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*WHAT WILL TAKE PLACE IN THE LAST WEEK AND THE LAST DAY OF THE GREAT TRIBULATION*?
Posted : 29 Sep, 2018 10:47 AM
**WHAT WILL TAKE PLACE IN THE LAST WEEK AND THE LAST DAY OF THE GREAT TRIBULATION**??
Revelation 16:13-16: Then I saw 3 impure spirits that looked like frogs; they came out of the mouth of the Dragon {Satan}, out of the mouth of the Beast {666} and out of the mouth of the False Prophet. They are demonic demons that perform signs, and they go out to the kings of the whole world, to gather them for the battle on the great day of God Almighty! Jesus will say, "Look, I come like thief {To unbelievers}! Blessed is the one who stays awake and remain clothed, so as not to go naked and be shamefully exposed!" Then they gathered the kings to gather to the place called Armageddon! {While the saints in Israel flee to the mountains}
Then these evil armies will travel 77 miles South to Jerusalem where 666 will kill Moses and Elijah at the **HOLY PLACE** right where Jesus was crucified:
Revelation 11:7-10: Now when they {Moses & Elijah} have finished their {1260-day} testimony, the Beast {666} that comes up from the Abyss will attack them, and overpower and kill them. Their bodies will be in the public square of the great city--which is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt--**WHERE ALSO THEIR LORD WAS CRUCIFIED** {The New Holy Place}. For 3 1/2 days some from every people, tribe, language and nation {On Worldwide TV} will gaze on their bodies and refuse them burial. The inhabitants of the earth will gloat over them and will celebrate by sending each other gifts, because these 2 prophets had tormented those who live on the earth.{See Rev 11:6}
Matthew 24:15-21: Jesus says, "So when you see standing in the Holy Place {Where Jesus was Crucified--See Rev 11:8 above} the Abomination that causes Desolation {666} spoken of through the prophet Daniel {In Daniel 9:27b}--let the reader understand--then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Let no one on the housetop go down to take anything out of the house. Let no one in the field go back to get their cloak. How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers. Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath. For then their will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now--and never to be equaled again. If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those {1278 days or 3 1/2 years} will be shortened. {To 1260 Days or 42 30-day months}
Revelation 11:11,12,15,18: {Continued from Rev 11:7-10 above} But after 3 1/2 days the breathe of life from God entered them {Moses & Elijah} and they stood up on their feet, and terror struck those who saw them. For they heard a loud Voice from heaven saying to them, "Come up here." And the went up to heaven in a cloud, while their enemies looked on... Then the 7th angel sounded his {7th & Last} Trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, which will say, "The kingdom of the world has become the Kingdom of our Lord and His Messiah, and He will reign for ever and ever... The time has come for judging the dead, and for rewarding your servants the prophets and your people who revere your name, both great and small--and for destroying those who destroy the earth!"
**ALL* the following things will happen on the **SAME LAST DAY**of the 1260-day Great Tribulation:
{*1*} God's 2 Witnesses who will be killed by 666 will rise from the dead and rise to heaven after a loud voice tells them to **COME UP HERE* as per Revelation 11:7-12.
{*2*} There will amazing signs in the heavens such as the stars falling to earth as per Matthew 24:29. Luke 21:28: Jesus says, "When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near!"
{*3*} The 7th angel will sound the 7th and Last Trumpet as per Revelation 11:15 and I Corinthians 15:52.
{*4*} Jesus will come in the clouds of the heavens with all of his angels as per Matthew 24:30,31 and 2 Thessalonians 1:6-10.
{*5*} All the lost who have died will be awakened to witness the 2nd Coming of Jesus. See Matthew 26:64 and Revelation 1:7: "Look He is coming with the clouds and **EVERY EYE** will see Him, even those who pierced Him!"
{*6*} The angels will gather all the living and dead saints of all ages and they will immediately receive their new heavenly bodies; except for the 24 Elders and the Martyrs who already be AWAKE in heaven with their new heavenly bodies as per I Corinthians 15:50-53 and Revelation 7:9-17!
{*7*} There will then be the Marriage Feast of the Lamb in heaven as per Revelation 19:7,8.
{*8*} Then Jesus will mount a white Horse and all of His saints will follow Him on heavenly white horses as per Revelation 19:9-14 .
{*9*} They will then conquer 666 and His False Prophet and all their armies and 666 and his False Prophet will be thrown **ALIVE** into hell as per Revelation 19:19-21.
{*10*} Fire from heaven will destroy all of Satan's armies and Satan will be thrown alive into hell as per Revelation 20:10.
{*11*} There will then be **JUDGMENT** and the saints will receive their eternal rewards and all the unsaved will then be resurrected and be thrown into hell as per Matthew 25:31-46 and Revelation 21:10-15 and 2 Thessalonians 1:6-10
{*12*} The present heavens and earth will be completely destroyed and disappear as per 2 Peter 3:10-13: But the Day of the Lord will come like a thief {To unbelievers} The heavens will **DISAPPEAR** with a roar, the elements will be destroyed by fire and the earth with everything in it will be burned up... That Day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. But in keeping with His promise **WE** are looking forward to a **NEW HEAVEN** and a **NEW EARTH**, where righteousness dwells!
{*13*} Then the NEW EARTH, the NEW HEAVENS and NEW JERUSALEM will appear!!
{*14*} Revelation 21:1-5: Then I saw a **NEW HEAVEN** and a **NEW EARTH**, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. I saw the Holy City the **NEW JERUSALEM**, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Look! God's dwelling place is now among the people, and He will dwell with them and be their God. He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away." He who was seated on the throne said, "I am making **EVERYTHING NEW**!! Then He said, "Write this down, for these words are **TRUSTWORTHY AND TRUE**!! "
*WHAT WILL TAKE PLACE IN THE LAST WEEK AND THE LAST DAY OF THE GREAT TRIBULATION*?
Posted : 1 Oct, 2018 01:20 PM
**POST-TRIB RESURRECTION VERSUS PRE-TRIB RAPTURE**??
Now the pre-tribbers believe that **ALL** the **CHURCH SAINTS**, dead or alive, will be raptured **BEFORE** the Great Tribulation begins and that the unbelievers will be resurrected **AFTER** the Great Tribulation ends???
**WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY**??
2 Thessalonians 1:1,6-10: To the **CHURCH** of the Thessalonians... God is just: He will pay back trouble to those who trouble you and give relief to you who are troubled, and to us as well. This will happen **WHEN**the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven in blazing fire with His powerful angels {See Matthew 24:29-31 and Matthew 25:31} He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the Gospel of our lord Jesus They will be punished with everlasting destruction and shut out from the presence of the Lord **ON THE DAY HE COMES** to be glorified in His holy people {Including **CHURCH SAINTS**--See Matthew 25:31-46} and to be marveled at among all those who have believed. This includes **YOU**** {Thessalonian **CHURCH SAINTS**}
Pre-Tibbers also claim that the **CHURCH SAINTS** and the Lost will not be resurrected on the same **LAST DAY** of the Great Tribulation??
**BUT WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY**??
John 12:48: Jesus says, "There is a Judge for the one who rejects Me and does not accept My words, that very word which I spoke will condemn him on the **LAST DAY**!" See Matthew 25:31-46; Daniel 12:1,2 and John 5:28}
John 6:40: Jesus says, ""For My Father's will is that **EVERYONE** who looks to the Son and believes in Him {**CHURCH SAINTS**} shall have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the **LAST DAY**!"
So God's Word definitely shows that Jesus will resurrect His saints and judge the lost on the Last Day when He comes **IN GLORY WITH ALL HIS ANGELS**{Matthew 16:27; 24:29,30; 25:31} or **WHEN HE IS REVEALED FROM HEAVEN WITH HIS POWERFUL ANGELS** as per 2 Thessalonians 1:1,6-10!!
John 5:28,29: Jesus says, �Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming {The **LAST DAY**} when *ALL* {Both OT & NT Saints} who are in their graves will hear His voice and come out�those who have done good will rise to live, and those who have done evil will rise to be condemned.�
Daniel 12:1b,2,7b: �There will be a time of distress {The Great Tribulation} such as not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time {The **LAST DAY**} your people--*EVERYONE* whose name is found written in the Book {Both OT & NT Saints}�will be delivered. Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt�It will be for a time. times and half a time {1260 days-Rev 12:6,14, or 42 {30-day} months-Rev 13:5-{Not 7 years} *ALL* these things will be **COMPLETED**.
The pre-tribbers wrongly believe that the OT saints will receive their eternal perfect heavenly bodies 7 years or 1260 days AFTER the Church saints. However, in Hebrews 11:39,40 we read �These {OT super saints mentioned in Heb 11:4-38} were all commended for their faith, yet none of them received what had been promised. God had planned something better for us so that **ONLY TOGETHER WITH US** {NT Saints} would they {OT Saints} be made perfect!�
Pre-Tribbers also claim that the **HOLY SPIRIT WILL BE REMOVED** from all the saints during the Great Tribulation because of a ridiculous interpretation of 2 Thessalonians 2:7???
**BUT WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY**??
Mark 13:11: Jesus says, "Whenever you are arrested and brought to trial {During the Great Tribulation}, do not worry beforehand what to say, but say whatever is given to you at the time, for it is not you speaking, but the **HOLY SPIRIT**!!!"
Pre-Tribbers also claim that the saints will not go through the Great Tribulation because they would then suffer the **WRATH** of God.
**BUT WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY**??
Romans 5:9: Since we have been justified by His blood, how much more shall we be saved from **GOD'S WRATH** through Him!.
I Thessalonians 5:9: God did not appoint us to suffer **WRATH** but to receive salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ!
God's Tribulation saints will not be hurt by **GOD'S WRATH** during the Great Tribulation! The horrific 7 Trumpet Plagues and 7 Bowl Plagues and eternal torment in Hell; are reserved only for the unbelievers and will not hurt God's saints in any way just as the 10 OT Egyptian plagues miraculously did not hurt any of God's people as shown by the following Scripture:
Revelation 9:4-6: They were told to only harm those people who did not have the seal of God on their heads. They were not given power to kill them, but only to torture them for 5 months. During these days men will seek death, but will not find it they will long to die but death will elude them.
Revelation 9:18,20,21: A third of mankind will be killed by the plagues of fire, smoke and sulfur that comes out of their mouths.... The rest of mankind that were not killed by these plagues still did not repent of the work of their hands, they did not stop worshiping demons and idols of gold... Nor did the repent of their murders, their magic arts,their sexual immorality or their thefts!
Revelation 16:2: The first angel went and poured out his bowl on the land, and ugly and painful sores broke out on the people who had the mark of the beast and worshiped his image!
Revelation 16:6: They have shed the blood of your saints and prophets, and You have given them blood to drink as they deserve!
Revelation 16:9: They were seared by the intense heat and cursed the name of God who had control over these plagues, but they refused to repent and glorify Him!
Revelation 16:10: Men gnawed their tongues in agony and cursed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, but they refused to repent of what they had done.
Revelation 14:9,10: If anyone worships the Beast and his image and receives his mark on the forehead or on the hand, he, too, will drink of the wine of God's fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of **HIS WRATH** He will be tormented with burning sulfur...and the smoke of their torment rises for ever and ever!
Pre-Tribbers also claim that all of the Church saints will be raptured **BEFORE **the **MAN OF LAWLESSNESS IS REVEALED**??
**BUT WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY**??
2 Thessalonians 2:1-3, 8: Concerning the **COMING*** of our Lord Jesus and **OUR** {CHURCH SAINTS} being gathered to Him, we ask you brothers, not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by some prophecy, report or letter, supposed to have come from us, saying that the Day of the Lord has already come . Don't let anyone {Like Pre-Tribbers} deceive you in any way, for **THAT DAY WILL NOT COME** **UNTIL THE MAN OF LAWLESSNESS IS REVEALED**!..... The lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of His mouth and destroy by the splendor **OF HIS COMING**!! {On the **LAST DAY** of the Great Tribulation**} It is interesting to note that the only **COMING** of the Lord Jesus when the **CHURCH SAINTS** are gathered to Him; mentioned in 2 Thessalonians 2:1 and 2:8; is on the **LAST DAY** of the Great Tribulation!!
