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**OUR SINS ARE FORGIVEN BY THE PRECIOUS BLOOD OF CHRIST**
Posted : 3 Dec, 2016 06:57 PM

**ARE WE ONLY REDEEEMED AND OUR SINS FORGIVEN BY THE PRECIOUS BLOOD OF CHRIST??**



John 13:34,35: Jesus says, "**A NEW COMMAND** I give you: Love one another **AS I HAVE LOVED YOU**, so you must love one another!" John 15:12,13: "Jesus says, "My command is this: Love each other **AS I HAVE LOVED YOU**. Greater love has no one than this, that **HE LAY DOWN HIS LIFE** for his friends!"



Matthew 26:28: Jesus says, "This is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many **FOR THE FORGIVENESS OF SINS**!"



Galatians 2:18-21: I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me! The life I live in the body, I live by **FAITH** in the Son of God, who loved me and **GAVE HIMSELF FOR ME**!! I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!!



Hebrews 9:12: He entered the Most Holy Place once for all by **HIS OWN BLOOD**, having obtained **ETERNAL REDEMPTION**!



Hebrews 9:22; 26-28: The law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and without the shedding of blood **THERE IS NO FORGIVENESS**.... But now He has appeared **ONCE FOR ALL** at the end of the ages to do away with sin **BY THE SACRIFICE OF HIMSELF**!! Just as man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgment, and Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many people, and He will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for Him!!



Ephesians 2:13: But now in Christ Jesus you who were once were far away have been brought near **THROUGH THE BLOOD OF CHRIST**!!



Hebrews 10:8-10: First He said, "Sacrifices and offerings, burnt offerings and sin offerings You did not desire, nor were You pleased with them," although the law required them to be made. Then He said, "Here I am, I have come to do Your will." He sets aside the first **TO ESTABLISH THE SECOND**. And by that will, we have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ **ONCE FOR ALL**!!



Romans 3:21-25: But now a righteousness from God, **APART FROM THE LAW**, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. This righteousness from God comes **THROUGH FAITH** in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified freely by **HIS GRACE** through the **REDEMPTION** that came by Christ Jesus. God presented Him as a **SACRIFICE OF ATONEMENT**, **THROUGH FAITH IN HIS BLOOD**!!



Romans 4:6-8: David says the same thing when he speaks of the righteousness of the man whom God credits righteousness **APART FROM WORKS**. "Blessed are they whose transgressions are forgiven, whose sins are covered. Blessed is the man whom sin the Lord **WILL NEVER COUNT AGAINST HIM**!"{David was inspired to write this in Psalm 32:1,2}



Isaiah 1:18: "Come now, let us reason together," says the Lord. "Though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow!!"



Colossians 1:15-20: He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For by Him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities, all things were created by Him and for Him. He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together. And He is the **HEAD OF HIS BODY, THE CHURCH**; He is the beginning and the firstborn from the dead, so that is **EVERYTHING HE MIGHT HAVE THE SUPREMACY**. For God was pleased to have all His fullness dwell in Him, and through Him to reconcile to Himself all things, whether things **ON EARTH** or things in heaven, by making peace **THROUGH HIS BLOOD**, shed on the cross!!



Colossians 2:13-15: When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your sinful nature, God made you **ALIVE WITH CHRIST**. He forgave us **ALL OUR SINS**, having canceled the written code, with its regulation, that was against us and that stood opposed to us, He took it away, **NAILNG IT TO THE CROSS**!!.



Ephesians 1:3-8; 11: Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in the heavenly realms with **EVERY** spiritual blessing in Christ. For He chose us in Him before the creation of the world to be holy and **BLAMELESS** in His sight. In love He predestined us to be adopted as His sons through Jesus Christ, in accordance with His pleasure and will--to the praise of His **GLORIOUS GRACE**, which He has freely given us in the One He loves. In Him we have **REDEMPTION THROUGH HIS BLOOD**, **THE FORGIVENESS OF SINS**, in accordance the riches of God's grace that He lavished on us with all wisdom and understanding!!



I Peter 1:18,19: For you know that was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were **REDEEMED** from the empty way of life handed down to you by your forefathers, but with the **PRECIOUS BLOOD OF CHRIST**, Lamb without blemish or defect!!



I Peter 2:24,25: He Himself **BORE OUR SINS** in His body on the tree, so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness, by **HIS WOUNDS** we are healed{See Isaiah 53:5,6}!! For you were like sheep going astray, but now you have returned to the Shepherd and Overseer of your souls!!



I Peter 3:18 For Christ **DIED FOR SINS ONCE FOR ALL**, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God!!



I John 2:1,2: My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have One who speaks to the Father in our defense--Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. He is the **ATONING SACRIFICE FOR OUR SINS**, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world!!



I John 4:10-12: This is **LOVE**, not that we loved God, but that He **LOVED** us and sent His Son as an **ATONING SACRIFICE** for our sins. Dear friends, since God so **LOVED** us, we also ought to **LOVE** one another. No one has ever seen God; but if we **LOVE** one another, God **LIVES IN US** and His **LOVE** is made complete in us.



