I did an exturnship this week (to completely finish school). A co-worker asked me if I wanted some potato soup, I asked what was in it she said bacon. I apologized and said I do not want to offend you but I am kosher. She had no problem. Another co-worker a professing Christian spoke up and said �Oh you killed jesus�, I said remind me tomorrow to bring you in a white hood to go with your with robe (we had to wear white lab coats)�. I then laughed realizing she is a stupid, fool who does not know her own religion. I get amazed how many people do not event know their own religion� if Y-shua did not lay His own life down the crucifixion would have been worthless�. But to answer yes, the Jews sent Y-shua to the cross, the Romans sent Y-shua to the cross, and you and I sent Y-shua to the cross� SIN OF THE WORLD PAST, PRESENT, FUTURE, SENT Y-SHUA TO THE CROSS�.
As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep. Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father. John 10:15, 17-18
Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know: Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain: " Acts 2:22-23
For of a truth against thy holy child Jesus, whom thou hast anointed, both Herod, and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles, and the people of Israel, were gathered together, For to do whatsoever thy hand and thy counsel determined before to be done. Acts 4:27-28
For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Jud�a are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews: Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men: 1 Thess 2:14-15
Actually the Roman soldiers killed Jesus on a command from a Roman named Pilate who Jesus said had no power unless it was given to him from above. But of course the Jews bear some responsibility since they forced Pilate to kill Jesus.
But actually Jesus died for our sins because it was the will of God the Father:
Hebrews 10:4-7: "It is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins. Therefore, when Christ came into the world, He said: "Sacrifice and offering you did not desire, but a body you prepared for Me; with burnt offerings and sin offerings You were not pleased. Then I said, "Here I am--it is written about Me in the scroll--I have come to do Your will, O God."
Isaish 53:5,6: "But He was pierced for our transgressions, He was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon Him, and by His wounds we are healed. We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to his own way; and THE LORD HAS LAID on Him the iniquity of us all."
Jesus was 50% Jewish and is the Son of David. Salvation is of the Jews and God inspired 40 Jews to write all of His inspired Words in both the old and New Testament.
prophetic774 I love your math�. Lol do you know the Jews can�t figure out what do with people like me either�lol the Orthodox will say I am still a Jew even though I believe in Y-shua as Messiah because of the blood line through the mother. However, the reformed Jews say I am not a Jew not matter my heritage because I believe in Y-shua as Messiah�lol so even to my own people I stopped being a Jew, even though it�s a race and not a religion� and Y-shua is 100% a Jewish MAN and 100% G-d!!!!
Yes Jesus was 100% man and 100% God for 33 1/3 years. But since the Holy Spirit and not a Jewish man impregnated Mary then Jesus was probably 50% Jewish. I was a missionary in Israel and understand your Jewish problems. According to Jewish Law; if you have a Jewish mother then you are considered to be Jewish although some Orthodox Jews disagree if you are a follower of Yeshua HaMesheach.{Jesus the Messiah}
During the coming 1260-day Great Tribulation 2/3 of the approximately 14 million Jews will be killed and 1/3 or about 4.7 million will be saved. Some estimate about 20,000 Jews are truly saved at the present time.
Romans 11:25-29: "I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers, so that you may not be conceited. Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of Gentiles {See Rev 8:9-14} has come in. And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: "The Deliverer will come from Zion; He will turn godliness away from Jacob. And this is My Covenant with them when I take away their sins." As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies on your account; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the Patriarchs, for God's gifts and His call are irrevocable!!"
Zechariah 13:6-9: "In the whole land," declares the Lord, "Two thirds will be struck down and perish, yet one-third will be left in it. This third I will bring into the fire; I will refine them like silver and test them like gold. They will call on My Name and I will answer them; I will say, they are My people, and they will say, "The Lord is our God!'"
Ahhhh! I just love the smell of BAD eschatology on a Saturday evening. :winksmile: There is nothing better than still waiting for a 1260 day tribulation that happened nearly 2000 years ago, eh?