I Peter 1:13: �Therefore, prepare your minds for ACTION, and set your hope *FULLY* on the grace to be given YOU when Jesus Christ is **REVEALED**.
I Corinthians 1:7: �**YOU** do not lack any spiritual gift as **YOU** {CHURCH SAINTS**} eagerly wait for our Lord Jesus Christ to be **REVEALED**.
Now the pre-tribbers claim that the glorious **REVEALING** or *REVELATION* of Jesus will be *CONCEALED* BEFORE the beginning of the Great Tribulation. However, every other time the Word **REVEALED** {Greek-Apocalypsis} is used related to resurrection events it refers to the glorious **REVEALING** of Jesus on the **LAST DAY** of the Great Tribulation {See 2 Thess 1:7-10 & Luke 17:26-31}. And *CONCEALED* is the exact opposite of **REVEALED** and **APPEARED** according to every dictionary! The Word of God clearly shows that the **CHURCH SAINTS** are waiting The **APPEARING** and **REVEALING ** of our Lord Jesus Christ which completely contradicts the Pre-Trib theory that the **CHURCH SAINTS ** are all waiting for a **CONCEALED RAPTURE**???
Titus 2:13 **WE** {**CHURCH SAINTS**} wait for the **BLESSED HOPE**---the glorious **APPEARING** of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ!!
Hebrews 9:28: Jesus will **APPEAR** a 2nd time {And not a 3rd TIME!} to bring salvation **TO THOSE WHO ARE WAITING FOR HIM**!!
Colossians 3:4: When Christ, who is your life **APPEARS**, then **YOU** {**CHURCH SAINTS**} also will **APPEAR** with Him in glory.�
I John 3:2,3: �When Jesus **APPEARS**, **WE** {**CHURCH SAINTS**} shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is. Everyone who has this hope in Him purifies himself, just as He is pure!!�
Matthew 24:29,30: Jesus says, �IMMEDIATELY AFTER the distress of those days {The Great Tribulation} the sun will be darkened and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky. At that time the sign of the Son of Man will **APPEAR** in the sky and the nations will see the Son of Man **COMING** on the clouds of the sky with power and great glory!!�
I John 2:28: �Dear children, continue in Him, so that when He *APPEARS* **WE** {**CHURCH SAINTS**} may be confident and unashamed before Him at His COMING!� {See 2 Thess 1:7-10; I Tim 6:14; Heb 9:28 & Col 3:4}
2 Tim 4:8: Paul said, There is in store for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will award to me on THAT DAY�and not only to me, but to *ALL* {**CHURCH SAINTS**} who have longed for His **APPEARING**!!� {See Matt 24:30 above!!}
I Peter 5:4: �When the Chief Shepherd **APPEARS**, **YOU** {**CHURCH SAINTS**} will receive the crown of glory that will never fade away!�
2 Thess 1:1,6-10: �To the *CHURCH* of the Thessalonians�God is just; He will pay back trouble to those who trouble you and give relief to you who are troubled, and to us as well. This will happen *WHEN* the Lord Jesus is **REVEALED** {See I Peter 1:13} from heaven in blazing fire�. He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. They will be punished with everlasting destruction and shut out from the presence of the Lord **ON THE DAY HE COMES** to be glorified in His holy people {**CHURCH SAINTS**}!! This includes **YOU** {Thessalonian ^^CHURCH SAINTS**}
Now the Pre-Tribbers claim that all the resurrection versus on the second coming of Jesus will occur on the **LAST DAY** of the Great Tribulation **EXCEPT for I Thessalonians 4;16-18 and I Corinthians 15:51,52 which tells of a secret silent rapture just before the Great Tribulation when 666 is revealed???
**BUT WHAT DOES THESE VERSES REALLY TEACH**??
I Corinthians 15:51,52: Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we **ALL** will be changed--in the twinkling of an eye, at the **LAST TRUMPET**. For the **TRUMPET** will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable and **WE** will be changed!
Revelation 8:1,2: When He {Jesus} opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven for about half an hour. And I saw 7 angels who stand before God and to them were given **7 TRUMPETS**!
Revelation 11:15,18: The seventh {And **LAST**} angel sounded his {**7TH & LAST**} **TRUMPET**, and there were loud voices in heaven, which said: "The kingdom of the world has become the Kingdom of our Lord and His Christ, and He will reign for ever and ever... The time has come for judging the dead, and rewarding your servants and your saints who reverence your name and for destroying those who destroy the earth!"
And so the 7th angel will sound the 7th and **LAST TRUMPET** of Revelation on the **LAST DAY** of the Great Tribulation! and certainly not **BEFORE** the Great Tribulation even begins!!
I Thessalonians 4:16,17; 5:2,4: For the Lord Himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel {See Rev 14:15} and with the **TRUMPET**{See Matt 24:30 & Rev 11:15,18 & I Cor 15:52} call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the **CLOUDS** {See Matt 24:30 and Rev 14:14} to meet the Lord in the air.... The **DAY OF THE LORD** {In I Cor 4:17 above} will come like a thief in the night {To unbelievers} While people are saying, "Peace and safety," destruction will come on them {Unbelievers} suddenly {On the **SAME DAY** as the Resurrection in I Cor 4:17 above!!}... But **YOU** {**CHURCH SAINTS**} brothers, are not in darkness so that **THIS DAY** should surprise you like a thief. You are **ALL** sons of the light and sons of the Day. We do not belong to the night or to the darkness!
Revelation 3:3: Jesus says, "Remember, therefore, what you have received and heard; obey it and repent. But if you do not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what time I will **COME TO YOU**!"
Once the 1260-day Great Tribulation begins all of God's saints who can add will know the exact day of the Second Coming of Jesus on the Last Day. And when the stars start falling to earth the saints will know the exact hour of the Second Coming of Jesus!!