Revelation 1:4,5: Grace and peace to you from Him who is, and who was, and who is to come and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful Witness... To Him who loves us and has freed us from our sins **BY HIS BLOOD**!!





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**WE ARE ONLY REDEEMED AND OUR SINS FORGIVEN BY THE PRECIOUS BLOOD OF CHRIST??** {CONTINUED}



NOTE: Jesus Christ our Savior is called the **LAMB** 30 times in the book of Revelation.



Revelation 5:6,9: Then I saw a **LAMB**, looking as if it had been slain, standing in the center of the throne...You are worthy to take the scroll and to open its seals because You were slain , and **WITH YOUR BLOOD** You purchased men for God from every tribe and language and people and nation!!



Revelation 12:11: They overcame him by the **BLOOD OF THE LAMB** and by the word of their testimony; they did not love their lives so much as to shrink from death!!



Revelation 7:14: These are they who have come out of the Great Tribulation, they have was their robes and made them white in the **BLOOD OF THE LAMB**!!



Isaiah 53:5,6: But He was pierced for our transgressions, He was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon Him, and by His wounds we are healed! We all, like sheep, have gone astray , each of us has turned to his own way, and **THE LORD HAS LAID ON HIM THE INIQUITY OF US ALL**!!



Romans 5:6-10: You see, at just the right time, when we were still powerless. Christ died for the ungodly. Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous man, though for a good man someone might possibly dare to die. But God demonstrates His love for us in this: While we were still sinners Christ died for us. Since we are now justified **BY HIS BLOOD**, how much more will we be saved from God's wrath through Him! When we were God's enemies, we were reconciled to Him **THROUGH THE DEATH OF HIS SON**!!



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**OUR SINS ARE FORGIVEN BY THE PRECIOUS BLOOD OF CHRIST**
Posted : 3 Dec, 2016 07:04 PM

**AMAZING TREASURES IN THE BOOK OF ROMANS**



Romans 1:17: For in the Gospel a righteousness from God is revealed, a righteousness that is **BY FAITH FROM FIRST TO LAST**!!



Romans 3:21-25: But now a righteousness from God, **APART FROM THE LAW**, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. This righteousness from God comes **THROUGH FAITH** in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified freely by **HIS GRACE** through the **REDEMPTION** that came by Christ Jesus. God presented Him as a **SACRIFICE OF ATONEMENT**, **THROUGH FAITH IN HIS BLOOD**!!



Romans 4:6-8: David says the same thing when he speaks of the righteousness of the man whom God credits righteousness **APART FROM WORKS**. "Blessed are they whose transgressions are forgiven, whose sins are covered. Blessed is the man whom sin the Lord **WILL NEVER COUNT AGAINST HIM**!"{David was inspired to write this in Psalm 32:1,2}



Romans 8:28-30: And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love Him, who have been **CALLED** according to His purpose. For those God **FOREKNEW** He also **PREDESTINED** to be conformed to the likeness of His Son... And those He **PREDESTINED**, He also **CALLED**, those He called, He also **JUSTIFIED**, those He justified, He also **GLORIFIED**!!



Romans 8:38,39: In all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels or demons, neither the present or the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation , **WILL BE ABLE TO SEPARATE US** from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord!!



Romans 12:3-7: Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourself with sober judgment, in accordance with the measure of faith **GOD HAS GIVEN YOU**! Just as each of us has one body with many members, and these members do not all have the same function, so in Christ we who are many form one body, and each member belongs to all the others. We have **DIFFERENT GIFTS**, according to the grace given us. If a man's gift is prophesying, let him use it in proportion to his faith. If it is serving. let him serve, if it is encouraging, let him encourage, if it is contributing to the needs of others, let him give generously; if it is leadership , let him govern diligently, if it is showing mercy, let him do it cheerfully!!



Romans 12:17-21: Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everybody. If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, **LIVE AT PEACE WITH EVERYONE**. Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: "It is Mine to avenge, I will repay," says the Lord. On the contrary: If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink. In doing this you will heap burning coals on his head. Do not be overcome by evil, but **OVERCOME EVIL WITH GOOD**!!





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Posted : 4 Dec, 2016 04:15 PM

WILL THE GREAT TRIBULATION AND THE REIGN OF 666, THE BEAST OR THE ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION LAST EXACTLY 1260 DAYS OR 42 {30-DAY} MONTHS AND NOT 7 YEARS???



*Note by comparing Revelation 12:6 and Revelation 12:14 we can know that time {360 days}, times {720 days}, and 1/2 a time {180 days} and 1260 days are the exact same period of time. 42 {30-day} months and 1260 days or time {12 months}, times {24 months} and 1/2 a time {6 months} are also the exact same period of time.



*{#1}** Daniel 12:1b,2,7b: �There will be a time of distress {The Great Tribulation} such as not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time {The Last Day} your people--*EVERYONE* whose name is found written in the book {Both OT & NT Saints}�will be delivered. Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt�It will be for a time. times and half a time {Which is also 1260 days as per Rev 12:6,14, or 42 {30-day} months as per Rev 13:5} *ALL* these things will be *COMPLETED.