WHAT ARE THE 3 PASSAGES IN GOD'S WORD WHICH SHOW THAT THE GREAT TRIBULATION AND THE REIGN OF 666 WILL LAST EXACTLY 1260 DAYS OR 42 {30-DAY} MONTHS??
**{#1}** Daniel 12:1b,2,7b:� �There will be a time of distress {The Great Tribulation} such as not happened from the beginning of nations until then.� But at that time {The Last Day} your people--*EVERYONE* whose name is found written in the book {Both OT & NT Saints}�will be delivered.� Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt�It will be for a time. times and half a time {Which is also 1260 days as per Rev 12:6,14, or 42� {30-day} months as per Rev 13:5} *ALL* these things will be *COMPLETED.��
**{#2}**�Rev 13:5,7: The beast will be given a mouth to utter blasphemies and to exercise his authority for 42 {30-day} months {Not 7 years}�He will be given power to make war against the saints and to conquer them. COMPARE WITH:
**{#3}**Dan 7:25: �He will speak against the Most High and oppress His saints.� The saints will be handed over to him for time {12 months}, times {24 months} and 1/2 a time {6 months}. {Not 7 years}
Events in Revelation that will occur during the 1260-day Tribulation are discussed in Rev 6:1 to 18:24, Events that will occur on the Last Day are recorded in Rev 6:12-17; Rev 11:15-19; Rev 14:14-20; Rev 16:17-21; Rev 19:1-21 & Rev 20:9b-15.�There is absolutely no reference to any other resurrection before or during the Tribulation in Revelation chapters 6 through 19. The Olivet discourse by Jesus about the End-Times are recorded in Matt 24 & 25, Mark 13 and Luke 21.
� Events that will occur during the 1260-day Tribulation are recorded in Matt 24:9-28; Mark 13:5-23 and Luke 21:8-24. Events which will occur on the Last Day of the Tribulation including the 2nd Coming of Jesus are recorded in Matt 24:29-31; Matt 25:31-46; Mark 13:24-27, Luke 21:25-28 and 2 Peter 3:10-13. There is absolutely no mention of a rapture or resurrection before or during the Great Tribulation in the Olivet Discourse passages!! The glorious APPEARING of Jesus and the resurrection of His saints on the Last day of the Tribulation are mentioned in God's Word about 50 other times such as Titus 2:13: �WE wait for the blessed hope�the glorious APPEARING of our Great God and Savior, Jesus Christ,�
For example: If the coming of 666 and the 1260-day Great Tribulation starts on April 5th, 2014 then the 2nd coming of Jesus would occur exactly 1260 days later on Sepember 16th, 2017. When the 1260-day Great Tribulation begins God's saints will then know the exact day of the 2nd coming on the Last Day as per: Rev 3:3: Jesus says, �But {*IF*} you do not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what time I will come to you.� I Thess 5:4: Paul said �But YOU BROTHERS {*CHURCH SAINTS*}, are not in darkness so that {*THIS DAY*} should surprise you like a thief.�
�70 7'S OR 490 YEARS ARE DECREED TO ANOINT THE MOST HOLY, TO ATONE FOR WICKEDNESS AND TO BRING IN EVERLASTING RIGHTEOUSNESS!!�
Dan 9:24-27: �70 7�s {490 years} are decreed for your people TO ANOINT THE MOST HOLY, TO ATONE FOR WICKEDNESS and TO BRING IN EVERLASTING RIGHTEOUSNSS.. "Know and understand this: From the issuing of the decree {By Cyrus-Isa 44:28 above} to rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed One comes {Oct 23, AD 29?} there will be 7 plus 62 7's {Which is 69 7's or 483 years}. "After the 7 plus 62 7's {actually 1260 days after on April 3-5 AD 33} the Anointed One will be cut off but not for Himself..... He {The Anointed One} will confirm a COVENANT with many for one 'seven'. In the middle of the 'seven' {After 1260 days} He {The Anointed One; not 666} will put an END TO SACRIFICES {ATONE FOR WICKEDNESS}{And then after a long pause} the abomination of Desolation {666} will come {for the 1260 day Great Tribulation} until the decreed end is poured out on him.� on the Last day of the last 7 {See Rev 19:20} And so the first half of the last 7 was already COMPLETED when Jesus put and END to all sacrifices for sin 1260 days after His Anointing which occurred after 69 7's.