Matthew 24:29-31: Jesus says, "Immediately after the distress of those {1260} days the sun will be darkened, and the stars will fall from the sky {Luke 21:28 adds: "When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near!!"} At that time the sign of the Son of Man coming on the **CLOUDS** {See I Thess 4:17} of the sky, with power and great glory. And He will send His angels with a loud **TRUMPET** {See I Cor 15:52 & I Thess 4::16 & Rev 11:15,18} call an they will gather His **ELECT** {See Rom 11:5-7; 2 Tim 2:10 & Titus 1:1!}} from the 4 winds, from one end of the heavens to the other!" {Mark 13:27 adds: "From the ends of the earth."}
Now the Pre-Tribbers claim that the **ELECT OF JESUS** mentioned in Matthew 24:31 are all OT Jewish saints and not **CHURCH SAINTS**.
**BUT WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY**??
Romans 11:5-7: At the present time there is a remnant **CHOSEN** by grace. And if by grace, then it is no longer by works, if it were, grace would no longer be grace! What then? What Israel sought so earnestly it did not obtain, but the **ELECT** did!
2 Timothy 2:10: Therefore I endure everything for the sake of the **ELECT** {**CHURCH SAINTS**}, that they too may obtain the **SALVATION THAT IS IN CHRIST JESUS**!
Titus 1:1: Paul, a servant of God and an apostle of Jesus Christ for the faith of God's **ELECT** {**CHURCH SAINTS**}!
Ephesians 3:6: This mystery is that through the Gospel the Gentiles are **HEIRS TOGETHER**with Israel. Members together of **ONE BODY**, and **SHARERS TOGETHER**in the promise in Christ Jesus!!
John 6:39,44: Jesus says, "And this is the will of Him who sent Me that I shall lose none of all that He has given Me {God's **ELECT**}, but raise them up at the **LAST DAY**... No one can come to Me **UNLESS** the Father **DRAWS** him, and I will raise him {**GOD'S ELECT**} up at the **LAST DAY**!"
John 12:48: Jesus says, "There is a Judge for the one who rejects Me and does not accept My words, that very word which I spoke will condemn him at the **LAST DAY**!"
It is interesting to note that a pre-trib rapture fairy tale of God's saints is not mentioned even **ONCE** in the Olivet Prophetic sermon of Jesus in Matthew 24,25, Mark 13 and Luke 21 and not even **ONCE** in all the prophecies in the book of Revelation. Now the Pre-Tribbers agree that it is completely ridiculous not to have any mention of the resurrection of the **CHURCH SAINTS** in the prophetic book of Revelation.. And so the pre tribbers claim that Revelation 4:1-2 symbolically somehow shows the rapture of the **CHURCH SAINTS** since John's entrance into heaven before the Tribulation somehow shows the rapture.
Revelation 4:1-2: John said, "After this I looked, and there before me was a door standing open in heaven. And the voice I had heard speaking to me like a trumpet said, 'Come up here, and I will show you what must take place after this.'" Now the pre-tribbers claim that John going up to heaven in AD 96, to see what will happen in the future; somehow represents all the living and dead **CHURCH SAINTS** being raptured just before the Great Tribulation which is ridiculous!!
The Last Day resurrections in Revelation 11:15-18 and Revelation 14:14-20 are obviously Post-Trib. And just after the Marriage Feast of the Lamb Jesus will mount a white horse and his saints will follow Him on white horses and they will conquer 666, his False Prophet, their kings and armies on the same Last Day as per Revelation 19:7-21 and Revelation 17:14: They will make war against the **LAMB** but the **LAMB** will overcome them because He is Lord of lords and King of kings--and with Him will be His **CALLED**, ** CHOSEN** and **FAITHFUL** followers!!
Now the Pre-Tribbers teach that the Church saints must have been raptured before The Great Tribulation began since the word **CHURCH ** is not mentioned in Revelation chapters 4-21 and therefore the Great Tribulation will not be **FOR THE CHURCHES OR CHURCH SAINTS**???
**BUT WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY**??
Revelation 22:16,18-20: "I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony {**ALL OF REVELATION**}**FOR THE CHURCHES**.{**CHURCH SAINTS**}.. I warn everyone who hears the word of the prophecy of this book. If anyone **ADDS** {Like the Pre-Trib Rapture} anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. And if anyone **TAKES WORDS AWAY** from this book of prophecy. God will take away from him his share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The New Jerusalem}, which are described in this book!!"
Revelation 1:1-3: The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show **HIS SERVANTS** {**CHURCH SAINTS**} what must take place. He made it known by sending His angel to His servant John, who testifies to everything he saw--that is, the Word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ. Blessed is the one who reads the Words of this Prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it and **TAKE TO HEART** what is written in it!!
The fact that John Nelson Darby invented the pre-tribulation rapture doctrine around 1830 AD is unquestionably true. All attempts to find evidence of this wild doctrine before 1830 have failed, with a single exception: Morgan Edwards wrote a short essay as a college paper for Bristol Baptist College in Bristol England in 1744 where he confused the second coming with the first resurrection of Revelation 20 and described a "pre-tribulation" rapture. However Edwards ideas, which he admitted were brand new and never before taught, had no influence in the modern population of the false doctrine. That prize goes to Darby.
Charles Haddon Spurgeon, Pastor of the Metropolitan Tabernacle and contemporary of Darby, published criticism of Darby and Brethrenism. His main criticism was that Darby and the Plymouth Brethren rejected the vicarious purpose of Christ's obedience as well as imputed righteousness. He viewed these of such importance and so central to the Gospel that it led him to this statement about the rest of their belief.
"Mr. Grant on the Darby Brethren" by Charles Spurgeon from the June 1860 "Sword and the Trowel":
James Grant wrote: "Mr. Darby maintains that a part of Christ's sufferings on the cross, were what he calls 'non-atoning,' that is, that in 'smiting' him as the shepherd on the cross, God did not do so with a view to an atonement for our sins, until a particular point of time, while Christ was hanging on the tree, and that then the wrath of God, in its atoning character, coalesced with his legal wrath. In association with the doctrine that much of the sufferings of Christ on the cross were without any atoning object or effect, Mr. Darby, advancing a step farther, denies that the atonement for our sins consisted even in Christ's death. But as it is probable some persons will find it difficult to believe that any man, professing to hold evangelical principles, and especially the leader of an important religious sect, also professing to be sound in the faith, could entertain such notions."