**{#2}** Rev 13:5,7: The beast will be given a mouth to utter blasphemies and to exercise his authority for 42 months �He will be given power to make war against the saints and to conquer them. COMPARE WITH:



**{#3}**Dan 7:25: �He will speak against the Most High and oppress His saints. The saints will be handed over to him for time {12 months}, times {24 months} and 1/2 a time {6 months} {Or 42 months}



A seven-year Great Tribulaion or rule of 666 is never mentioned in God's Word!!



** A SEVEN-YEAR GREAT TRIBULATION OR SEVEN-YEAR RULE OF 666 IS NEVER MENTIONED IN GOD'S WORD!!



Daniel 9:24: 70 7's are decreed... to **ATONE FOR WICKEDNESS**{After 69 1/2 7's}, **TO BRING IN EVERLASTING RIGHTEOUSNESS**{After 70 7's} and **TO ANOINT THE MOST HOLY**{After 69 7's or 483 years!!} The last half of the Last 7 would be the 1260-day Great Tribulation just before the glorious Coming of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, on the Last Day of the 70th 7!!



Daniel 9:25: Know and understand this. From the issuing of the decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed one, the Ruler, comes, there will be 62 7's and 7 7's {Or 69 7's which would be 483 years}



And so the first half of the last 7 was already COMPLETED when Jesus put and END to all sacrifices for sin;1260 days after His Anointing which occurred after 69 7's. When the Anointed One came 69 7's or 483 years were 100% completed [See Dan 9:25 above} leaving just one 7 in the future after the Anointed One comes and then came a 1260-day New Covenant which ended when Jesus put an end to all sacrifices for sin.



It is interesting to note that in Daniel 9:25 it states that 70 7's are decreed *TO ATONE FOR WICKEDNESS* and therefore those who believe in a7 year future Tribulation DO NO INCLUDE CHRIST'S ATONEMENT FOR SINS IN THE 70 '7s OR 490 YEAR PROPHECY!! since the coming of the Anointed One to earth took place on the last day of the 69 7's!!! or after 483 years!!



Those who wrongly believe in a future 7-year Tribulation; must wrongly believe that the ATONEMENT FOR WICKEDNESS by Jesus about 3 1/2 years after His Anointing can not be included in the 70 7's Prophecy.!!!



Hebrews 10:8-10: First He said, "Sacrifices and offerings, burnt offerings and sin offerings You did not desire, nor were You pleased with them," although the law required them to be made. Then He said, "Here I am, I have come to do Your will." He sets aside the first **TO ESTABLISH THE SECOND**. And by that will, we have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ **ONCE FOR ALL**!!



Hebrews 9:22; 26-28: The law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and without the shedding of blood **THERE IS NO FORGIVENESS**.... But now He has appeared **ONCE FOR ALL** at the end of the ages to do away with sin **BY THE SACRIFICE OF HIMSELF**!! Just as man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgment, so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many people {In the middle of the last 7} He will appear a second time,{On the Last day of the 70th 7} not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for Him!!



Daniel 9:26,27: The Anointed One will be cut off... He will confirm a Covenant for one seven. In the middle of the seven He will put and an end to sacrifice and offering{And then after a long pause}He will set up an Abomination of Desolation, {For 42 months} until the end that is decreed is poured out on him. { See Rev 19:20 & 2 Thess 2:8}



What then, is the explanation of Matthew 24:15,16??



Matthew 24:15,16: So when you see standing in the **HOLY PLACE** 'the abomination that causes of desolation spoken of through the prophet Daniel {See Daniel 9:27b and Daniel 7:25} let the reader understand--then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.



3 1/2 days before the Last Day of the Great Tribulation God will allow the Abomination of Desolation to kill His 2 witnesses {Moses & Elijah} in the *HOLY PLACE** right where our Lord Jesus was crucified in Judea; and then those saints in Judea should flee to the mountains.



Revelation 11:7-11,15,18: Now when they have finished their {1260-day} testimony, the beast that comes up from the Abyss {Or the Abomination of Desolation} will attack them, and overpower and kill them. {Then let those saints in Judea flee to the mountains as per Matt 24:16} Their bodies will lie in the street of the great city...where their Lord was crucified {The New Holy Place} For three and a half days men from every people, tribe, language and nation will gaze on their bodies {On Worldwide TV} and refuse them burial... But after three and half days a breath of life from God entered them, and they stood on their feet ... Then they heard a loud Voice from heaven saying to them , "COME UP HERE" And the went up to heaven in a cloud...The seventh angel sounded his trumpet , and there were loud voices in heaven, which said, "The kingdoms of the world has become the Kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ, and He will reign for ever and ever...The time has come for judging the dead and for rewarding your servants the prophets and your saints... and for destroying those who destroy the earth!!"



So then, how do you explain 2 Thessalonians 2:4??



