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The Theosis of Men: There is no such thing as "the Doctrine of the Trinity".
Posted : 3 Mar, 2014 08:24 AM

Where do men get it that there is a doctrine (form of teaching or instruction) which refers to "the Trinity"...?



There is no such thing: there never has been and there never will be. It is a total falsehood to state something which is not in the scripture.



We, who are true believers, Israel Ruchani, are commanded not to add or take away anything which is written in the Word of God:



"Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it. that ye may keep the commandments of YHWH your Elohim which I have commanded you." Deut 4:2



"For I testify unto every men that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man add unto these things God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book." Rev 22:18-19



The "HOLY SPIRIT", for those of you who have heard this garbage preaching and teaching of men all of your lives, is "the Spirit of the Father which was dwelling in Jesus, and has dwelled in His seed, His vessels since the Garden".



The Father dwells in one man and the Devil (STN) dwells in another. This is best known as the Doctrine of Theosis, where men become representative proxies for God (Elohim) and His contrasting mechanism Sahtahn, and the woman become the bewildered creature who is trying to find her God, her husband. This is why it is written, "he shall rule over you" to the woman, and "wives submit to your own husbands as unto the LORD."



This, the doctrine of Theosis, is what the Two Trees are all about in the Garden, as well as for Cain an Abel. The Tree of Life regards the spiritual genealogical family tree of YHWH, or Yahaweh. The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil regards the spiritual genealogical tree of the family of the Devil, Sahtahn.



This is why you see men referred to as trees, with Jesus referring to men as trees, two trees; one tree is to bear bad fruit and one tree is to bear good fruit. Each tree can only bear the fruit (nature) of the two spirits, of God and the Devil:



"And he looked up, and said, 'I see men as trees walking'." Mark 8:24



"A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruit (nature) you will know them." Matthew 7:18-20



Here is Paul writing about the two spirits which are in men, in Romans:



"For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of Adoption, whereby we cry, Ab'ba, Father." Romans 8:15



Here Paul is writing about the two fruits of the two trees in Galatians:



"Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance: against which there is no law." Galatians 5:19-23



Here James is writing about the two wisdoms (knowledge about faith, God, and the world) which are in men, one wicked, and one righteous:



"This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish."..."But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, fulll of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy." James 3:15, 17



The "Holy Spirit" is the Spirit of the Father which dwells in the Sons of God:



"For as many as are led by the Spirit these are the sons of God." Romans 8:14



The scripture was not written by any men who were not indwelt by the Ruach Ha'Kodesh, and none except for those in which the Father's Spirit dwells can comprehend the Word, or are called to handle it.



Here we see, in the scripture, the Father dwelling in Jesus, and then speaking out to Philip, who asks to be able to see the Father. Notice how the Father is heard saying to Philip, "Have I been with you for so long Philip, and yet you do not know me?" The Father was in Philip, who was one of the anointed, though Philip did not fully comprehend this:



"Philip saith unto Him, 'Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us. Jesus said unto him, "Have I been so long time with you, and you do not know me, Philip" he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?" John 14:8-9



Here, in conclusion, we see Jesus tell Philip that the voice which he just heard coming out of Jesus, was that of the Father. Jesus makes it clear, that the voice which Philip had just heard, was not Jesus, but the Father which dwelled in Him:



"Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you, I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works." John 14:10



This, the Theosis of Men, is why Jesus said, "I and the Father are one", and "he that hath seen me hath seen the Father."



Cain had the Devil in him, and Abel had the Father in him. This is why Jesus referred to Abel as "righteous".



The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of the Father. The word "holy" is from the Hebrew "qodesh" which means "to be sanctified or se-apart". These are the men, the vessel which the Father dwells in.



These "two vessels" are written of by Paul, when the Father's Spirit was in him, in his generation. Note that Paul refers to the two vessel bring taken from the whole lump of mankind, one to used as a vessel of wrath (fitted to destruction) and one to be used as a vessel of mercy (prepared afore unto glory):



Those men in which the Spirit of the Father has dwelled were one with the Father, as was Messiah. This is why we see the Father tell Joshua after Moses had died, "as I was with Moses, so I will be with you also." (Joshua 1:5)



Whenever you see a man, you are seeing a man made in the image of God and His contrasting mechanism, the Devil.



The Father begin dwelling in Adam, and then in Abel, and then in Seth, and later in Abraham Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Joshua, and then through the centuries in those who are the chosen, from their mother's wombs.



Here we see the Father (YHWH) speak (prophesy) through Isaiah, that He will carry His chosen, from their mother's womb, and that He shall be with them carrying them all of their days:



"Hearken unto me O house of Jacob and all the remnant of the house of Israel, which are borne by me from the belly, which are carried from the womb: And even to your old age I am He; and even to your hoar hairs will I carry you: I have made, and I will bear; even I will carry, and will deliver you." Isaiah 46:3-4



This, taking of men from their mother's womb and dwelling in them, is what the Water Baptism is all about.