James Grant wrote: "With the deadly heresies entertained and taught by the Plymouth Brethren, in relation to some of the most momentous of all the doctrines of the Gospel, and to which I have adverted at some length, I feel assured that my readers will not be surprised at any other views, however unscriptural and pernicious they may be, which the Darbyites have embraced and zealously seek to propagate"
Prior to 1830, **NOT EVEN ONE CHURCH** taught the pre-trib rapture in their creed, catechism or statement of faith!!!
NOTE: There will be 2 Comings of Jesus on the **SAME LAST DAY**. The first Coming will be **FOR HIS SAINTS** and the 2nd Coming **WITH HIS SAINTS** **RIDING ON WHITE HORSES** right after the Marriage Feast of the **LAMB**!!
Revelation 19:6-8,11,13,14,19,20: Hallelujah! For the Lord God Almighty reigns. Let us rejoice and be glad and give Him glory! For the wedding of the **LAMB** has come and His bride has made herself ready. Fine linen, bright and clean was given her to wear.... I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose Rider is called Faithful and True...He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood and His name is the Word of God. **THE ARMIES OF HEAVEN WERE FOLLOWING HIM ***RIDING ON WHITE HORSES*** and dressed in fine linen white and clean (See Rev 19:8 above}... Then I saw the beast and the kings of the earth **AND THEIR ARMIES** gathered together to make war against the rider on the horse and His army. But the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who had performed the miraculous signs on his behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who received the mark of the beast and worshiped his image. {See Rev 13:11-17} The two of them were thrown **ALIVE** into the fiery lake of burning sulfur. Rev 20:10: And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.{Just like all their followers as per Rev 14:9-11}
Revelation 17:14: They will make war against the **LAMB**, but the **LAMB** will overcome them because He is Lord of lords and King of kings, and with Him will be His **CALLED**, **CHOSEN** {**HIS ELECT**} and **FAITHFUL** followers!! {**RIDING ON FLYING WHITE HORSES** which will be the saints transportation in the **NEW EARTH*.
Jude 14,15: "See, the Lord is coming with thousands upon thousands of His holy ones {**HIS ELECT** Riding White Horses} to judge everyone, and to convict **ALL** the ungodly!!"
I Corinthians 15:22-24: For as in Adam all die, so in Christ **ALL** will be made alive. But each in his own turn: Christ, the Firstfruits; **THEN WHEN HE COMES** those who belong to Him. **THEN THE **END** WILL COME** {Not 1260 days later!!}, when He hands over the Kingdom to God the Father!!
And so the saints will be resurrected on the** LAST DAY** and then **AFTER** the Marriage Feast of the **LAMB**, the lost will be resurrected later on the **SAME LAST DAY**. And so this explains Matthew 24:40: Jesus says, "Two will be in the field, one will be taken and the other left. Two women will be grinding with a hand mill one will be taken and the other left!"
Matthew 25:31-34,41,46: Jesus says, "**WHEN** the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the angels with Him. He will sit on His throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him and He will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. He will put the sheep on His right and the goats on His left. Then the King will say to those on His right, 'Come, you who are blessed by My Father, take your inheritance the Kingdom prepared for you.'... Then He will say to those on His left, 'Depart from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal for prepared for the devil and his angels.' ... Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."
Now the Pre-Tribbers love to quote a promise made to the Church at Philadelphia in AD 96:
Revelation 3:1,10: Jesus said, "To the angel of the church at Philadelphia write... Since you have kept My command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going that is going to come on the whole {Roman} world to test those who live on the earth."
In Ad 96 the Roman Caesar, Domitian, decreed that everyone in the Roman world must worship idols of former Roman Caesars or else they would be killed or put in prison. And because of this decree John was put in prison in AD 96 on the Isle of Patmos as per Revelation 1:9.
However, Jesus did not make the same promise to the future Great Tribulation saints:
Matthew 24:9: Jesus says, "**THEN****YOU** will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and **YOU** will be hated by **ALL NATIONS** because of Me!"
Revelation 13:5-10: The Beast will be given authority for 42 {30-day} months...He will be given power to make war against the **SAINTS** and to conquer them. And he will be given authority over **EVERY** tribe, people language and **NATION** All inhabitants of the earth will worship the Beast--all whose names have not been written in the Book of Life belonging to the **LAMB**{**CHURCH SAINTS**}. He who has an ear let him hear: If anyone is to go into captivity, into captivity he will go. If anyone is to be killed with the sword, with the sword he will be killed. This calls for patient endurance on the part of the **SAINTS**!
Revelation 12:11: They overcame him by the blood of the **LAMB** and by the word of their testimony: They did not love their lives so much as to shrink from death!! {Just Like Jesus!}! Read Revelation 6:9-11 and Revelation 7:9,13-15!!!
Revelation 6:9-11: When He {Jesus} opened the 5th seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain {MARTYRS LIKE JESUS} because of the word of God and the testimony they had maintained. They called out in a loud voice, How long, Sovereign Lord, holy and true, until you judge the inhabitants of the earth and avenge our blood? Then each of them were given a WHITE ROBE, and they were told to wait a little longer, until the number of their fellow servants and brothers who were to be killed {**TRIBULATION MARTYRS**} as they had been was **COMPLETED**.
This was **COMPLETED** just before the 7 trumpet plagues in Revelation 8:
Revelation 7:9,13-15,17: After this I looked and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from **EVERY NATION, TRIBE, PEOPLE AND LANGUAGE** standing before the throne and in front of the Lamb {Jesus} They were wearing WHITE ROBES. And they cried out in a loud voice, "Salvation belongs to our God, who sits on the throne , and to the Lamb...Then one of the {24} **ELDERS** asked me, "Those in WHITE ROBES--who are they, and where did they come from?" And he said, "These are they who have come out of the *GREAT TRIBULATION* {*MARTYRS LIKE JESUS*}, they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the **LAMB** {**CHURCH SAINTS**}. Therefore, They are before the throne of God and serve Him day and night in His temple...The **LAMB** in the center of the throne will be their Shepherd!"
And so the Pre-Trib teaching that the Great Tribulation is only a **TIME OF JACOB'S TROUBLE** is a complete fairy tale since there will be a "**GREAT MULTITUDE THAT NO ONE COULD COUNT FROM **EVERY** NATION, TRIBE, PEOPLE AND LANGUAGE**" who will be **MARTYRED** during the Great Tribulation!! They will be all filled with the **HOLY SPIRIT** {Mark 13:11} and washed in the blood of the **LAMB** {Rev 7::15 & 12:11} and whose names are written in the **LAMB'S** Book of Life as per Revelation 13:8!!
