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Can non-christians also go to heaven?
Posted : 13 Jan, 2014 01:12 PM

Jesus said for example in John 14:6 that he is the only way to heaven.

But can atheist, agnostics, jewish, buddhists, muslims, also get salvation through the mercy of God ?



What do you think?

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Can non-christians also go to heaven?
Posted : 13 Jan, 2014 03:59 PM

Hi Viktor:



Salvation is by Grace through faithing into Messiah Yeshua.

A person is not saved because they have right doctrine,nor is a person saved because the obey the Ten Commandments.

A person is not saved by repenting of sin,or by saying any kind of prayer(s).

A person is not saved by signing a card,or by going forth to an altar call.

A person is not saved by giving money,lighting candles,confessing sin,or by praying to dead people (so called saints).



A person is not saved by doing any good works or good deeds.

A persons good deeds will never outweigh their sinful deeds.

A person cannot ride the coattails of their relatives into being saved from the wrath of GOD Almighty.

A person cannot be saved attending so called church meetings ( so called worship services,bible studies,home groups,etc).

A person is not saved by loving others.



The list could go on; ONLY by FAITHING into Messiah Yeshua will a person be saved from the Wrath of GOD Almighty.



After Faithing into Yehsua,can a person still continue with the beliefs they had been involved with before,

I believe the Holy Spirit will show that NO person can serve two masters,and the ONLY master that will save them from the Wrath of GOD Almighty is Messiah Yeshua.

Not Muhammad;for Muhammad is dead.

Not Buddha,Buddha is dead.

Not Krishna;for Krishna is dead.

Not any RELIGION,Faith or any system of belief can save a person from the Wrath of GOD Almighty.

Not even the RAPTURE can save a person from the wrath of GOD Almighty.

ONLY Messiah Yeshua can save a person from the Wrath of GOD Almighty.



Messiah Yeshua is the ONLY person which LOVES man to carry the sins of the Whole of mankind to Calvary to have their sins judged,and to bear the judgement of GOD Almighty for mankind.

Messiah was beaten beyond recognition.

tO HAVE His beard pulled out.

Be whipped with the cat-o-nine tails 39 lashes.

Be spit upon,

Having a bag over His face then being punched in the face.

Having a crown of thorns ( probably 3-5 inches long) pushed down upon His head.

Walk with the instrument of His death the cross.

Having 3 ( probably 10in. spikes driven into his hands and feet).

Having the cross raised and then dropped into a hole.

Being mocked

Being thirsty and not having anything to quench His thirst.

With the last breathes Messiah,He intercedes asking ABBA to FORGIVE us as we do not know what we do.

He than gives up His life,only to have a spear thrust through His side and blood and water poured forth.



Yeshua had done this without raising His voice to protest His innocence,ALL according to the PROPHETIC WORD of YHWH / GOD Almighty.









Do you think Muhammad,Buddha,Krishna,Alah,or any of the so called gods of the people would EVER have done for you and me what Messiah Yeshua had done, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And Messiah did not ask for anything to be done in return for this.

That is ABSOLUTELY TRUE LOVE and TRUE GRACE towards SINFUL mankind.



Nope as the others do not,and cannot LOVE man as Messiah Yeshua does.

(LITV) And Satan answered Jehovah and said, Skin for skin. Yea, all that a man has he will give for his life.

Messiah Yehsua created and owns all He has created yet He gave the ONLY thing which would satisfy the wrath,judgement and passion of GOD Almighty against man,that was His life.

Heb 10:4 for it is impossible for blood of bulls and goats to take away sins.

Heb 10:5 Wherefore, coming into the world, he saith, `Sacrifice and offering Thou didst not will, and a body Thou didst prepare for me,

Heb 10:6 in burnt-offerings, and concerning sin-offerings, Thou didst not delight,



Heb 10:7 then I said, Lo, I come, (in a volume of the book it hath been written concerning me,) to do, O God, Thy will;'

Heb 10:8 saying above--`Sacrifice, and offering, and burnt-offerings, and concerning sin-offering Thou didst not will, nor delight in,' --which according to the law are offered--

Heb 10:9 then he said, `Lo, I come to do, O God, Thy will;' he doth take away the first that the second he may establish;

Heb 10:10 in the which will we are having been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once,







Shalom

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Can non-christians also go to heaven?
Posted : 13 Jan, 2014 05:47 PM

First of all, Joh 14:6 "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." has nothing to do with going to Heaven. There is actually no teaching in the New Testament that states that anyone will go to heaven. Even the rapture theorists believe we will be taken to heaven at the rapture but that is not what the Bible really says. So I think I would say no, non-Christians won't go to heaven and neither will Christians.

This verse is about seeing the Father. If you take it in context this is part of a teaching by Jesus in which He is telling His disciples that He is the nature and character of God. If we have seen Him we have seen the Father. If we want to "come to the Father" we simply have to come to Jesus and we will see and know the Father. There is nothing in this verse about going to heaven.

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Posted : 13 Jan, 2014 05:57 PM

Secondly, we are not the judges of who will see the Father. There is so much more to spirituality and the workings of God in the universe than can be found in the Bible. Maybe those who do not believe in Jesus will not see the Father but you never know when they will. Can you be certain of who the people are that have not put their faith in God or Jesus? I don't think so. But it makes sense that no one will see the Father unless they believe in Jesus because only He is the reflection of the Father. Only He had the Spirit of Christ, only He was the nature of God in the flesh.

You are believing the teachings of the Church of the Usual Assumptions. Maybe you need to take a closer look at what the Bible is really saying rather than following the teachings of those who misunderstand it.

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Can non-christians also go to heaven?
Posted : 13 Jan, 2014 08:45 PM

Joh 14:6 "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

The lamb is the judge. Whether you lived/died before or after the resurrection, ALL will be judged by the lamb of God. He will determine if you are in his book of life or not.

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Posted : 13 Jan, 2014 09:20 PM

John 1:11,12: To all who received Him {Jesus}, to those who believed in His name , He gave the right to become children of God--children born not of natural descent, not of human decision or a husband's will, but BORN OF GOD!



John 12:48: Jesus says, "There is a Judge for the one who rejects Me and does not accept My words; that very word which I spoke will condemn him at the Last Day!"



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Can non-christians also go to heaven?
Posted : 14 Jan, 2014 05:39 PM

@dmaxwel1, There is no way that this verse is about going to heaven. Furthermore your comment has nothing to do with going to heaven. What is your answer to the OP?

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Can non-christians also go to heaven?
Posted : 21 Jan, 2014 01:27 PM

No heaven? Does that mean no resurrection? Wouldn't that make us the most miserable of all men?



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Can non-christians also go to heaven?
Posted : 10 Feb, 2014 10:49 AM

There is an Old Testament verse that mentions those that never heard about the Bible or YHWH but they did good and are saved. So yes, its possible for a non-Christian to be saved, only if they lived in ignorance. If they willfully reject the Messiah then they are doomed to hell.

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Posted : 10 Feb, 2014 10:50 AM

There is an Old Testament verse that mentions those that never heard about the Bible or YHWH but they did good and are saved. So yes, its possible for a non-Christian to be saved, only if they lived in ignorance. If they willfully reject the Messiah then they are doomed to hell.

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