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Are men proxies for Abba and Sahtahn to dwell in and battle in?
Posted : 20 Jan, 2014 01:03 PM
There is only one covenant. There are not two, contrary to what you may have heard, from men (and women).
The covenant with Abraham, regards those men and women who were chosen before time, in which the Father would dwell and reign, who would be recipients of mercy on Judgment Day:
"Come ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world." Matthew 25:34
Everyone who was chosen before time, whether then, or now, are under the Abrahamic covenant, for it was never done away with. Paul tells us in Galatians 3 that the rights of an heir are not predicated upon being a Jew, a Greek, a slave, a freeman, a male or female; it is predicated on the covenant with Abraham and his seed, or "'according to the promise":
"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. 29And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise." Gal 3:28-29
What promise is Paul referring to? Genesis 17:7:
"And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee."
What does Abba mean by "and thy seed after thee in their generations"..?
There are to be 1,000 generations of the Seed of Abraham, and all are under the same covenant:
"He hath remembered his covenant for ever, the word which he commanded to a thousand generations." Psalms 105:8
This is why Peter wrote, "You are a chosen generation":
"But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:" I Peter 2:9
Both Judaism and Christianity, are seriously flawed when it comes to doctrine. Both claim that Messiah, in some way, changed the Torah, but that is not possible, because the Messiah, whether you call Him Jesus or Yahushua, did not have a doctrine with which to destroy the law or the prophets, nor to start another religion called "Christianity", with. Here we see where the Messiah states that He has no doctrine of His own:
"Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me." John 7:16
Jesus did not come to do away with the Torah, for the Torah is simply the Father dwelling in men, teaching and instructing them. That is what "towrah" means, "instruction".
Here we see the Father, when Philip asks Jesus, to show him the Father, speaking out of Jesus to Philip:
"Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. 9Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? 10Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works." John 14:8-10
Notice that the Father says to Philip, "Have I been so long with you, Philip, and yet you do not know me?" The Father was not only in Messiah, He was dwelling in Philip, too. This is why Jesus would say, "he that hath seen me, hath seen the Father". In fact, if you will read verse 10, Jesus tells Philip, that it was not Him Who was talking to him, but the Father: "the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works".
Whenever you see a man or woman, you see one of two spiritual entities, dwelling in them, Yahaweh or Sahtahn (the Devil). All men and women, are proxies for Sahtahn and Yahaweh. This is why it is written, "you wrestle not with flesh and blood". Each man, and woman, is a vessel or either wrath or mercy, from the womb. You have no say over how you are to be used, it is up to the potter (Romans 9):
"The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies." Psalms 58:3
"I was cast upon thee from the womb: thou art my God from my mother's belly." Psalms 22:10
This began in the Garden with Adam, and Cain and Abel. Then we see it again, with Abraham, who has two sons, one dark and one light. Then it is repeated, with Isaac having two sons (darkness and light) who actually fought in Rebekah's womb. Esau was Sahtahn's seed, Jacob was Yahaweh's. Esau struggled and was able to slip out of the womb first, but you see Jacob holding on to his heel. Esau would prove that he was Sahtahn's Seed, when he sold the birthright, back to Jacob.
This is all connected to the Two Trees in the Garden. The Tree of Life, concerns those who were chosen before time, those of the Seed of Abraham. The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, concerns those who are Sahtahn's Seed, which are to be left in their fallen condition, to be used as vessels of wrath. They are darkness as a result of the Fall. This is how Sahtahn got his seed, to war with Abba's seed:
"For he said, Because the LORD hath sworn that the LORD will have war with Amalek from generation to generation." Exodus 17:16 (Moses, when the Father dwelled in him, in his generation.)
Abba planned the whole of time, to glorify Himself. Abba's Seed are called out of the darkness, into the light. Thus the two trees are demonstrative of the Two Seeds/natures in men (and women). This is why Messiah is regarded as having taught about the two trees, with two different fruits. One tree bears BAD fruit, and one tree bears GOOD fruit. The trees that do not bear GOOD fruit are to be destroyed:
"Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them." Matthew 7:17-20
Now, you can see why Jesus told the Jews, who were Sahtahn's Seed in His generation, "You are of your father, the Devil!"
The chosen vessels, are men in which the Father dwells and reigns in. The rejected vessels of wrath, are men given to Sahtahn, for him to use, and Abba destroys them.
"What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid. 15For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. 16So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy. 17For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth. 18Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth." Romans 9:14-18
All men and woman are created as proxies, which means:
"one who is authorized to act as the deputy or substitute for another. 2. the person so authorized; substitute; agent."
Are men proxies for Abba and Sahtahn to dwell in and battle in?
Posted : 20 Jan, 2014 10:26 PM
WHAT IS THE NT GOSPEL??
