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Why didn't God send Paul to water baptize?
Posted : 26 Apr, 2014 08:11 AM

Answer: Because Spiritual baptism supercedes water baptism which is now obsolete.



This is an excerpt from http://separationtruth.com/resources/Bapt ism%242CMajestic+new.pdf



No 6. THE APOSTLE TO THE NATIONS IS NOT SENT TO WATER BAPTIZE

Consistent with the Pauline revelation, that Gentile converts were not to have the ritual Law

system imposed upon them, was Paul�s commission to preach the gospel, but not to water baptize.

We are told in I Cor. 1:17 by the Apostle Paul, himself, that he was not sent (by Christ)to (water)

baptize. Many theologians have tried desperately to explain away the face value of this testimony

by suggesting that Paul was too busy to water baptize. This argument falls flat because anyone who

reads the life of Paul knows with a certainty that Paul was never too busy to obey the Lord�s command to do anything.

John the Baptist was sent under the Jewish Dispensation to baptize with water�John 1:33,

and don�t forget that John was a great evangelist. The Scriptures are plain that �he turned many to

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the Lord.� No one disputes that testimony. The Apostle Paul, however, was sent under the Gentile

Dispensation �NOT to baptize (with water), but to preach the gospel,�i.e., to evangelize. In fact,

Paul prefaces his words about this by saying, �I thank God I only (water) baptized� several Jewish

converts. Now this is plain language! Paul did not want to be known and understood as one who

merely was starting a new sect by a water purification rite. His commission was different, and Bible

Christianity for this age is different. As we stated earlier, the Jewish converts were still keeping the

law system during the book of Acts� time period and Paul would still perform some of the Jewish

rites while God was patiently dealing with them�this included circumcision, headshaving, feast

observance, Sabbath keeping and water baptisms (see I Cor. 9:20,21).

If the baptism of the Great Commission was a water baptism, then Paul stands in direct

opposition to it�but not only that, he expresses a contempt for it. This, of course, would be totally

unlikely if the commission of Matt. 28:19 were a water baptism ordered by Christ. Since the

commission of Matt. 28 was to evangelize the nations, then certainly the Apostle to the nations

would be in harmony with it. And, indeed, that is the case.

The baptism that Paul administered by his preaching and teaching did not have a single drop

of water in it! See and believe Rom. 6:1-6; I Cor. 6:11; I Cor. 12:13; Gal. 3:27; Col. 2:12,13 & Eph.

4:1-5. I have personally challenged preachers for years to try and find any physical water (H2O) in

Paul�s expositions of Christian baptism. It is simply not there!

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Why didn't God send Paul to water baptize?
Posted : 26 Apr, 2014 12:22 PM

Again you spread heresies among Christians.

May God protect Christians from your destructive deception. Amen.

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Why didn't God send Paul to water baptize?
Posted : 27 Apr, 2014 08:52 AM

"This argument falls flat because anyone who



reads the life of Paul knows with a certainty that Paul was never too busy to obey the Lord�s command to do anything.



John the Baptist was sent under the Jewish Dispensation to baptize with water�John 1:33,....."



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"This argument falls flat"..? Sounds like the doctrines of men and intellectual persuasion, to me..



"Jewish Dispensation"..?



Where'd you get that fanciful phrase from..?



Do you find it written in the Word of God?



I didn't think so...



There is no "Jewish Dispensation" mentioned in the sanctified scripture, because there was and is no Jewish Dispensation; it is a myth created by the Sons of Belial. You need to go and read Deuteronomy 4:2, and Revelation 22:18-19, and cease adding to or taking away from the Torah (the Instructions of the Father).



Also, where do you see that John was baptizing "under the Jewish Dispensation"..? Where is that written in the sanctified scriptures?



Don't look, for it is not there, this is just another lie of the Devil's Seed and they proclaim to know what truth is..



The mystery of Torah, was that men did not comprehend that Torah was the Instructions of the Father dwelling in His sons, in the earlier generations of the 1,000 generations of the Sons of Darkness and the Sons of Light - Psalms 105:8).



This, the 1,000 generations, is what Peter was writing about, not some "Jewish Dispensation":



"But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people, that ye should show forth the praises of Him (God the Father) Who hath called you out of the darkness (out of the Devil's Seed) into His marvelous light." I Peter 2:9



You should think about changing the term "Jewish Dispensation" into "The 1,000 Generations of Torah"..



The "Jews", who were the Devil's Seed, then, as well as now, were telling men that what they were teaching in their Yeshivas, which was Jewish falsehoods and history, was/is Torah; and now the Christian seminaries, are doing the same thing.



There are not two religions represented in the scripture. Didn't Jesus tell you, "I pray that they may be ONE Father, as you and I are ONE"..?



The word "Torah" simply means, "the Instructions of the Father". It has never been done away with, nor can it be until the 1,000 generations be complete, and that will be the time of the end when the last saint is drawn and called.



How can you write of a "Jewish Dispensation", as though the Torah has been done away with, when it is written in the New Testament that the Torah has not been done away with..?



"Do we make void the law (Torah) through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law (the Torah)." Romans 3:31



The Old Testament is about the mysteries of Torah concealed, and the New Testament is about those mysteries being revealed..



Nothing about Torah shall ever be done away with as long as this world remains....

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Why didn't God send Paul to water baptize?
Posted : 27 Apr, 2014 10:09 AM

mimi from CM spreading her heresy!

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Why didn't God send Paul to water baptize?
Posted : 27 Apr, 2014 11:52 PM

Brother, they both DELIBERATELY spread here heresies among Christians.



May God protect Christians from your destructive deception. Amen. And punish you for that unless you repent.