When the Anointed One came 69 7's or 483 years were 100% completed [See Dan 9:25 above} leaving just one 7 in the future; which will be totally used by those who wrongly believe in a future 7-year Tribulation; which means that the ATONEMENT FOR WICKEDNESS by Jesus about 3 1/2 years after His Anointing can not be included in the 70 7's Prophecy. However, God's Word clearly states that 70 7's are decreed ...TO ATONE FOR WICKEDNESS which occurred about 3 1/2 years after the end of the 69 7's and therefore the first half of the last 7 has already been completed since there are only 3 1/2 times left in the 70 7's. And so the Great Tribulation and the rule of 666 will last exactly 1260 days or 42 months or 3 1/2 times which agrees which God's Divine time periods found in Dan 12:1,2,7b; Dan 7:25 & Rev 13:5.
Now many saints believe the reign of 666 and the Great Tribulation are extremely close. I Peter 1:13: �Therefore, prepare your minds for ACTION, and set your hope *FULLY* on the grace to be given you when Jesus Christ is *REVEALED*!�
Mark 13:20: Jesus says, �If the Lord had not cut short those {Tribulation} days, no one would survive. But for the sake of the elect, whom He has chosen, He has shortened them.�The first 69 7's were 365-day years {7 years = 2557 days} but the Last 7 has been shortened to 360-day years and two 1260-day periods or 2520 days. And so God has shortened the last 7 of the 70 7's from 2557 days to two 1260-day periods or 2520 days. And God has shortened the Great Tribulation from 3 1/2 years or 1278 days to 3 1/2 times or 1260 days.
So back to the OP, we all contributed to Jesus' death. If it was not for our sin, the sins of the world, we would not be in need of the 'sacrificial Lamb' to cover the sins.
The crowd demanded Him to be found guilty...even though no fault was found in Him. The crowd cried out for His crucifixion (there were more than Jews in the crowd so don't just blame it on the Jews). Pilate washed his hands of it...although he ultimately ordered the death sentence. The soldiers who whipped Him, the priests that smote Him, the people who mocked Him, added to His pain and suffering.
In the end, He gave up His own life...just like He raised Himself from the dead. He is risen and sitting at the right hand of the Father.
But since the Holy Spirit and not a Jewish man impregnated Mary then Jesus was probably 50% Jewish.
That is SICK AND JUST NASTY AND WRONG!!!!!!
I�m sorry Y-shua was never created. G-d Himself went in all of His omnies� �wosh� into Mary�s womb� the Holy Spirit hovered over her. He DID NOT GET HER PREGNET!!!!!!!!!! Y-shua is not a demigod. He is 100% G-d who became 100% man. John 1:3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. Contains two direct statements that tell us that it was the preexistent Jesus who created all things. "All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made." Notice that John is not content to say only that all things were made through Him, but John adds the fact that "without Him nothing was made."
Paul confirms exactly what John wrote: "For by Him all things were created." Paul goes on to make sure that we understand what he means by all things�"that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him" (Colossians 1:16For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
All the false religions have men pregnant god there must be some truth to then too with this belief that Y-shua's dad is the holy spirit... Oh maybe you don't believe He is G-d too... !?! In the 3rd person for the lack of a better term....
�Oh you killed jesus�, I said remind me tomorrow to bring you in a white hood to go with your with robe (we had to wear white lab coats)�. I then laughed realizing she is a stupid, fool who does not know her own religion. I get amazed how many people do not event know their own religion� if Y-shua did not lay His own life down the crucifixion would have been worthless�. But to answer yes, the Jews sent Y-shua to the cross, the Romans sent Y-shua to the cross, and you and I sent Y-shua to the cross� SIN OF THE WORLD PAST, PRESENT, FUTURE, SENT Y-SHUA TO THE CROSS�.