2 Thessalonians 2:4: He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God.



Revelation 13:15-17: He {the False Prophet of 666} will be given power to give breath to the image of the first beast {666} so that it could speak! and cause all who refused **TO WORSHIP** the image to be killed. He also forced everyone to receive a markon his right hand or on his forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark,which is the **NAME OF THE BEAST** or the number of his name.{666}



And when 666 kills God's powerful 2 witnesses in the new **HOLY PLACE** right where their Lord was crucified; he will claim to be God!



666 will also be able to persecute and kill God's saints who are the new **TEMPLE OF GOD**!!



I Corinthians 3:16,17: Don't you know that you yourselves are **GOD'S TEMPLE* and that God's Spirit lives in you? If anyone destroys God's temple, God will destroy him; for God's temple is sacred, and **YOU ARE THAT TEMPLE!!



2 Corinthians 6:16: For **WE ARE THE TEMPLE** of the living God!!



Revelation 11:1: "Go and measure the **TEMPLE OF GOD** and count the worshipers there!"



Revelation 7:14,15: These are they who have come out of the Great Tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the **LAMB**. Therefore, they are before the throne of God and serve Him day and night in His Temple!!



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Posted : 4 Dec, 2016 06:12 PM

No, they are not. Our sin is forgiven by Almighty God upon request for forgiveness. It is the blood and life of Christ which was sacrificed to make the offer of forgiveness possible, but it doesn't happen without confession. It is an offer of forgiveness that must be accepted through confession/belief in the name of the Son of God.

"If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." 1 John 1:9

IF and ONLY IF.

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Posted : 4 Dec, 2016 09:32 PM

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No, they are not. Our sin is forgiven by Almighty God upon request for forgiveness. It is the blood and life of Christ which was sacrificed to make the offer of forgiveness possible, but it doesn't happen without confession. It is an offer of forgiveness that must be accepted through confession/belief in the name of the Son of God.



"If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." 1 John 1:9



IF and ONLY IF



**BUT WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY**??





WE ARE SAVED BY FAITH WHICH IS THE FREE GIFT OF GOD--NOT BY WORKS SO THAT NO ONE CAN BOAST!!"



Titus 3:3,4: At one time we too were foolish, disobedient, deceived and enslaved by all kinds of passions and pleasures. We lived in malice and envy, being hated and hating one another. But when the kindness and **LOVE** of God our Savior appeared , he saved us, **NOT BECAUSE OF RIGHTEOUS THINGS WE HAD DONE**, but because of **HIS MERCY**!!



Romans 11:5,6: At the present time there is a remnant **CHOSEN BY GRACE**! And if by grace it is **NO LONGER BY WORKS**; if it were, grace would no longer be grace!!



Romans 9:30-32: What then shall we say? That the Gentiles, who did not pursue righteousness, have obtained it, a righteousness that is **BY FAITH**; but Israel, who pursued a law of righteousness, has not attained it Why not? Because they pursued it **NOT BY FAITH** but as it were by works!!



Romans 4:5-8: To the man who does not work but trusts God who justifies the wicked, **HIS FAITH** is credited as righteousness. David says the same thing when he speaks of the blessedness of the man to whom God credits righteousness **APART FROM WORKS**: "Blessed are they whose transgressions are forgiven, whose sins are covered. Blessed is the man whose sin the Lord will **NEVER COUNT AGAINST HIM**!!" {Psalm 32:1,2}



Ephesians 1:5-8: In love He predestined us to be adopted as His sons through Jesus Christ, in accordance with His pleasure and will--to the praise of His **GLORIOUS GRACE**, which He has freely given us in the One He loves. In Him we have **REDEMPTION THROUGH HIS BLOOD**, the **FORGIVENESS OF SINS**, in accordance with the riches of God's grace that He lavished on us with all wisdom and understanding!



Ephesians 2:4-10: Because of His great love for us, God,, who is rich in mercy, made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions--it is **BY GRACE** you have been saved! And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with Him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus, in order that in the coming ages He might show the incomparable riches of His grace, expressed in His kindness to us in Christ Jesus. For it is **BY GRACE** you have been saved, through faith-- and this **NOT FROM YOURSELVES**, it is the **GIFT** of God--**NOT BY WORKS**, so that no one can boast. For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do!!



John 3:3: Jesus says, I tell you the Truth, no one can see the Kingdom of God **UNLESS HE IS BORN AGAIN!!"



John 1:12,13: To all who received Him, to those who believed in His name, he gave the right to become children of God--children born not of natural descent, **NOR OF A HUMAN DECISION** or a husband's will but, **BORN OF GOD**!!



John 6:37,39,44,65: Jesus says, "**ALL** that the Father gives Me **WILL** come to Me, and whoever comes to Me I will **NEVER** drive away... And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that I shall **LOSE NONE** of all that He has given Me, but raise them up at the Last Day.... No one can come to Me **UNLESS** the Father who sent Me **DRAWS HIM**, and I will raise him up at the Last Day!!... No one can come to Me **UNLESS** the Father has **ENABLED THEM**!!"