The Great Tribulation **MARTYRS** who are **AWAKE** in heaven are mentioned over 20 times during the 1260-day Great Tribulation in Revelation 6:9-11; 7:9,10,13-17; 12:11; 13:10; 14:13; 15:2-4; 16:7; 16:24 and 19:2!!
Revelation 4:4 Surrounding God's throne were **24 OTHER THRONES**, on seated on them were **24 ELDERS**. They were dressed in *WHITE* and had crowns of Gold on their heads!
Th 24 Elders on 24 Thrones surrounding God's throne are mentioned 10 times during the 1260-day Great Tribulation in Revelation 4:4,10; 5:6,8.11,14; 7:11,13; 14:3 and 19:4
**WHO ARE THE 24 ELDERS ON 24 THRONES SURROUNDING GOD'S THRONE IN HEAVEN DURING THE 1260-DAY GREAT TRIBULATION**??
Matthew 19:28: Jesus said to his Apostles, "I tell you the truth, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on His glorious throne, you have **FOLLOWED ME** {The Apostle Paul instead of Judas] will **ALSO SIT ON 12 THRONES, **JUDGING**!!
Luke 22:29,30: Jesus said to His Apostles, "I confer on you a Kingdom, just as My Father conferred one on Me, so that you may eat and drink at My table in My Kingdom and sit on **THRONES**, **JUDGING**!!"
**WHO DESERVES TO SIT ON THE OTHER 12 THRONES SURROUNDING GOD'S THRONE**??
And certainly 12 OT Super saints of God will also deserve sitting on the other **12 **THRONES** surrounding God's throne such as Abraham, David, Moses, Elijah, Daniel, Isaiah, Samuel, Jeremiah, Joseph , Joshua, Noah and Enoch!!
The 24 **ELDERS** on 24 thrones and the **MARTYRS** are the ***ONLY SAINTS*** mentioned in heaven during the Great Tribulation in Revelation chapters 4 through 18!!
I Corinthians 15:51,52: Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all *SLEEP*{Since the Martyrs and 24 Elders on Thrones are **AWAKE**} but we will all be changed--in a flash, in a twinkling of an eye, at the Last {7TH} Trumpet!!
It is interesting to note that the millions of **CHURCH SAINTS** of the last almost 2,000 years; who the pre-tribbers claim were raptured into heaven with new heavenly bodies just before the Great Tribulation; and would be before God's throne with Jesus. They are not even mentioned **ONCE** during the Great Tribulation in heaven in chapters 4 thru 18. The only saints mentioned in Revelation during the Great Tribulation are the **MARTYRS** {20 times} and the **24 ELDERS** {10 times} who sit on 24 Thrones surrounding God's Throne in heaven!! Hmmm!!
However, most of the Pre-Trib super theologians {???} claim that the 24 Elders who sit on 24 Thrones surrounding God's throne as per Rev 4:4; are really millions of raptured **CHURCH SAINTS**?????
Probably the best way to convert a pre-tribber is to have them read 2 Thessalonians 1,6-10 every day for 7 days; since God's Word shows that the **CHURCH SAINTS** will be resurrected and judged **ON THE SAME DAY** as the lost!!
2 Thessalonians 1:1,6-10: �To the **CHURCH** of the Thessalonians� God is just; He will pay back trouble to those who trouble you and give relief to you who are troubled, and to us as well. This will happen *WHEN* the Lord Jesus is **REVEALED** {See I Peter 1:13} from heaven in blazing fire�. He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. They will be punished with everlasting destruction and shut out from the presence of the Lord **ON THE DAY HE COMES** to be glorified in His holy people {**CHURCH SAINTS**}!! This includes **YOU** {Thessalonian *CHURCH SAINTS*}
As we have shown with countless Scripture all of the Great Tribulation saints will be saved by the **BLOOD OF THE LAMB**{Rev 7:14; 12:11}, are in the **LAMB'S BOOK OF LIFE**{Rev 13:8}; are filled with the **HOLY SPIRIT**{Mark 13:11} and whenever 2 or more of these extremely brave and courageous Tribulation saints get together to worship you have a ***CHURCH***!!
God has always allowed His people to **SUFFER TRIBULATION** and trials because they purify and perfect their faith and will gain countless eternal rewards when Jesus Christ is *REVEALED. There are over 40,000 saints martyred every year and the main culprit is no longer just Islam and the RC Church. Millions of saints were martyred by the Communist atheist countries after 1917 in Russia and after 1948 in China and then in North Korea and Vietnam. Many more millions were killed by Japan 1937-1945 and by the Fascists in Italy and Germany 1922-1945.
**THE FOLLOWING VERSES CAN NOT BE FOUND IN THE PRE-TRIB BIBLE**!!
Romans 8:35-37: �Who shall separate us from the love of Christ?... For your sake **WE FACE DEATH ALL DAY LONG**; we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered. No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us!�
John 13:34: Jesus says, "A **NEW COMMAND** I give you: **LOVE* one another As I have **LOVED** you, so you must **LOVE** one another. By this all men will know that you are my disciples." John 15:12,13: Jesus says, "My command is this: **LOVE** each other as I have **LOVED** you. Greater **LOVE** has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends. I John 3:16: This is how we know what **LOVE** is: Jesus Christ laid down His life for us. And we ought to l**LAY DOWN OUR LIVES** for our brothers!
John 3:16: This how we know what **LOVE** is: Jesus Christ laid down His life for us. And we ought to lay down our lives for our brothers!
I Peter 2:20b,21: But if you **SUFFER FOR DOING GOOD** and endure it, this is commendable before God. To this you were called, because Christ suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow **IN HIS STEPS**!
I Peter 4:12,13: �Dear friends, do not be surprised at the painful trial you are suffering, as though something strange were happening to you. But **REJOICE THAT YOU PARTICIPATE IN THE SUFFERINGS OF CHRIST**, so that you may be overjoyed when His glory is *REVEALED!�
Matthew 5:10-12 Jesus says, �Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of Heaven. Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. **REJOICE** and be glad, because **GREAT IS YOUR REWARD** in heaven!!"