Colossians 1:4-6: We have heard of your faith in Christ Jesus and the love you have for all the saints--the faith and love that spring from the hope that is stored up for you in heaven and that you have already heard about in the Word of Truth, the **GOSPEL** that has come to you!
Ephesians 3:17-19: "I pray that you, being rooted and established in **LOVE** may have power, together with all the saints, to grasp how wide and long and high and deep is the **LOVE** of Christ, and to know this **LOVE** that surpasses knowledge--that you may be filled to the measure of all the fullness of God!"
John 15:9,10" Jesus says, "As the Father **LOVED** Me, so I have **LOVED** you!! Now remain in My **LOVE**. **IF YOU OBEY MY COMMANDS**, you will remain in My **LOVE**, just as I have obeyed my Father's commands and remain in His **LOVE**!"
John 14:21,23: Jesus says, "Whoever has My commands and obeys them, he is the one who **LOVES** Me! He who loves Me will be **LOVED** by My Father, and I will **LOVE** him....If anyone **LOVES** Me, he will obey My teaching. My Father will **LOVE** him, and we will come to him and make Our home with him!!"
Acts 17:11: Now the Bereans were of more noble character than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and EXAMINED the SCRIPTURES *EVERY DAY*!! James 1:22,25: Do not merely listen to the Word, and so deceive yourselves. **DO WHAT IT SAYS!!
Matthew 28:19,20: Jesus commands, "Make disciples of *ALL NATIONS*...teaching them to **OBEY EVERYTHING** I have commanded you."
I John 2:3-5: We know we have come to know Him {Jesus} **IF WE OBEY HIS COMMANDS**. The man who says, "I know Him," but does not do what He commands is a liar and the truth is not in him. But **IF** anyone obeys His Word, God's love is truly made complete in him.
THE GREAT COMMISSION: Matthew 28:18-20: Jesus says, �All authority in heaven and on *EARTH has been given to Me. Therefore go and make disciples of *ALL NATIONS*...teaching them to **OBEY EVERYTHING** I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very *END OF THE AGE*!�
Ephesians 4:11-16: It was He {Jesus} who gives some to be prophets, some to be evangelists, and some to be pastors and teachers, to prepare God's people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up until we all reach unity in the faith and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ.... Speaking the Truth in **LOVE**, we will in all things grow up into Him, who is the Head, that is Christ. From Him the whole body, joined and held together by every supporting ligament grows and builds itself up in **LOVE**, as each part does its work!
2 Timothy 3:16; 4:2: All Scripture is God breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God my be thoroughly equipped for every good work...**PREACH THE WORD**; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction.
Acts 17:11: Now the Bereans were of more noble character than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and EXAMINED the SCRIPTURES *EVERY DAY*!!
James 1:22: Do not merely listen to the Word, and so deceive yourselves. **DO WHAT IT SAYS*...But the man who looks intently into the perfect law that gives freedom, and continues to do this, not forgetting what he has heard, *BUT DOING IT*--he will be blessed in what he does!!
READ GOD'S WORD DAILY AND THEN DO WHAT IT SAYS!!
Psalm 119 has 176 verses praising the Word of God. The Old Testament had 613 laws and the New Covenant of Jesus and His love has about 400 commands of LOVE which Psalm 119 also applies to. Some of my favorite verses is Psalm 119 are:
119:105: Your Word is a Lamp to my feet and a Light for my path.
119:97: Oh how I love your law, I meditate on it all day long.
119:148: My eyes stay open through the watches of the night, that I meditate on your promises.
119:164: Seven times a day I praise you for your righteous laws.
119:169: Give me understanding according to your Word.
119:2: Blessed are those who keep His statues and seek Him with all your heart.
119:11: I have hidden your Word in my heart that I might not sin against You.
Deuteronomy 4:2: God says, "Do not *ADD* to what I command you and do not *SUBTRACT* from it, but keep the commands of the Lord your God that I give you!!"
Deut 18:17-19: The Lord says, "I will raise up for them a Prophet like you from among their brothers; I will put My words in His mouth, and He will tell them everything I command Him. If anyone does not listen to My words that the Prophet speaks in My Name, I Myself will call Him to account."
John 14:23,24: Jesus says, "If anyone *LOVES* Me, He will obey My teaching. My Father will *LOVE* Him, and we will come to him and make Our home with him. He who does not love Me will not obey My teaching."
Revelation 22:16,18,19: "I, Jesus. have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the Churches.... I warn everyone who hears the words of this prophecy of this Book: If anyone *ADDS* anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this Book {Including **ETERNAL HELL**} And if anyone **TAKES WORDS AWAY** from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The New Jerusalem}, which are described in this book."
I Peter 1:23-25: You have been born again.. through the Living and Enduring Word of God. All men are like grass, and all their glory is like the flowers of the field, the grass withers and the flowers fall, but the **WORD OF THE LORD STANDS FOREVER**. And this is the Word that was preached to you.