Romans 829-33,35,38,39: For those God foreknew He also predestined to be conformed to the likeness of His Son...And those He **PREDESTINED**, He also called; those He **CALLED**, He also justified; those He **JUSTIFIED** He also **GLORIFIED**. What shall we say in response to this? If God is for us, who can be against us? He who did not spare His Son but gave Him up for us all--how will He not also give us all things? Who will bring any charge against those **WHOM GOD HAS CHOSEN**? It is God who justifies. Who is he who condemns... Who shall separate us from the love of Christ?... For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels or demons, neither the present or the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord!!



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Posted : 5 Dec, 2016 12:01 AM

"If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." 1 John 1:9

IF and ONLY IF

You, ignoring God's explicit statement in His holy word, ask: **BUT WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY**?? You just read it. That's what God's word says.

"If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." 1 John 1:9

God is the One who forgives. God is the One who cleanses. The blood is what God uses to cleanse. God's blood is like soap. Soap does not apply itself. It has to be applied by another. God applies it.

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**OUR SINS ARE FORGIVEN BY THE PRECIOUS BLOOD OF CHRIST**
Posted : 5 Dec, 2016 08:21 AM

Quote from God is my Father:



No, they are not. Our sin is forgiven by Almighty God upon request for forgiveness. It is the blood and life of Christ which was sacrificed to make the offer of forgiveness possible, but it doesn't happen without confession. It is an offer of forgiveness that must be accepted through confession/belief in the name of the Son of God.



"If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." 1 John 1:9



IF and ONLY IF



**HOWEVER, WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY**??



Now here "God is my Father" is implying that our salvation is dependent on "OUR CONFESSION OF OUR SINS" and completely ignores other Scripture that states that our faith and salvation is the **FREE GIFT OF GOD** and that the Father **DRAWS HIM** and **ENABLES HIM** to make that confession for salvation.



But if we look into the context of I John 1:9 we find that it has nothing to do with our original salvation but has to do with our confession of daily sins **AFTER** we have received the free gift of salvation.



I John 1:8,9; 2:1,2: If we {believers} claim to be without sin, **WE DECEIVE OURSELVES** and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we {believers} we have not sinned, we make Him out to be a liar and His word has no place in our lives....If anybody does sin, we have one who speaks to the Father in our defense--Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. He is the **ATONING SACRIFICE FOR OUR SINS**!!



Luke 11:1-4: The disciples asked Jesus, "Teach us to pray" Jesus said to His disciples, "When you pray, say: 'Father , hallowed be your name, Your kingdom come. Give us each day our **DAILY** bread. Forgive us {disciples} our sins, for we forgive everyone who sins against us'"



Here we see that Jesus tells His disciples to daily ask the Father to forgive them of their sins. God's Word states that we must be holy as God is holy as per I Peter 1:15,16; and to walk as Jesus walked as per I John 2:6. And God understands that we really don't understand how much we fall short and sin daily.



The closer we get to God the more we realize how much we fall short and sin daily; and realize our need to confess our sins daily to get closer to God. Take Paul, the greatest NT saint, for example:



I Timothy 1:15,16: Paul said, "Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners--of whom **I AM THE WORST**. But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, **THE WORST OF SINNERS**, Christ Jesus might display **HIS UNLIMITED PATIENCE** as an example for those who would believe on Him and receive eternal life.



Titus 3:3,4: At one time we too were foolish, disobedient, deceived and enslaved by all kinds of passions and pleasures. We lived in malice and envy, being hated and hating one another. But when the kindness and **LOVE** of God our Savior appeared , he saved us, **NOT BECAUSE OF RIGHTEOUS THINGS WE HAD DONE**, but because of **HIS MERCY**!!



Romans 11:5,6: At the present time there is a remnant **CHOSEN BY GRACE**! And if by grace it is **NO LONGER BY WORKS**; if it were, grace would no longer be grace!!



Romans 9:30-32: What then shall we say? That the Gentiles, who did not pursue righteousness, have obtained it, a righteousness that is **BY FAITH**; but Israel, who pursued a law of righteousness, has not attained it Why not? Because they pursued it **NOT BY FAITH** but as it were by works!!



Romans 4:5-8: To the man who does not work but trusts God who justifies the wicked, **HIS FAITH** is credited as righteousness. David says the same thing when he speaks of the blessedness of the man to whom God credits righteousness **APART FROM WORKS**: "Blessed are they whose transgressions are forgiven, whose sins are covered. Blessed is the man whose sin the Lord will **NEVER COUNT AGAINST HIM**!!" {Psalm 32:1,2}



Isaiah 1:18: "Come now, let us reason together," says the Lord. "Though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as **WHITE AS SNOW**!"



Isaiah 53:5,6: For He was pierced for our transgressions, He was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon Him, and by His wounds we are healed. We all like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to his own way, and the Lord has **LAID ON HIM THE INIQUITY OF US ALL**!!



Ephesians 1:5-8: In love He predestined us to be adopted as His sons through Jesus Christ, in accordance with His pleasure and will--to the praise of His **GLORIOUS GRACE**, which He has freely given us in the One He loves. In Him we have **REDEMPTION THROUGH HIS BLOOD**, the **FORGIVENESS OF SINS**, in accordance with the riches of God's grace that He lavished on us with all wisdom and understanding!



