Thread: God loves some men and He hates some, for a good reason..
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God loves some men and He hates some, for a good reason..
Posted : 12 Feb, 2014 03:44 AM
"As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated." Romans 9:13
Did you know that it is not possible for God to love all men, and that this is not written in the scripture? In fact, did you know that the very word "HOLY" in the original Hebrew is the word "qodesh" and that it means "one to be set apart", or "one that is being sanctified or to be sanctified"..? To be sanctified means "to be divided", as in "and He shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats":
"When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: 32And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: 33And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. 34Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:" Matthew 25:31-34
Only those chosen by the Father, before the foundation of the world, for Him to dwell in, and to which this is revealed in time, will be saved on Judgment Day... "Come ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world."
There are two peoples in this world, and one belongs to God and one to the Devil. This is "the wheat and the tares." The wheat are those men who bear the fruit of the Spirit of the Father, and the tares are those men who bear the fruit of the spirit of darkness:
"Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. 13Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual." I Cor 2:12-13
One man is born to learn wisdom and one man is born to be a fool. You would not be able to "comprehend" the wise man (light), if it were not for the fool (darkness). These two men are also known by the designation of "trees". One tree or man is associated with the "Tree of Life" and one is associated with the "Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil". This is why you see the scriptural references to men as trees, and "Cain and Abel" being born to Adam and Eve. Adam was a man in which the Father dwelt. As Abba created MAN ("Adam" in the Hebrew) out of the dust of the ground, so Adam was to demonstrate that type in him, when he created darkness (Cain) and light (Abel) through Eve, in his generation. This is why we see Adam being recognized as a "Son of God" in Luke 3:38, and this is also the reason why we see the Messiah being called both the Son of Adam, or the Son of Man, and the Son of God, in the scripture. If a man is not able to connect these two genealogies, in Matthew 1 and in Luke 3 together, and explain the Messiah after the flesh, and the Messiah after the Spirit, he does not know true wisdom, which is "wisdom by comprehension of the Spiritual and Physical". This can only be taught by the Father, as He is dwelling in that man. This is the basis of the doctrine of Patriarchy, or the War of the Sons of Darkness (the natural man) and the Sons of Light (the regenerated man):
"It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me." John 6:45
All of the men of the "Tree of Life" are capable, by the grace of the indwelling Spirit (Ruach) of the Father, to comprehend the sanctifying wisdom of the scripture. The scripture was written only by men in which the Holy Spirit dwelt, and only those who are enabled to, by the same Spirit which dwells in them, can comprehend it. Those who are of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, run around pretending to be able to "comprehend" the scripture, but they are not truly able to, because it requires the indwelling presence of the Father, and He is not their Father. Those men have to be taught by their Father. This is why Jesus (the Anointed One, or Mashiach) said to the Jews, who were the Devil's Seed in His generation, "you are of your father the Devil and the works of your father you will do". There are two Fathers, the Holy and Unholy. This is why you see Cain being born first, for Cain was of the Darkness or SaTaN (sahtahn). Then you see Abel born, who was of the Light. The darkness must always precede the light, because the light is incomprehensible apart from the darkness as a contrasting mechanism:
"And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. 3And God said, Let there be light: and there was light." Genesis 1:2-3
This is why we see Ishmael being born to Abraham first, in his generation, and then Isaac. Abraham was a man in which the Father dwelt, which is why we see Abraham creating darkness and light. Then we see this again repeated in Isaac's generation, when Rebekah gave birth to Esau and Jacob. You may recall them fighting or struggling in her womb. Esau was born first, because he was able to slip by Jacob, who was holding onto his heel. Later we see Esau prove that he is not truly wise, or "anointed", when he sells the birthright to Jacob, as it was rightfully his.
This is why we see the scripture referring to the Two Seeds in Matthew 7:17-20. Those trees, or men, in which the Father dwells are known as "the good tree", and those in which the Devil dwells are known as "the bad tree":
"Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them." Matthew 7:17-20
God loves some men and He hates some, for a good reason..
Posted : 13 Feb, 2014 06:13 AM
Did you know that it is not possible for God to love all men, and that this is not written in the scripture?
*** Is that True ???
Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
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2 PETER 3:9 � �9The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness: but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.�
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1Jo 4:16 And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.
Hbr 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
*** No disrespect to your person...The word of man is just that..the word of man�and his carnal mind is at enmity with GOD...
Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
God loves some men and He hates some, for a good reason..
Posted : 13 Feb, 2014 09:41 AM
Romans 5
6For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. 7For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die. 8But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. 9Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. 10For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. 11And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement.
Luke 15
I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.
Ezekiel 33
11 Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?
12 Therefore, thou son of man, say unto the children of thy people, The righteousness of the righteous shall not deliver him in the day of his transgression: as for the wickedness of the wicked, he shall not fall thereby in the day that he turneth from his wickedness; neither shall the righteous be able to live for his righteousness in the day that he sinneth.
13 When I shall say to the righteous, that he shall surely live; if he trust to his own righteousness, and commit iniquity, all his righteousnesses shall not be remembered; but for his iniquity that he hath committed, he shall die for it.
14 Again, when I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; if he turn from his sin, and do that which is lawful and right;
15 If the wicked restore the pledge, give again that he had robbed, walk in the statutes of life, without committing iniquity; he shall surely live, he shall not die.
16 None of his sins that he hath committed shall be mentioned unto him: he hath done that which is lawful and right; he shall surely live.
Christ died for His enemies, to bring them into the fold as His sheep, to change them from flesh to spirit, to make them children of the promise. Dead in sin, but born again in His life. The beauty and hope of the gospel is that we can change, and God wants us to change. All of us. From the evil King Manasseh to Peter the Apostle.
Ephesians 5:8
for at one time you were darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Walk as children of light.