2 Timothy 3:12: �In fact, **EVERYONE** who wants to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted!�
Romans 5:3: �But we **REJOICE IN OUR SUFFERINGS** because we know that suffering produces perseverance; perseverance, character; and character, hope!
Philippians 1:29: For it has been granted to you on behalf of Christ not only to believe on Him, but also to **SUFFER FOR HIM**!
Philippians 3:10: �I want to know Christ and the power of His resurrection and the fellowship of **SHARING IN HIS SUFFERINGS**!
Revelation 12:11: �They overcame him {666} by the **BLOOD OF THE LAMB** {**CHURCH SAINTS**} and by the word of their testimony; for they did not love their lives so much as to shrink from death!�
Rev 2:10: Jesus says, �Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you the **CROWN OF LIFE**.�
Matthew 24:3,9-13: The disciples {**CHURCH SAINTS**} asked Jesus, �What will be the sign of your Coming and the end of the age?? Jesus answered�.. {During the Great Tribulation} �Then **YOU** will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and **YOU** will be hated by all nations because of Me. At that time many will turn away from the Faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of *MOST* will grow cold, {THE GREAT APOSTASY} but he {The Called, Chosen & Faithful-Rev 17:14b} who stands firm to the End will be saved.�
It is interesting to note Jesus told His disciples what would take place just before the Great Tribulation In Matthew 24:4-8 and a Pre-Trib Rapture is **NOT MENTIONED** and then Jesus said in Matthew 24:9 "**THEN** {During the Great Tribulation} **YOU** {**CHURCH SAINTS**} will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, an you will be hated by all nations because of Me. At that time many will turn away from the Faith!" {**THE GREAT APOSTASY**}
This *GREAT APOSTASY** at the beginning of the Great Tribulation is called a **REBELLION** in 2 Thess 2:3!
Revelation 13:5,7-10: The Beast will be given authority for 42 months.. He will be given power to make war against the **SAINTS** and to conquer them... All inhabitants of the earth will worship the Beast--all whose names have not been written in the Book of Life belonging to the **LAMB**. {**CHURCH SAINTS**} He who has an ear let him hear: If anyone is to go into captivity, into captivity he will go. If anyone is to be killed with the sword with the sword he will be killed. This calls for patient endurance on the part of the **SAINTS**!
Revelation 14:12,13: This calls for patient endurance on the part of the **SAINTS** who obey God's {NT} commandments and remain faithful to Jesus! {**CHURCH SAINTS**} Then I heard a Voice from heaven say, "**BLESSED** are the dead who die in the Lord from now on!" *Yes," says the Spirit, "They will rest from their labor, for their deeds will follow them!"
This will come as a tremendous shock for those who teach the Prosperity Gospel and who are mainly seeking earthly treasures rather than eternal Heavenly Rewards. They teach: If you accept Jesus as your Savior you have a free pass to Heaven and God forbid that you should suffer any persecution or go through the Great Tribulation; which fits in with the Prosperity Gospel doctrines which are designed to increase church membership at the expense of the Truth. When is the last time you heard a sermon on the virtues and courage of the many thousands of present-day martyrs?? And this is probably why there will be a great FALLING AWAY {THE GREAT APOSTASY} at the beginning of the Great Tribulation as per Matthew 24:10-12!!
Romans 8:35,37-39: Who shall separate us from the **LOVE** of Christ? Shall trouble or hardship or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword?...We are more than conquerors through Him who **LOVED** us! For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the **LOVE** of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord!!
Isaiah 46:9-11: "I am God, and there is no other. I am God, and there is none like Me! I make known the end from the beginning, from ancient times, what is still to come... What I have said, that will I bring about; what I have planned that will I do!!"
*WHAT WILL TAKE PLACE IN THE LAST WEEK AND THE LAST DAY OF THE GREAT TRIBULATION*?
Posted : 26 Nov, 2018 04:20 AM
Great work on tribulation, Jesus came to earth and the earth didn't notice, yet the earth was destroyed by the secret judgement of the Lord. The SAME judgement is being unfolded now, even more unknown because there is little faith and because there are lots of deceivers, if we look we cant miss the tribulation of deceit now, it is demonstrating itself..
Confess your faithless sins and prayer without faith or show how you say one thing then do another.Cannot confess what God says the things we are not ashamed of without fruits of the Spirit...EXPOSED...FINISHED..
Romans 6:20 For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness.
21 WHAT HAD YE THEN IN THOSE THINGS WHEREOF YE ARE NOW ASHAMED? for the end of those things is death.
Prophetic has no shame..
Jude 1:13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.
1 Timothy 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
Luke 11:46 And he said, Woe unto you also, ye lawyers! for ye lade men with burdens grievous to be borne, and ye yourselves touch not the burdens with one of your fingers.
Matthew 23:5 But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments,
More empty reasoning out of context, and here are more satanic quotes according to the understanding" of the deceivers names in the last days...prophets.
The head of the man of God is Christ, what is the point in having any crown when we have a head given to us? salvation is saved from death to life, and any crown is a crown of life, that is the promise of the Lord. The same crown of righteousness, and that reward for righteousness is God, as the reward He gives us is His judgement in the earth. The Lord is our crown of glory.....
1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
James 1:12 Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him.
Revelation 2:10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.
2 Timothy 4:8 Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.
Psalm 58:11 So that a man shall say, Verily there is a reward for the righteous: verily he is a God that judgeth in the earth.
Isaiah 28:5 In that day shall the Lord of hosts be for a crown of glory, and for a diadem of beauty, unto the residue of his people,
The reward is the same salvation, the only sure reward, everlasting life and all other rewards mean zero if you are dead forever. The reward is when your expectation/life is not cut off. The blessing is life for evermore, there is no other blessing. No reward to evil men, they are destroyed forever, they receive not the reward of life. There is no more reward for the wicked, the memory of him is forgotten as he received not the reward of eternal life...
Proverbs 11:18 The wicked worketh a deceitful work: but to him that soweth righteousness shall be a sure reward.