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Why didn't God send Paul to water baptize?
Posted : 28 Apr, 2014 09:47 AM

1 Corinthians 1

12Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ. 13Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul? 14I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius; 15Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name. 16And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other. 17For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.



The excerpt you posted is taking this chapter largely out of context. Paul was glad that he didn't baptize very many people, but it had nothing to do with baptism. He did not want factions to arise in the church by people claiming that being baptized by Paul was better than being baptized by anyone else.



Paul was baptized and did baptize, just not very many in Corinth apparently. But he did certainly baptize Crispus and Gaius, and the house of Stephanas. How your excerpt manages to determine that they were all Jewish is beyond me. Stephanas is reckoned to be the jailer of Phillipi whose entire household was converted, and they were not Jewish.



Acts 18:8

And Crispus, the chief ruler of the synagogue, believed on the Lord with all his house; and many of the Corinthians hearing believed, and were baptized.



When the Jewish leader "Crispus" was baptized by Paul, many Corinthians were baptized also. Corinth did have Jews living there, but to simply assert that all Corinthians are Jews is not logical. I'm sorry, but it's going to take more than this kind of presumptive conjecture to persuade me.



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Why didn't God send Paul to water baptize?
Posted : 28 Apr, 2014 10:03 AM

In response to HouseofBoaz,



I see you are a Law keeper. Jesus fullfilled the whole Law there is nothing for Christians to fulfill. Yes, even water baptism.





Noticed a little twisting of Scripture:)



"Do we make void the law (Torah) through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law (the Torah)." Romans 3:31



Sir, we establish the law by FAITH.



Where then is boasting? It is excluded. By what kind of law? Of works? No, but by a LAW OF FAITH. Rom 3:27



Praise God!

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Why didn't God send Paul to water baptize?
Posted : 28 Apr, 2014 07:35 PM

Mimi I want to ask your forgiveness! Although I disagree with this post doesnt mean that everything you post or believe is heresy! Please forgive me!



May we all study the scripture as bereans~:angel:

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Why didn't God send Paul to water baptize?
Posted : 2 May, 2014 07:19 AM

I forgive you.:glow:



I am not angry with anyone who disagrees with what I post.



But I know that I have not posted ANY heresy. If someone can prove that what I have posted is heresy then I will repent and make the corrections.

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Posted : 10 May, 2014 09:49 AM

Oh Mimi......On the surface, you appear to be such a learned Christian for your short time as one.......However, like so many have already stated you are spreading heresy when you try to use scripture out of context and also giving it your own defining interpretations......



Water baptism is absolutely mandated by God for every Christian! Paul baptized several according to scripture and while saying in 1Cor1:17 he was not sent to baptize, but to preach the gospel.......he was simply stating that his main directive by Christ was to go and teach the Gospel.......For your information sister, baptism is an essential part of the gospel of the kingdom. so he was cleared and expected to do it all.......just not baptize only. Get it right dear Mimi......



And while I can go on and on to you.....I want to say one more thing with re to the Law. We are all expected to be law keepers. For just as Paul said, was the Law done away with? "God Forbid No".......afterall Christ came to fulfill all the law, which means He kept it, satisfied it, obeyed it, "fulfilling it and all that God commanded.....SO then shall we too.....DO all that our Lord did! KEEP all the Laws/Commands of God! God gave them as an everlasting commandment, meaning forever! Not just until.........until some people like you come along and spread false teachings that the law is no longer needed.......Are You Kidding Me?? Gods laws are everlasting just as His Word is! He said He is never ending, never changing & un changing! That pretty much sums up whether He, God expects anyone to come along a couple millennia later and try to say there is no law, we dont have to follow any of Gods laws....OR even better yet, lets pick and choose which ones suit us today and which ones dont.....Let us be our own gods!!!! Let us not water baptize anymore too......lets just water the gospel down........I say.......GOD HELP YOU FOR THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT IS NEAR AND YOU BEST REPENT FROM YOUR HERESY TEACHINGS.........

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Posted : 10 May, 2014 09:55 AM

Oh Mimi......On the surface, you appear to be such a learned Christian for your short time as one.......However, like so many have already stated you are spreading heresy when you try to use scripture out of context and also giving it your own defining interpretations......



Water baptism is absolutely mandated by God for every Christian! Paul baptized several according to scripture and while saying in 1Cor1:17 he was not sent to baptize, but to preach the gospel.......he was simply stating that his main directive by Christ was to go and teach the Gospel.......For your information sister, baptism is an essential part of the gospel of the kingdom. so he was cleared and expected to do it all.......just not baptize only. Get it right dear Mimi......



And while I can go on and on to you.....I want to say one more thing with re to the Law. We are all expected to be law keepers. For just as Paul said, was the Law done away with? "God Forbid No".......afterall Christ came to fulfill all the law, which means He kept it, satisfied it, obeyed it, "fulfilling it and all that God commanded.....SO then shall we too.....DO all that our Lord did! KEEP all the Laws/Commands of God! God gave them as an everlasting commandment, meaning forever! Not just until.........until some people like you come along and spread false teachings that the law is no longer needed.......Are You Kidding Me?? Gods laws are everlasting just as His Word is! He said He is never ending, never changing & un changing! That pretty much sums up whether He, God expects anyone to come along a couple millennia later and try to say there is no law, we dont have to follow any of Gods laws....OR even better yet, lets pick and choose which ones suit us today and which ones dont.....Let us be our own gods!!!! Let us not water baptize anymore too......lets just water the gospel down........I say.......GOD HELP YOU FOR THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT IS NEAR AND YOU BEST REPENT FROM YOUR HERESY TEACHINGS.........

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