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LittleDavid

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Do Yoga leggings and other indecent dress meet the biblical qualification of modesty
Posted : 8 Jul, 2018 10:04 PM

Women's modern dress ethic continues to descend from modest to what was once seriously taboo. A man trying to keep his thoughts pure is confronted with soft core porn leggings nearly everywhere he looks especially in the city. A man can hardly avoid this ubiquitous pornographic dress in his peripheral vision even if he strains to maintain direct eye contact with an immodestly dressed woman. A man might turn his head to the east to avoid live porn on the west only face another live porn. Sorry ladies if referring to such dress as porn offends you, perhaps you might want to research the evolution of pornography.



Ever watch tv news reports hosted by man and woman anchors? Usually the man is dressed conservatively in suit and tie while the woman anchor is dressed sleeveless, low cut and sometimes cross legged--because her skirt is so short. Has anyone considered what it would look like if the male anchor showed up in a sleeveless low cut outfit in a crouch hugging skirt or in tight fitting leggings???!! yeah gross right?

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LittleDavid

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Do Yoga leggings and other indecent dress meet the biblical qualification of modesty
Posted : 10 Jul, 2018 07:16 PM

Nothing was said about men having impure thoughts. The idea was men taking action to avoid impure thoughts. There's a difference

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Posted : 10 Jul, 2018 07:40 PM

Cupcakeme, it's ok to agree with someone, in this case jayzee. But don't you remember from critical thinking class, a child would raise its hand to agree with a statement from another child, the teacher would affirm the students right to agree but would encourage the student to state **why** agreement was decided. For example: I agree with jayzee because______and tell us why. All I'm trying to do is encourage you to think independently and fact based so you can avoid the appearance of simple follower-ship.

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LittleDavid

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Posted : 10 Jul, 2018 07:53 PM

Jayzeee, you can't offer a viable counter argument by attacking my age or me personally . This is known as irrational thinking in logic texts. Personal attacks only expose the inherent weaknesses of your position. I offered several facts that you continue to ignore in your posts. I would gladly help you formulate a better argument and l don't mind assisting the opposition with thought development

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Do Yoga leggings and other indecent dress meet the biblical qualification of modesty
Posted : 11 Jul, 2018 04:43 PM

We're not in school! I do agree and that is my reply.

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Posted : 11 Jul, 2018 05:30 PM

Hello everyone:

May I ask what historical person made this statement.



Do not try to convert the intellectuals as they will never convert. Instead appeal to the emotions of the rest.

There is a lot of emotion being used,maybe we need to begin Thinking about the subject, then any agreements will have been reasonse out.

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Posted : 11 Jul, 2018 08:50 PM

I Timothy 2:9,10: I also want women to dress **MODESTLY**, with **DECENCY**and propriety, adorning themselves, not with elaborate hairstyles or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, but with good deeds appropriate for women who profess to worship God.



Of course only about 50 percent of women in the USA dress with decent modestly so Christian men must follow God's Word on looking at a women who is not dressed modestly!!



2 Corinthians 10:5: We take captive **EVERY THOUGHT** and make it obedient to Christ!!



Romans 13:14: Clothe yourselves with the Lord Jesus Christ, and **DO NOT THINK** about how to satisfy the desires of the sinful nature!



Matthew 22:37,38: Jesus says, "Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with **ALL YOUR MIND**!! This is the first and **GREATEST** commandment!!"



Colossians 3:2: Set your **MINDS ON THINGS ABOVE**, not on earthly things!



Romans 12:2: Be transformed by the **RENEWING OF YOUR MIND**. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is--His good, pleasing and perfect will!!



Romans 8:5,6: Those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their **MINDS** set on what the Spirit desires. The mind of sinful man is death, but the **MIND** controlled by the Spirit is life and peace!



Philippians 4:8,9: Finally, brothers, whatever is **TRUE**, whatever is **NOBLE**, whatever is **RIGHT**, whatever is **PURE**, whatever is **LOVELY**, whatever is **ADMIRABLE**,**THINK ABOUT SUCH THINGS**... And the God of peace will be with you!!



