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The Mystery of Sanctification
Posted : 9 Feb, 2014 02:20 PM

The Mystery of Sanctification

by William S. Plumer



"And we all, with unveiled face, beholding the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from one degree of glory to another. For this comes from the Spirit of the Lord." (2 Corinthians 3:18)

There is a great mystery in sanctification. It is a mystery for the love it displays, for the power it manifests, for the method it employs, and for the work it accomplishes. When Moses looked upon that bright effulgence in the mount, he gradually caught some of the same glory, so that his face shone. When we behold the image of the invisible God, as it is presented in the person and character of Christ, we too are made like it, not indeed by a mere natural effect, but "by the Spirit of the Lord." Likeness to God alone is holiness. Growth in this likeness is growth in grace. It is all by Jesus Christ.

It is true that "the best of men are men at the best," and so are far from being as perfect as their Father in heaven is perfect. There is no man that sins not. "Yes, there is not a just man upon earth, that does good, and sins not." But the godly man is not a willing captive of sin, whereas the unrenewed man rejoices in iniquity. The child of God is becoming more and more like God. The wicked wax worse and worse. The saint longs for God's salvation. The sinner cannot sleep--unless he has done some mischief.

The heart of a believer is the best part about him. If he could have things as he would, he never would sin any more. The life of an unconverted man is commonly not nearly so bad as his heart. He is restrained in many ways from acting out the worst that is in him. The holy man blushes at a sinful thought. The wicked man loves to have vain thoughts lodge within him. It is the business of a godly man's life to please God and perfect holiness. It is the business of a sinner's life to please himself and commit sin. The work of purifying the heart shall be finished in due time, and all the godly shall be satisfied, when they awake, with the likeness of God, fully drawn upon their souls.

If we are called to be saints, we are not called to serve any but the Lord Christ. Holiness may be out of fashion here on earth, but not in heaven. It is infinitely better to be "a peculiar people, zealous of good works," than "a people, laden with iniquity." When a prince was about to travel, he asked his tutor for some maxims, by which to govern his behavior, and received this: "Remember that you are the son of a king." Let all Christians remember that they are the sons and daughters of the Lord Almighty," and "if sons, then heirs, heirs of God, and joint heirs with Jesus Christ." With what force and point the exhortation comes to such gospel. Truth never generates licentiousness. Actual participation in Christ's righteousness is always manifested by the possession of his image and temper.

It is sad proof of a wicked heart when a professor of Christ's gospel attempts to live as near as possible to the line separating sin from holiness. Let him eschew and abhor evil. Excess in many things is easy, but no man fears or hates sin too much. So far as we know, sin is the only thing which God hates. There are many filthy reptiles, unclean beasts and venomous serpents from which we instinctively turn away; yet God's tender mercies are over all of these. He opens his hand and supplies the needs of every living thing. To the end which he proposed in their creation, they are well adapted. But sin is in its own nature and tendency, only evil. God abhors it. It dishonors him, it grieves him, it vexes him. It is the only thing which dishonors or offends him. He is angry with the wicked every day. When one of Christ's people sins, it is wounding our Savior "in the house of his friends."

An alleged work of grace on the heart, which gives no outward signs and leaves the life wicked, is good for nothing. True holiness is not dormant but active, not merely a negation of evil, but the positiveness of good. For a while, Joseph and Nicodemus may be timid, but when the great question is raised by the crucifixion, we find them open and bold disciples. The fruit of a holy nature--is a holy life.

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Posted : 11 Feb, 2014 04:02 AM

"When Moses looked upon that bright effulgence in the mount, he gradually caught some of the same glory, so that his face shone."...?



No offense, but there is nothing written in the scripture which indicates in any way that "Moses caught some of the same glory, so that his face shone..".



This man does not know what he is talking about. It is easy to see that he has not been taught by the Father, but is an imposter, twisting the Torah, trying to turn it into a coin.



Moses, when he came off that mount, had the Father in him, and that was the source of his anointing and the knowledge which was used in writing the Torah.



In fact, the very word "Towrah" means "the Instruction of the Father". This same instruction was to be manifested by the Father as He taught son after sons, from generation to generation. Here we see the Father telling Joshua, "As I was with Moses, so I will be with you, I will never leave you nor forsake you":



"There shall not any man be able to stand before thee all the days of thy life: as I was with Moses, so I will be with thee: I will not fail thee, nor forsake thee." Joshua 1:5



We see the Water Baptism in Moses, when the Father took him from his mother's womb and protected him as a babe from Sahtahn's seed in Pharaoh, and the Father never left Moses all of his days (See Isaiah 46:3-4).