Ephesians 2:8-10: For it is **BY GRACE** you have been saved, through faith-- and this **NOT FROM YOURSELVES**, it is the **GIFT** of God--**NOT BY WORKS**, so that no one can boast. For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do!!



John 1:12,13: To all who received Him, to those who believed in His name, he gave the right to become children of God--children born not of natural descent, **NOR OF A HUMAN DECISION** or a husband's will but, **BORN OF GOD**!!



John 6:37,39,44,65: Jesus says, "**ALL** that the Father gives Me **WILL** come to Me, and whoever comes to Me I will **NEVER** drive away... And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that I shall **LOSE NONE** of all that He has given Me, but raise them up at the Last Day.... No one can come to Me **UNLESS** the Father who sent Me **DRAWS HIM**, and I will raise him up at the Last Day!!... No one can come to Me **UNLESS** the Father has **ENABLED THEM**!!"



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**OUR SINS ARE FORGIVEN BY THE PRECIOUS BLOOD OF CHRIST**
Posted : 5 Dec, 2016 07:09 PM

Are you suggesting these are two different things? That you can believe and not be saved? Or are these two different ways of expressing the same thing, as I suggested when I wrote: It is an offer of forgiveness that must be accepted through confession/belief in the name of the Son of God."?

"For Moses writes about the righteousness which is of the law, �The man who does those things shall live by them.� But the righteousness of faith speaks in this way, �Do not say in your heart, �Who will ascend into heaven?�� (that is, to bring Christ down from above) or, ��Who will descend into the abyss?�� (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead). But what does it say? �The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart� (that is, the word of faith which we preach): that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the Scripture says, �Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.�For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord over all is rich to all who call upon Him. For �whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.�

What is Paul saying? That they need to renew their fellowship by calling upon the name of the Lord? Or is he saying that is how you gain eternal salvation?

It is ALMIGHTY GOD, and NONE OTHER that forgives sin. 1 John 1:9 "If we confess our sins, *****He***** is faithful and just *****to forgive***** us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

If you say this is not true, you call ALMIGHTY GOD a liar because you have said God is not the only One who can forgive us.

Show ONE verse that explicitly states that another being or entity does the actual forgiving of the ETERNAL debt of sin. I am NOT talking about forgiving of sin on earth by man. I am talking about the eternal debt owed for the sin, all of it, by man, for his sin. Show ONE verse where it says the blood forgives. Not that the blood cleanses. Show ONE where it says the blood forgives. Not one that says it is a vehicle through which we receive forgiveness, but the that blood itself forgives. ANYWHERE in scripture.

Do we start one way and continue another? "As you therefore have received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk in Him."

Is faith in Christ now something different than believing upon the name of the Son of God because it is worded differently?

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Posted : 5 Dec, 2016 08:59 PM

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Show ONE verse where it says the blood forgives. Not that the blood cleanses. Show ONE where it says the blood forgives. Not one that says it is a vehicle through which we receive forgiveness, but the that blood itself forgives. ANYWHERE in scripture.



WELL WE WILL JUST GIVE YOU **TWENTY** SCRIPTURE WHICH SHOW THAT THE BLOOD OF CHRIST FORGIVES OUR SINS**



Matthew 26:28: Jesus says, "This is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many **FOR THE FORGIVENESS OF SINS**!"



Galatians 2:18-21: I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me! The life I live in the body, I live by **FAITH** in the Son of God, who loved me and **GAVE HIMSELF FOR ME**!! I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!!



Hebrews 9:12: He entered the Most Holy Place once for all by **HIS OWN BLOOD**, having obtained **ETERNAL REDEMPTION**!



Hebrews 9:22; 26-28: The law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and **WITHOUT THE SHEDDING OF BLOOD THERE IS NO FORGIVENESS**.... But now He has appeared **ONCE FOR ALL** at the end of the ages **TO DO AWAY WITH SIN BY THE SACRIFICE OF HIMSELF**!! Just as man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgment, and **CHRIST WAS SACRIFICED ONCE TO TAKE AWAY THE SINS OF MANY PEOOPLE**, and He will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for Him!!



Hebrews 10:8-10: First He said, "Sacrifices and offerings, burnt offerings and sin offerings You did not desire, nor were You pleased with them," although the law required them to be made. Then He said, "Here I am, I have come to do Your will." He sets aside the first **TO ESTABLISH THE SECOND**. And by that will, **WE HAVE BEEN MADE HOLY THROUGH THE SACRIFICE OF JESUS CHRIST** once for all!



Romans 3:23-25: There is no difference, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified freely by **HIS GRACE** through the **REDEMPTION** that came by Christ Jesus. God presented Him as a **SACRIFICE OF ATONEMENT**, **THROUGH FAITH IN HIS BLOOD**!!



Colossians 1:19-20:. For God was pleased to have all His fullness dwell in Him, and through Him to reconcile to Himself all things, whether things **ON EARTH** or things in heaven, by making peace **THROUGH HIS BLOOD**, shed on the cross!!



