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Admin	The ultimate philosophical riddle... Posted : 20 Jan, 2009 08:36 PM "This sentence is a lie." Is it? Post Reply
C2C04 View Profile History	The ultimate philosophical riddle... Posted : 22 Jan, 2009 06:53 AM NO Post Reply
View Profile History	The ultimate philosophical riddle... Posted : 24 Jan, 2009 03:03 PM yes Post Reply
ephesians522 View Profile History	The ultimate philosophical riddle... Posted : 29 Jan, 2009 08:13 PM No, as it doesn't deviate from the truth. Post Reply
View Profile History	The ultimate philosophical riddle... Posted : 30 Jan, 2009 07:14 PM Yes, but it was asked under false pretenses, thereby making the entire premise a lie, including the question itself. Post Reply

lovinglife25 View Profile History	The ultimate philosophical riddle... Posted : 3 Feb, 2009 12:38 PM http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liar_paradox clearly not the ultimate answer, but provides a great starting point. Post Reply
Gibbons_Dance View Profile History	The ultimate philosophical riddle... Posted : 4 Feb, 2009 09:50 PM The statement is telling the truth, even when it says that it itself is a lie. However, a lie needs a referent and the sentence is self-referential. But what is it particularly lying about? The fact that it is a statement? No, because it is a statement about truth (a proposition): therefore, the statement is false (referring to the question the questioner posed) - this statement is not a lie, it is a proposition. So as the statement is self-referential - the predicate 'is a lie' refers to the subject 'this statement'; but as the subject is merely an object (!), it doesn't make a proposition which can be be called true or false. So either the sentence is false - because it is a proposition not a lie - or meaningless, because the predicate refers to an object, not a proposition. Post Reply
View Profile History	The ultimate philosophical riddle... Posted : 22 Feb, 2009 12:39 AM Answer: (for all the geeks out there ) 42 or not enough information provided to determine, as it is itself a contradictory statement, there is therefore no way to delineate a truth from it. Post Reply
View Profile History	The ultimate philosophical riddle... Posted : 3 Mar, 2009 06:01 PM The ultimate philosophical riddle... Posted : 20 Jan, 2009 08:36 PM "This sentence is a lie." Is it? You yourself by saying that the sentence is a lie it is a lie (the creater of the sentence knows if it is or not) that could very well turn out to be the truth to the creator. Post Reply
View Profile History	The ultimate philosophical riddle... Posted : 20 May, 2009 06:05 PM The answer is that it's nonsense. Post Reply