Proverbs 24:14 So shall the knowledge of wisdom be unto thy soul: when thou hast found it, then there shall be a reward, and thy expectation shall not be cut off.
Psalm 133:3 As the dew of Hermon, and as the dew that descended upon the mountains of Zion: for there the Lord commanded the blessing, even life for evermore.
Proverbs 24:20 For there shall be no reward to the evil man; the candle of the wicked shall be put out.
Ecclesiastes 9:5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
The rebellious follow after rewards,they reward evil to themselves and evil=eternal destruction, the righteous eat reward of Holiness, that fruit of the Spirit as there is nothing else to receive, they received all, already..
Isaiah 1:23 Thy princes are rebellious, and companions of thieves: every one loveth gifts, and followeth after rewards: they judge not the fatherless, neither doth the cause of the widow come unto them.
Isaiah 3:9 The shew of their countenance doth witness against them; and they declare their sin as Sodom, they hide it not. Woe unto their soul! for they have rewarded evil unto themselves.
10 Say ye to the righteous, that it shall be well with him: for they shall eat the fruit of their doings.
11 Woe unto the wicked! it shall be ill with him: for the reward of his hands shall be given him.
When Christ came to earth, he brought the work of the Lord and the reward of the Spirit of life already, feeding the lambs with righteousness(they thirst for nothing else) and the Lord did all not for reward but through love which seeks not her on but for you, the God is Israel will be your reward, the Lord shall be your reward as you walk in Is righteous Spirit, and it is declared to us, thy SALVATION cometh, His REWARD IS WITH HIM, and the deceivers of the world do all for reward, and still insist the Lord is with them for their evil denying and not teaching the righteousness of the cross..
Isaiah 40:10 Behold, the Lord God will come with strong hand, and his arm shall rule for him: behold, his reward is with him, and his work before him.
11 He shall feed his flock like a shepherd: he shall gather the lambs with his arm, and carry them in his bosom, and shall gently lead those that are with young.
Isaiah 45:13 I have raised him up in righteousness, and I will direct all his ways: he shall build my city, and he shall let go my captives, not for price nor reward, saith the Lord of hosts.
Isaiah 52:12 For ye shall not go out with haste, nor go by flight: for the Lord will go before you; and the God of Israel will be your reward.
Isaiah 58:8 Then shall thy light break forth as the morning, and thine health shall spring forth speedily: and thy righteousness shall go before thee; the glory of the Lord shall be thy reward.
Isaiah 62:11 Behold, the Lord hath proclaimed unto the end of the world, Say ye to the daughter of Zion, Behold, thy salvation cometh; behold, his reward is with him, and his work before him.
Micah 3:11 The heads thereof judge for reward, and the priests thereof teach for hire, and the prophets thereof divine for money: yet will they lean upon the Lord, and say, Is not the Lord among us? none evil can come upon us.
Now prophetic confirms that His reward is with Him, Christ gives the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of life to those who believe and those who believe no receive not the Spirit of life..
Revelation 22:12 Jesus says, �Behold I am coming soon! My **REWARD** is with Me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done!�
Luke 18:20-25: Jesus said to the rich man, "You still lack one thing. Sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have **TREASURE IN HEAVEN**. Then come, **FOLLOW ME**. When he heard this he became very sad, because he was very wealthy. Jesus looked at him and said, "How hard it is for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God! Indeed, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle then for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God!"
Prophetic here wants us to believe that a rich mans lusts is encouraged more by God giving riches also of treasure. Or the treasure is in us, the Spirit of life that bears love joy and peace which rich believing people don't want and go away from that idea..
"NOTE: In addition to eternal life Jesus also promised the rich man eternal **ETERNAL TREASURES IN HEAVEN**"
Now prophetic pushes praying to be forgiven. But by the hope of the resurrection of the just, we cant pray for what we do and fulfill, by having always a conscience that is no WITHOUT OFFENCE to God and man..
Acts 24:15 And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust.
16 And herein do I exercise myself, to have always a conscience void to offence toward God, and toward men.
How do you pray to be always forgiven when it is a GOOD CONSCIENCE that SAVES us now?
1 Peter 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
22 Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.
PRAY ALWAYS, not to be forgiven for the wrong we do and the failure we are, but for what? PRAY ALWAYS TO BE ACCOUNTED WORTHY
Luke 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
PRAY ALWAYS TO BE COUNTED WORTHY OF THE CALLING, THAT THE NAME OF CHRIST IS GLORIFIED IN US BY NO LONGER FALLING SHORT OF THE GLORY AS TOLD
2 Thessalonians 1:11 Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of his goodness, and the work of faith with power:
12 That the name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified in you, and ye in him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.
We pray to be forgiven for failing or we pray to stop falling short of the Lords glory and now pray the newer way of CALLED, JUSTIFIED AND GLORIFIED..
Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;..
Romans 8:30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
When a believer eats and drinks unworthily(as above we pray to walk worthy of God not pray always failing nonsense) and then we get sickly by not discerning the Lords body. So when sick it is in the sins we do by not being worthy of the Lord, and the prayer of faith can bring healing, and when judged of the Lord we are chastened to not repeat those sins, otherwise we will never be worthy of the Lords calling or be justified or glorified..
1 Corinthians 11:29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.
30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.
31 For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.
32 But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.
James 5:14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:
15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.
Include all information not leave it out like the deceiver likes to, and we see, the sinner is not yet converted from the errror of his ways, and the liar says you only need to pray for your sins, but the key word is converted, and be as little children is the conversion to enter the kingdom of Heaven humbled and obedient, as we can read..
James 5:19 Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him;
20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.
1 Peter 1:14 As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance:
15 But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation;
16 Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.
Matthew 18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Philippians 2:15 That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;
1 Thessalonians 5:23 And the very God of peace SANCTIFY YOU WHOLLY; AND I PRAY GOD YOUR WHOLE SPIRIT AND SOUL AND BODY BE PRESERVED BLAMELESS UNTO THE COMING OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST.
Romans 6:20 For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness.
21 WHAT HAD YE THEN IN THOSE THINGS WHEREOF YE ARE NOW ASHAMED? for the end of those things is death.
Prophetic has no shame..
Jude 1:13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.
1 Timothy 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