Colossians 2:13-15: When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your sinful nature, God made you **ALIVE WITH CHRIST**. He forgave us **ALL OUR SINS**, having canceled the written code, with its regulation, that was against us and that stood opposed to us, He took it away, **NAILNG IT TO THE CROSS**!!



Ephesians 1:5-8; 11: In love He predestined us to be adopted as His sons through Jesus Christ, in accordance with His pleasure and will--to the praise of His **GLORIOUS GRACE**, which He has freely given us in the One He loves. In Him we have **REDEMPTION THROUGH HIS BLOOD**, **THE FORGIVENESS OF SINS**, in accordance the riches of God's grace that He lavished on us with all wisdom and understanding!!



I Peter 1:18,19: For you know that was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were **REDEEMED** from the empty way of life handed down to you by your forefathers, but with the **PRECIOUS BLOOD OF CHRIST**, Lamb without blemish or defect!!



I Peter 2:24,25: He Himself **BORE OUR SINS IN HIS BODY ON THE TREE**, so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness, **BY HIS WOUNDS WE ARE HEALED {See Isaiah 53:5,6}!! For you were like sheep going astray, but now you have returned to the Shepherd and Overseer of your souls!!



Isaiah 53:5,6: But **HE WAS PIERCED FOR OUR TRANSGRESSIONS**; He was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon Him; and **BY HIS WOUNDS WE ARE HEALED**. We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to his own way; and the **LORD HAS LAID ON HIM THE INIQUITY OF US ALL**!!



I Peter 3:18 For **CHRIST DIED FOR SINS ONCE FOR ALL**, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God!!



I John 2:1,2: My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have One who speaks to the Father in our defense--Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. He is the **ATONING SACRIFICE FOR OUR SINS**, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world!!



I John 4:10: This is **LOVE**, not that we loved God, but that He **LOVED** us and sent His Son as an **ATONING SACRIFICE FOR OUR SINS**!.



Revelation 1:4,5: Grace and peace to you from Him who is, and who was, and who is to come and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful Witness... To Him who loves us and has **FREED US FROM OUR SINS BY HIS BLOOD**!!



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Posted : 6 Dec, 2016 12:15 PM

Not one of those says the BLOOD is the One that forgives.

Those verses say, as I said before, that it is the shedding of blood which makes it possible for our sin to be forgiven BY ALMIGHTY GOD.

"If we confess our sins, HE (ALMIGHTY GOD, not IT) is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."

This verse is crystal clear as to Whom it is that does the forgiving. This verse is not contradicted anywhere. You're failure to understand the use of the word through does not make 1 John 1:9 wrong. You don't go to the blood to ask forgiveness. You go to Almighty God.

God uses to blood to cleanse. the blood does not forgive anything. The blood washes. It is the mechanism which allows for forgiveness, and salvation, and being made righteous. It is God that cleanses us using to blood to clean us. It is God that assigns righteousness to us, not the blood. It is Almighty God with whom we need establish a relationship. The whole being. The blood plays a critical role, but never is the One who forgives. Move on.

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Posted : 6 Dec, 2016 01:12 PM

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No, they are not. Our sin is forgiven by Almighty God upon request for forgiveness. It is the blood and life of Christ which was sacrificed to make the offer of forgiveness possible, but it doesn't happen without confession. It is an offer of forgiveness that must be accepted through confession/belief in the name of the Son of God.



"If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." 1 John 1:9



IF and ONLY IF



**HOWEVER, WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY**??



Now here "God is my Father" is implying that our salvation is dependent on "OUR CONFESSION OF OUR SINS" and completely ignores other Scripture that states that our faith and salvation is the **FREE GIFT OF GOD** and that the Father **DRAWS HIM** and **ENABLES HIM** to make that confession for salvation.



But if we look into the context of I John 1:9 we find that it has nothing to do with our original salvation but has to do with our confession of daily sins **AFTER** we have received the free gift of salvation.



I John 1:9 IN CONTEXT:



I John 1:8,9; 2:1,2: If we {believers} claim to be without sin, **WE DECEIVE OURSELVES** and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we {believers} we have not sinned, we make Him out to be a liar and His word has no place in our lives....If anybody does sin, we have one who speaks to the Father in our defense--Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. He is the **ATONING SACRIFICE FOR OUR SINS**!!



Luke 11:1-4: The disciples asked Jesus, "Teach us to pray" Jesus said to His disciples, "When you pray, say: 'Father , hallowed be your name, Your kingdom come. Give us each day our **DAILY** bread. Forgive us {disciples} our sins, for we forgive everyone who sins against us'"



Here we see that Jesus tells His disciples to daily ask the Father to forgive them of their sins. God's Word states that we must be holy as God is holy as per I Peter 1:15,16; and to walk as Jesus walked as per I John 2:6. And God understands that we really don't understand how much we fall short and sin daily.