I John 2:1-5: Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world. We know that we have come to know Him **IF WE KEEP HIS COMMANDS**! Whoever says, "I know Him," but does not do what He commands is a liar, and the truth is not in that person. But if anyone **OBEYS HIS WORD**, love for God is truly made complete in them. This is how we know we are in Him!



John 14:21,23,24: Jesus says, "Whoever has My commands and **KEEPS THEM** is the one who loves Me... Anyone who loves Me will **OBEY MY TEACHING**, My Father will love them, and We will come to them and make Our home with them. Anyone who does not love Me will not obey My teaching.



Matthew 16:27: Jesus says, "For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father's glory with His angels and the He will **REWARD** each person according to what they have done!"



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Posted : 12 Jul, 2018 08:27 PM

Cupcakeme, of course we're not in school now but purpose of schooling was to prepare you to think in adulthood. The Bible also commands us to think biblically. We don't believe something just because someone else does. See 1John4:1-5. But since you ignore the verses on modesty and decency, I suppose you'll ignore this verse in 1John too.

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Posted : 22 Jul, 2018 08:58 AM

dng67 quote:



"Trump could have become a Christian and doing God's will."???



Trump is certainly not a saint. About 80 percent of the Evangelicals voted for him because they were afraid that Hillary would select the next 2 or 3 Chief Justices who would be very tough on Evangelicals who preached against gay marriage etc. and possibly remove their tax free status.



However, Trump is just as evil as Hillary or Obama. Trump's favorite pastor was the famous Satanic liberal, Norman Vincent Peale who made fun of people who believe in the inspiration of God's Word or the Divinity of Jesus or eternal hell etc. He also taught that it is moral to have a huge ego and you don't have to repent of your sins. Trump has repeatedly said that he has never repented of anything he did. Trump owned a gambling casino which really steal people's money with tremendous odds. His casino also had very lewd shows with topless women doing very sinful gyrations.



Norman Vincent Peale was Trump's Pastor for 25 years and married Trump and his 2 sisters, Mr Peale's famous book **The Power of Positive Thinking** is the most liberal Christian book ever written. In his book Mr. Peale refuses to allow his followers to hear, speak or see any evil. For him real human suffering does not exist; there is no such thing as murderous rage, suicidal despair, cruelty, lust, greed, mass poverty, or illiteracy. All these things he would dismiss as trivial mental processes which will evaporate if thoughts are simply turned into more cheerful channels.



Trump has had 3 wives. In the last year of his first wife he had a very open adulterous relationship with Marla Maples, his future 2nd wife, and he then made the cover of Playboy magazine. Trump then married his 3rd and last wife who is 25 years younger. Trump became famous for bragging to a TV reporter that he could grab women's crotches and get away with it because he is so rich, handsome and famous. About 10 women claimed that they were sexually harassed or fondled by Trump. When someone objects to his vulgar language or ideas he is very good at viciously attacking them and he never turns the other cheek as Jesus has commanded. Trump is very rich and loves and worships the **ALMIGHTY DOLLAR**!



Trump's favorite preacher for the past 15 years has been Paula White and she is now in the **INNER CIRCLE** of Trump's advisers. Paula White promotes pornography for married people and declares that divorce is a **GIFT FROM GOD**. Paula White is a woman preacher that has made a fortune taking money from gullible people with her Prosperity Gospel. Paula White has also had an adulterous affair with Benny Hinn who is the king of those preaching the evil Prosperity Gospel.



There are some who claim that Donald Trump was born again through the teaching of Paula White.????



I Timothy 2:11: A **WOMAN** should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a **WOMEN** **TO TEACH** or to assume authority **OVER A MAN**!



I Corinthians 15:34,35:**WOMEN** should remain silent in the churches, They are not allowed **TO SPEAK**, but must be in submission, as the law says. If they want to inquire about anything, they should ask their husbands at home; for it is **DISGRACEFUL** for a **WOMAN** **TO SPEAK IN THE CHURCH**!!



Over 15 years, radio shock jock Howard Stern and his buddy Donald Trump periodically carried on like towel-snapping �bros� in a locker room, rating women�s tops and bottoms, debating whether oral sex is �important,� and egging each other on about whether they would like to go to bed with famous women from Cindy Crawford to Diane Sawyer.



