Author	Thread: How Do You Determine
Admin	How Do You Determine Posted : 16 Jun, 2016 12:35 PM How do you determine which passages of Scripture are meant to be interpreted as principles and which are to be interpreted as direct commands? Many of us recognize that many of Paul's writings were given within a cultural context as principles, not direct commands for all believers to follow at all times. Also, I'm sure we all recognize that it is the Holy Spirit who guides us in all truth, but some of us believe He is guiding us one way in making this determination, and others believe He is guiding us another way. My point is, please don't just answer the question, "I follow the Holy Spirit" or something along those lines. I'm asking what criteria or rationale or thinking are you using in deciding which passages are principles and which are direct commands to be obeyed literally. Thanks! Post Reply
God_is_my_Father View Profile History	How Do You Determine Posted : 16 Jun, 2016 03:28 PM "Many of us recognize that many of Paul's writings were given within a cultural context as principles, not direct commands for all believers to follow at all times." I believe what you meant to say was, "Many of us assume that "many" of "Paul's" writings were given within a cultural context as principles, not direct commands for all believers to follow at all times", without being able to show why in any particular situation, that such is the case. Others are satisfied that this is God's unchanging word, which enunciates unchanging principles and commands which abide no matter the culture, or the passing of time unless specifically noted. God changes not, so why would the truth of His word be constantly changing, based upon culture or the passage of time? In particular, when Paul, speaking on behalf of God, says that a particular command or principle is rooted in creation order, he is saying that culture has no impact on the rule or principle. This is evident in 1 Timothy 2:13, where Paul says the rules in the passage are based upon creation order, not passing cultural standards. Post Reply
View Profile History	How Do You Determine Posted : 16 Jun, 2016 03:42 PM The truth of God's Word doesn't change. It is simply applied differently in different situations. Do you kiss every single one of your Christian brothers and sisters when you meet them anywhere and every where you see them? Romans 16:16 and 2 Corinthians 13:12 commands it, or do they? Post Reply
God_is_my_Father View Profile History	How Do You Determine Posted : 16 Jun, 2016 07:11 PM How people respond to a command of God is irrelevant. That He commands it is what matters. Post Reply
God_is_my_Father View Profile History	How Do You Determine Posted : 16 Jun, 2016 07:13 PM And when I say irrelevant, I speak with regard to its authoritative nature, not the impact of obedience or disobedience of the hearers on their own self and those whom they impact. Post Reply
View Profile History	How Do You Determine Posted : 16 Jun, 2016 07:21 PM You avoided my question. Do you or do you not obey God's command to kiss your Christian brothers and sisters when you greet them? Post Reply
God_is_my_Father View Profile History	How Do You Determine Posted : 16 Jun, 2016 08:04 PM Your question suggests that the response of man dictates the ability of God's commands to be effective or not. That is absurd. It makes no difference if the command is you shall not worship any other god or you shall not murder, or your shall not bear false witness or you shall honor your parents or kiss one another or not divorce. They each have the full force an effect of a command of Almighty God. That you are willing to debate such a point shows how much contempt you have for God and His commands, and how you view yourself as equal to Him in establishing what commands are appropriate to obey or not obey. Post Reply
View Profile History	How Do You Determine Posted : 17 Jun, 2016 03:36 AM Do you or do you not kiss your brothers and sisters in Christ when you meet them? It's not really a difficult question. Still waiting for your answer... Also, I meant to say exactly what I said in my original post. Post Reply
God_is_my_Father View Profile History	How Do You Determine Posted : 17 Jun, 2016 03:56 AM "Looking unto Jesus, the author and finisher of my faith." If your obedience is dependent upon my actions, then you have made me your god. I want no such thing. Obey the commands of God, and stop looking to me for how you should conduct your life. Look unto Jesus, and follow accordingly. I will not be your excuse for your sin. There is no, "aha" moment for you to obtain in this matter. "... seeing him, said to Jesus, �But Lord, what about this man?� Jesus said to him, �... what is that to you? You follow Me.�" Post Reply
View Profile History	How Do You Determine Posted : 17 Jun, 2016 06:33 AM Red herrings and ad hominems aside... still waiting for your answer. Do you or do you not kiss your brothers and sisters in Christ when you meet them? It's not really a difficult question. Post Reply
God_is_my_Father View Profile History	How Do You Determine Posted : 17 Jun, 2016 06:49 AM The direct command of Jesus Christ, Almighty God in the flesh, is NOT a red herring. It is a command for you to cease using others as your standard or by which you will determine if YOU will obey God. That is not acceptable. YOU have a command for YOU to follow and you have openly defied God's command to stop looking at others for how you will respond to His command. The Lord rebuke you. Post Reply

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