This is why we see both David and Paul write in both the Old and New Testaments, that they were taken by the Father from their mother's wombs. Yahaweh, Elohim, began dwelling in all of His chosen vessel when they were born (See Isaiah 46:3-4):



"But thou art He that took me out of the womb: thou didst make me hope when I was upon my mother's brea-ts. I was cast upon thee from the womb: thou art my God from my mother's belly." Psalms 22:9-10



"But when it pleased God who took me from my mother's womb, I immediately conferred not with flesh and blood." Galatians 1:15-16



Most ministers today are not anointed to handle the Word, for they have not been taught by the Father, and unless a man is taught by God (John 6:45) he cannot comprehend its mysteries. NOTE: Those who claim to comprehend the "gospel" are mostly the Devil's Seed masquerading as the sheep, the anointed, the chosen.

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The Theosis of Men: There is no such thing as "the Doctrine of the Trinity".
Posted : 3 Mar, 2014 08:47 AM

If you do not believe that the Son is God, His Father is God and the Holy Spirit s God then you are NOT a christian.

It means in this case you are an unbeliever.



God Jesus said that unbelievers do NOT inherit the Kingdom of God.



Ponder and believer or perish.

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The Theosis of Men: There is no such thing as "the Doctrine of the Trinity".
Posted : 3 Mar, 2014 08:55 AM

Your lie was exposed: you are not christian! But WHY do you write in your profile that you are a Christian?! To deceive Christians?

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The Theosis of Men: There is no such thing as "the Doctrine of the Trinity".
Posted : 3 Mar, 2014 09:00 AM

Let me remind you what our God Jesus said: liars do NOT inherit the Kingdom of God.



So, WHY do you lie in your profile to Christians?!

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The Theosis of Men: There is no such thing as "the Doctrine of the Trinity".
Posted : 3 Mar, 2014 11:37 AM

Jesus the Christ is the Greek Anglicized version of the Hebrew Name, Yahushua Ha'Mashiach. There was no letter "J" in any language on earth until the 14th century, so we know that the Name Jesus, while being acceptable, is not original.



If one was to go to the original King James Version of 1611, they would see that the name "JESUS" was not in it. The name used then, was "IESUS"



Thus, we who are true believers, who do not listen to men, but are taught by the Father, know the truth which sets men free. We contend for the faith once delivered to the saints:



"ye should contend for the faith once delivered to the saints." Jude 3



Jesus was not delivered to the original saints, this we know for certain.

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The Theosis of Men: There is no such thing as "the Doctrine of the Trinity".
Posted : 3 Mar, 2014 02:18 PM

"Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it. that ye may keep the commandments of YHWH your Elohim which I have commanded you." Deut 4:2



OKY DOKY...guess we all gotta by a new Bible called the Names of God Bible so we all be on the same page...Here ya go...here is a sample...



Deuteronomy 4:2 Names of God Bible (NOG)



2 Never add anything to what I command you, or take anything away from it. Then you will be able to obey the commands of Yahweh your Elohim that I give you.



*** Compare with the KJV



Deuteronomy 4:2 King James Version (KJV)



2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you.



*** And here is 1 John 5:6-9 in both also...



1 John 5:6-9 Names of God Bible (NOG)



6 This Son of God is Yeshua Christ, who came by water and blood. He didn�t come with water only, but with water and with blood. The Spirit is the one who verifies this, because the Spirit is the truth.



7 There are three witnesses:[a]



8 the Spirit, the water, and the blood. These three witnesses agree.



9 We accept human testimony. God�s testimony is greater because it is the testimony that he has given about his Son.





1 John 5:6-9 King James Version (KJV)



6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.



7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.



8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.



9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.



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The Theosis of Men: There is no such thing as "the Doctrine of the Trinity".
Posted : 3 Mar, 2014 02:28 PM

You are a very sad person, and shame on you to call yourself a Christian.



May the Lord open your eyes to His Word so that you can find the truth.

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The Theosis of Men: There is no such thing as "the Doctrine of the Trinity".
Posted : 3 Mar, 2014 10:16 PM

Thank you Emma.

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The Theosis of Men: There is no such thing as "the Doctrine of the Trinity".
Posted : 4 Mar, 2014 07:40 AM

EZ your take on the trinity runs a foul.



You continue to overlook obvious distinctions clearly stated in God's revelation about Himself.



Simply stated you commit the following reasoning error:



The Holy Spirit is God

The Son is God

Therefore the Son is the Holy Spirit



You will notice in the above syllogism that the major premise and minor premise are both true and consistent with Scripture but the conclusion is false.



Perhaps you might recognize the identical error more easily in the following:



A cat is an animal

A dog is animal

Therefore a cat is a dog



Hope this helps. Your kind of thinking is common error among anti-trinitarians so you're hardly unique.



I would urge you stop resisting the Holy Spirit, to be obedient to God's Word and "...study to show yourself as one approved, a workman who does not to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth..." 2 Tim 2:15

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The Theosis of Men: There is no such thing as "the Doctrine of the Trinity".
Posted : 4 Mar, 2014 09:48 AM

EZ



Genesis 3:16 needs to be addressed and restored to its proper context.



You seem to quote from it with a great deal of regularity but you appear to understand little regarding its meaning or even the context surrounding it.



Simply stated Genesis 3:16 contains a conversation between God and Eve. It is not a conversation between God and Adam and no where contains a command issued to Adam.

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