�You could�ve gotten her, right?� Stern asked Trump on-air shortly after Princess Diana�s death in 1997. �You could�ve nailed her.� �I think I could have,� Trump said. How about singer Mariah Carey? �Would you bang her?� Stern asked. Trump replied, �I would do it without hesitation.� Trump�s crude talk on-air with Stern between 1990 and 2005 was part of an image the businessman cultivated as a Manhattan playboy who had so many women that he barely had time to sleep. He was often seen at trendy nightclubs with different women, appeared on the cover of Playboy magazine, wrote in his books about all the women chasing him and publicly boasted about his sex life.



According to excerpts from Lewandowski's new book �Let Trump Be Trump� Trump was prone to yelling at aides and campaign officials on a daily basis, but became particularly angry at campaign manager Paul Manafort when he said that Trump should no longer go on TV for interviews:



�Did you say I shouldn�t be on TV on Sunday? I�ll go on TV anytime I g�dam f�ing want and you won�t say another f�ing word about me!� Trump yelled at Manafort, according to Lewandowski in 2016.



Proverbs 8:13: The Lord says, "I hate **PRIDE** and **ARROGANCE**!"



Definition of **PRIDE**: A high or inordinate opinion of one's own dignity, importance, merit, or superiority. Self-idolatry, Conceit.



Definition of **ARROGANCE**: Offensive display of superiority or self-importance; overbearing pride.



Donald Trump has continually and consistently bragged about his accomplishments at rallies and in hundreds of Tweets such as becoming very rich and becoming president and all his accomplishments since becoming president. There are many who believe that Trump has bragged more times than any other man in history and is the first man that is even more conceited than Satan!



Trump is also extremely proud of all the extremely expensive clothes and jewelry that he bought for his wife who is 25 years younger. The First Lady has made over 100 public appearances and has never been caught wearing the same ridiculously expensive outfits more than once.



I Timothy 2:9,10: I also want the women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, adorning themselves, not with elaborate hairstyles or gold or pearls or **EXPENSIVE CLOTHES**, but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God.



I timothy 6:9,10: Those who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil!



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Posted : 28 Jul, 2018 09:11 PM

Well I'm going to chime in here.

How this descended into a shameful, unchristian display of poop-throwing is beyond me. Calling someone "clueless" is uncalled for. Firing back in a flesh-driven way is also wrong. And, the only one speaking for passionless reason to take over is the guy who likewise slaps his fellow christians around as "sheeple" because they do not follow the same, hard, rigid path he does.

With as much calmness and Christian love as I can muster, this is my take on this topic: Christian women ought not to dress provocatively. Period. In no way do I advocate the insanity of Sharia law, but at the same time Christian women need to hold up cultural trends in the light of Scripture when it comes to dress.

But, we should expect nothing less from the world when we see women dressed in form-fitting clothes. Thing is, women (and I believe this is programmed into them by God) want to be seen as beautiful and they want to be desired. But, their sinful nature infects and distorts that need.

What can we, as Christian men, do about this? Nothing. All we can do is pray for control to not stare. That's pretty much it. Ask for the Holy Spirit's continued sanctification so that, over time, our sensibilities grow and our tastes and desires change. I can say that God's done some things in me to minimize my lustfulness. There are things that turn people on in the world that no longer have the same impact on me. This is ENTIRELY God. (For example, porn holds almost no temptation for me.) My suggestion is, if you're not doing it already, seek God for improved sanctifying in your desires, tastes, etc. Maybe also ask Him to remove any demonic influences in your life as well that may be fanning those flames. I think that's all any of us can do.

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Posted : 1 Aug, 2018 09:42 PM

I think you're right Keith, I probably shouldn't have used the word "clueless", got to thinking about that later. I know debate can get energetic and passionate. But I'm not sure it must always be polite. Certain bad reasoning must be called out forcfulky. Jesus, prophets and others didn't excactly use kind words when discussing with certain people but not with others. I guess one should be discerning in each situation.

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