Are men proxies for Abba and Sahtahn to dwell in and battle in?
Posted : 20 Jan, 2014 10:27 PM
Sure it is Biblical to have communion in remembrance of the sacrifice of Jesus ONCE FOR All instead of the Satanic Roman Catholic doctrine to have Jesus die for our sins every day in the mass or MESS where pedophile Roman Catholic priests have the satanic ability to change wine into the actual blood of Jesus which they drink??? This is a great doctrine for cannibals and vampires.
Acts 21:25: Paul said, "As for the Gentile believers, we have written to them our decision that they should ABSTAIN from food sacrificed to idols and from **BLOOD**!!"
Hebrews 7:27: Unlike the other high priests, He {Jesus} does not need to offer sacrifices day after day, first for His own sins and then for the sins of the people. HE SACRIFICED FOR THEIR SINS *ONCE FOR ALL* WHEN HE OFFERED HIMSELF!!
Hebrews 9:15,26b-28: Christ is the mediator of a NEW COVENANT so that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance--now that He has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant...But now He has APPEARED ONCE FOR ALL at the end of the ages to do away with sin by the **SACRIFICE** of Himself... so Christ was **SACRIFICED ONCE** TO TAKE AWAY THE SINS OF MANY PEOPLE, and He will *APPEAR* a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for Him.
Hebrews 10:10: �We have been made holy through the **SACRIFICE** of the body of Jesus **ONCE FOR ALL**!!�
Hebrews 9:15,26b-28: Christ is the mediator of a NEW COVENANT so that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance--now that He has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant...But now He has APPEARED ONCE FOR ALL at the end of the ages to do away with sin by the **SACRIFICE** of Himself... so Christ was **SACRIFICED ONCE** TO TAKE AWAY THE SINS OF MANY PEOPLE, and He will *APPEAR* a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for Him.
Hebrews 10:10: �We have been made holy through the **SACRIFICE** of the body of Jesus **ONCE FOR ALL**!!�
Hebrews 10:11,12,14,17,18: Day after day every priest stands and performs his religious duties; again and again he offers the same sacrifices, which can **NEVER** take away sins! But when this **PRIEST** {Jesus} had offered *ONE SACRIFICE* for sins, He sat down at the right hand of God...By *ONE SACRICE* He has made perfect forever those who are being made holy...God says, "Their sins and lawless acts I will remember no more." And where these have been forgiven, THERE IS NO LONGER ANY *SACRIFICE* FOR SINS !!
Isaiah 53:5,6: He was pierced for our transgressions, He was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon Him, and by His wounds we are healed. We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to his own way; and the Lord has laid on Him the iniquity of us all!!{Including Mary}
Are men proxies for Abba and Sahtahn to dwell in and battle in?
Posted : 21 Jan, 2014 01:26 PM
There are two covenants, and old and new. There was nothing imperfect about the first covenant, only imperfect humans. I believe the first covenant was God's design to show men that we cannot make ourselves clean. The second covenant was to change us and make us clean through God's power alone. Those under the "old covenant" still entered into the "new covenant" by faith, so essentially, they are the same covenant, only with different mechanics.
Are men proxies for Abba and Sahtahn to dwell in and battle in?
Posted : 21 Jan, 2014 02:04 PM
The difference between the Old Covenant and the New Covenant are many.
The Old Covenant
Here are only a few Scripture concerning the difference between the TWO COVENANTS.
The people looked forward to the promise of YHWH to send the Messiah / Redeemer.
Under the Old Covenant animal sacrifices were used,not to REMOVE sin,but just to cover the sin.
The Holy Spirit did not reside with the believers,He Temporarily rested upon them.
With each time a person sinned a sacrifice was required.
The Old Covenant was temporary,and would pass away.
Man could not be made Righteous under the Old Covenant.
Heb 10:1 For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.
Heb 10:2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.
Heb 10:3 But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.
Heb 10:4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.
Heb 10:5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:
Heb 10:6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.
Heb 10:7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.
Heb 10:8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;
Heb 10:9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.
Heb 10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
Heb 10:11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins:
Heb 10:12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
Heb 10:13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.
Heb 10:14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
Heb 10:15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,
Heb 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
Heb 10:17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
Heb 10:18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.
The New Covenant
People do not need to look forward to the Messiah coming,He arrived, departed and will return.
Man does not need to offer ANY sacrifices to have their sin forgiven and sent away, Messiah Yeshua gave His life the ONLY sacrifice to be forgiven and have ones sins sent away.
The Holy Spirit abides with believers FOREVER.
The NEW COVENANT replaces the Old Covenant as the Old Covenant was incomplete until Messiah had come and FILLED that which that was lacking in the Old Covenant.
Messiah makes man righteous by Grace through Faith.
Only a short overview of the difference between the two covenants.
Please everyone,contribute the Word you know which pertains to this subject.
