Author	Thread: babies
Admin	babies Posted : 26 Aug, 2010 09:11 PM Just out of curiosity: 1. How many children do you want? 2. Would you date and/or marry someone who wanted a different # of children than you do? Would you try to compromise or is that a dealbreaker? 3. Would you adopt? 4. Would you leave your wife if she got pregnant after the 2 of you agreed to not have children? 5. Would you leave your wife if you agreed to have children but then she couldn't get pregnant or carry a baby to term? Post Reply
View Profile History	babies Posted : 28 Aug, 2010 12:06 PM I honestly don't know why you're trying to convince me about the necessity of limitting the # of children. I myself am not going to have 20 of them. But I am not going to hurt my own or my husband's body in order to prevent creating a new life! What I'm saying is that we need to let God work within us and through us. It's all about trust. If you have prayed about it a lot and talked it through with your pastor and future spouse, and all three of them are fine with vasectomy/sterilization then go for it. It's your life and your conscience after all. Blessings, Marianna Post Reply
skinnywhiteboy View Profile History	babies Posted : 28 Aug, 2010 12:22 PM The only questions I can answer with any amount of certainty is: I'd love to adopt, and I'd never leave a woman if she was sterile. It's just how she was made. @marianna, I just jumped into this thread, but do you really see a vasectomy as a crime against one's body? I'm not trying to be belligerent, but I gotta side with tulip. I've had "perfect" teeth pulled to prevent my mouth from going bad, and now I have four wisdom teeth rotting in my head that will require major invasive surgery. (they've become covered over by my gumline.) So what do you think I should do here? I prayed before I got the first set of teeth pulled, and that's what led to my current problem. I'm all about God providing for me, but on the same token, if I just let these teeth go, I'm going to die of sepsis. Was it self-mutilation to let the dentist pull my healthy teeth in hopes of avoiding the exact problem I'm having now? If not, am I going against God by visiting the dentist again? I believe he put me in the job I'm at, where I have health insurance. Also, do you consider a vasectomy a "barrier" method? Thanks so much for your input! Post Reply
Tulip89 View Profile History	babies Posted : 28 Aug, 2010 01:38 PM I'm not trying to convince you that a certain number of kids is correct and any more is wrong. I was just trying to raise the point that it isn't always smart to have lots of children. I also still cannot understand why you are still lumping getting a vasectomy in with murder. Asking a trained surgeon to do a small elective surgery and being involuntarily killed by someone else are two completely different things. Post Reply
View Profile History	babies Posted : 28 Aug, 2010 02:28 PM ohhh... it seems like I can't make my points clear. I don't know whether it is my English or my thought flow... I wouldn't say that a vasectomy equalls committing a murder, but oh well... if one can avoid such radical measures, I think one should. I mean there are other effective methods of contraception, are there not. And reversible ones, too. So why not to choose them? @skinnywhiteboy: how did you come to the conclusion that I think vasectomy is a barrier method?!?!? no! it isn't! condoms and caps described by Pixy are such methods. And I already said that teeth is quite a different thing - even if you have some of them extracted, you can still bite and chew! @tulip: I guess I can't really explain why. Maybe it has something to do with myself being brought up in the Roman Catholic church which has a strong official stand on moral issues. Family planning is one of them. Anyway, as I stated above, everybody has a conscience which accuses and justifies them. And as long as you're accountable before your spiritual leaders (your pastor, elders...), your spouse and - first and foremost - the Lord, do whatever your heart tells you to do! Post Reply
View Profile History	babies Posted : 28 Aug, 2010 03:00 PM Yeah, vasectomies definitely aren't barrier methods. A vasectomy is referred to as sterilization, I believe. I'll try to explain this w/out being too graphic! A barrier method is putting a TEMPORARY block between the guy's sex organ and the female's cervix. Altering the ability of your body to function as originally designed by God, either through taking hormones, having an IUD placed in your uterus, or getting a vasectomy does not qualify as a barrier method!!! I feel like a junior high health teacher now :goofball: Post Reply
Tulip89 View Profile History	babies Posted : 28 Aug, 2010 06:07 PM In the end though, a vasectomy is just a permanent barrier closer to the start of the process. Sure I'm taking a little liberty with "barrier method," but it isn't like guys are getting parts lopped off like when vets "fix" dogs. I am firmly against "amputation methods." Post Reply
View Profile History	babies Posted : 28 Aug, 2010 06:26 PM Um, yeah, I'm against amputation methods too. It seems like it would easier to just agree to be celibate at that point. Post Reply

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