It is garbage for a son of beliyaal to act as though he comprehends the power and purpose of the Torah of Yahaweh. This man makes it appear that Moses got a little bit of glory and then the Father left him. Moses did not get any glory, period, this man is a liar. The glory which was manifest through Moses, was the Father reigning in him, in Moses' generation, as He battled with the Devil from generation to generation:



"For he said, Because the LORD hath sworn that the LORD will have war with Amalek from generation to generation." Exodus 17:16 (Amalek is a term for the Seed of Sahtahn, which began in Cain):



"Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous." I John 3:12



Moses was merely a vessel in which the Father dwelt. Here we see other of the prophets, all stating that the Father reigned and reigns from generation to generation, and that there are to be 1,000 generations:



"Thou, O LORD, remainest for ever; thy throne from generation to generation." Lamentation 5:19 (Jeremiah)



"And he hath cast the lot for them, and his hand hath divided it unto them by line: they shall possess it for ever, from generation to generation shall they dwell therein." Isaiah 34:17



"How great are his signs! and how mighty are his wonders! his kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and his dominion is from generation to generation." Daniel 4:3 (Daniel)



"One generation shall praise Your works to another, And shall declare Your mighty acts." Psalm 145:4



"His mercy is from generation to generation on those who fear Him." Luke 1:50



"But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:" I Peter 2:9



NOTE: There are to be 1,000 generations that the Father is to dwell in:



"He hath remembered his covenant for ever, the word which he commanded to a thousand generations." Psalms 105:8



In closing, did not Messiah state that "no man can come unto me, except that he would be drawn by the Father", and that all that are drawn, are to be "taught of God (the Father)"...?



"No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. 45It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me." John 6:44-45



This man, which is quoted, is clearly a liar and a deceiver, who uses the Torah to generate capital.

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Posted : 11 Feb, 2014 06:13 AM

"When Moses looked upon that bright effulgence in the mount, he gradually caught some of the same glory, so that his face shone."...?



No offense, but there is nothing written in the scripture which indicates in any way that "Moses caught some of the same glory, so that his face shone..".



*** Exd 34:29 And it came to pass, when Moses came down from mount Sinai with the two tables of testimony in Moses' hand, when he came down from the mount, that Moses wist not that the skin of his face shone while he talked with him.



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Posted : 11 Feb, 2014 06:10 PM

"And it came to pass, when Moses came down from mount Sinai with the two tables of testimony in Moses' hand, when he came down from the mount, that Moses wist not that the skin of his face shone while he talked with him." Exodus 34:29





This verse merely states that Moses was unaware that his face was manifesting the Shekinah glory..



Paul did not learn of that the Father had taken him from his mother's womb, and had been dwelling in him, until he was walking down the Road to Damascus:



"But when it pleased God who separated me from my mother's womb and called me by His grace, to reveal His son in me, I immediately conferred not with flesh and blood." Galatians 1:15-16



Philip did not learn of the Father dwelling in him, until he asked the Messiah to see the Father, and the Father spoke out of the Messiah, and chided him for not comprehending that He had been dwelling in him all along:



"Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. 9Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? 10Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works." John 14:8-10



The Father was dwelling in Philip, though Phillip did not comprehend it, either...



Philip did not know that it was not Jesus Who was actually teaching, but the Father, until Jesus told Philip that it was the Father speaking out of Him (Prophecy):



"..the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works."



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Posted : 11 Feb, 2014 06:26 PM

Ummm...since when does a scripture / verse just "merely" say anything ???...Lord have mercy...Shekinah Glory ??? if you wana explain it away have at it...Im sticking to the WORD not merely the word...:laugh:...



Objection is made that the word "Shekinah," (), is not found in the scripture in its noun form and that it describes a concept that is not scriptural.



Shekinah, Shechinah, Shechina, or Schechinah (Hebrew: ������), is the English spelling of a grammatically feminine Hebrew name of God in Judaism. The original word means the dwelling or settling, and denotes the dwelling or settling of the Divine Presence of God, especially in the Temple in Jerusalem.



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Posted : 13 Feb, 2014 09:55 AM

30 And when Aaron and all the children of Israel saw Moses, behold, the skin of his face shone; and they were afraid to come nigh him.



Also, apparently the "shining face" was only temporary, and I don't think that the presence of God in Moses was only temporary. The shining face was a direct result of being in the presence of God. It's actually very interesting, science is now discovering that Humans actually emit low levels of light due to biological processes, perhaps that is a function our bodies used to have before the fall when they were at full potential, and being in the presence of God actually restored that function temporarily?





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