The closer we get to God the more we realize how much we fall short and sin daily; and realize our need to confess our sins daily to get closer to God. Take Paul, the greatest NT saint, for example:



I Timothy 1:15,16: Paul said, "Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners--of whom **I AM THE WORST**. But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, **THE WORST OF SINNERS**, Christ Jesus might display **HIS UNLIMITED PATIENCE** as an example for those who would believe on Him and receive eternal life.



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Show ONE verse where it says the blood forgives. Show ONE where it says the blood forgives. Not one that says it is a vehicle through which we receive forgiveness, but the that blood itself forgives. ANYWHERE in scripture.



WELL WE WILL JUST GIVE YOU **TWENTY** SCRIPTURE WHICH SHOW THAT THE BLOOD OF CHRIST FORGIVES OUR SINS**



Ephesians 1:5-8; 11: In love He predestined us to be adopted as His sons through Jesus Christ, in accordance with His pleasure and will--to the praise of His **GLORIOUS GRACE**, which He has freely given us in the One He loves. In Him we have **REDEMPTION THROUGH HIS BLOOD**, **THE FORGIVENESS OF SINS**, in accordance the riches of God's grace that He lavished on us with all wisdom and understanding!!



Hebrews 9:22; 26-28: The law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and **WITHOUT THE SHEDDING OF BLOOD THERE IS NO FORGIVENESS**.... But now He has appeared **ONCE FOR ALL** at the end of the ages **TO DO AWAY WITH SIN BY THE SACRIFICE OF HIMSELF**!! Just as man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgment, and **CHRIST WAS SACRIFICED ONCE TO TAKE AWAY THE SINS OF MANY PEOOPLE**, and He will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for Him!!



Matthew 26:28: Jesus says, "This is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many **FOR THE FORGIVENESS OF SINS**!"



Galatians 2:18-21: I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me! The life I live in the body, I live by **FAITH** in the Son of God, who loved me and **GAVE HIMSELF FOR ME**!! I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!!



Hebrews 9:12: He entered the Most Holy Place once for all by **HIS OWN BLOOD**, having obtained **ETERNAL REDEMPTION**!



Hebrews 10:8-10: First He said, "Sacrifices and offerings, burnt offerings and sin offerings You did not desire, nor were You pleased with them," although the law required them to be made. Then He said, "Here I am, I have come to do Your will." He sets aside the first **TO ESTABLISH THE SECOND**. And by that will, **WE HAVE BEEN MADE HOLY THROUGH THE SACRIFICE OF JESUS CHRIST** once for all!



Romans 3:23-25: There is no difference, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified freely by **HIS GRACE** through the **REDEMPTION** that came by Christ Jesus. God presented Him as a **SACRIFICE OF ATONEMENT**, **THROUGH FAITH IN HIS BLOOD**!!



Colossians 1:19-20:. For God was pleased to have all His fullness dwell in Him, and through Him to reconcile to Himself all things, whether things **ON EARTH** or things in heaven, by making peace **THROUGH HIS BLOOD**, shed on the cross!!



Colossians 2:13-15: When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your sinful nature, God made you **ALIVE WITH CHRIST**. He forgave us **ALL OUR SINS**, having canceled the written code, with its regulation, that was against us and that stood opposed to us, He took it away, **NAILNG IT TO THE CROSS**!!



Ephesians 1:5-8; 11: In love He predestined us to be adopted as His sons through Jesus Christ, in accordance with His pleasure and will--to the praise of His **GLORIOUS GRACE**, which He has freely given us in the One He loves. In Him we have **REDEMPTION THROUGH HIS BLOOD**, **THE FORGIVENESS OF SINS**, in accordance the riches of God's grace that He lavished on us with all wisdom and understanding!!



I Peter 1:18,19: For you know that was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were **REDEEMED** from the empty way of life handed down to you by your forefathers, but with the **PRECIOUS BLOOD OF CHRIST**, Lamb without blemish or defect!!



I Peter 2:24,25: He Himself **BORE OUR SINS IN HIS BODY ON THE TREE**, so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness, **BY HIS WOUNDS WE ARE HEALED {See Isaiah 53:5,6}!! For you were like sheep going astray, but now you have returned to the Shepherd and Overseer of your souls!!



Isaiah 53:5,6: But **HE WAS PIERCED FOR OUR TRANSGRESSIONS**; He was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon Him; and **BY HIS WOUNDS WE ARE HEALED**. We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to his own way; and the **LORD HAS LAID ON HIM THE INIQUITY OF US ALL**!!



I Peter 3:18 For **CHRIST DIED FOR SINS ONCE FOR ALL**, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God!!



I John 2:1,2: My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have One who speaks to the Father in our defense--Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. He is the **ATONING SACRIFICE FOR OUR SINS**, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world!!



I John 4:10: This is **LOVE**, not that we loved God, but that He **LOVED** us and sent His Son as an **ATONING SACRIFICE FOR OUR SINS**!.



Revelation 1:4,5: Grace and peace to you from Him who is, and who was, and who is to come and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful Witness... To Him who loves us and has **FREED US FROM OUR SINS BY HIS BLOOD**!!



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