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Admin	Why you have choice and why bad things happen to good people Posted : 8 Nov, 2009 04:08 PM He placed one scoop of clay upon another until a form lay lifeless on the ground. All of the Garden's inhabitants paused to witness the event. Hawks hovered, giraffes stretched, trees bowed. Butterflies paused on petals and watched. "You will love me, creation," God said. "I made you that way. You will obey me, universe, for you were designed to do so. You will reflect my glory, skies, for that is how you were created. But this one will be like me; this one will be able to choose." All were silent as the Creator reached into himself and removed some-thing yet unseen-- a seed. "It' called 'choice.' The seed of choice." Creation stood in silence and gazed upon the lifeless form. An angel spoke, "but what if he..." "What if he chooses not to love?" the Creator finished. "Come, I will show you." Unbound by today, God and the angel walked into the realm of tomorrow. "There, see the fruit of the seed of choice, both the sweet and the bitter." The angel gasped at what he saw. Spontaneous love. Voluntary devotion. Chosen tenderness. Never had he seen anything like these. He felt the love of the Adams. He heard the joy of Eve and her daughters. He saw the food and the burdens shared. He absorbed the kindness and marveled at the warmth. "Heaven has never seen such beauty, my Lord. Truly, this is your greatest creation." "Ah, but you've only seen the sweet. Now witness the bitter." A stench enveloped the pair. The angel turned in horror and proclaimed, What is it?" The Creator spoke only one word: "Selfishness." The angel stood speechless as they passed through centuries of repugnance. Never had he seen such filth. Rotten hearts. Ruptured promises. Forgotten loyalties. Children of the creation wandering blindly in lonely labyrinths. "This is the result of choice?” the angel asked. "Yes." "They will forget you?” "Yes." "They will reject you?" "Yes." "They will never come back?” "Some will. Most won't." "What will it take to make them listen?" The Creator walked on in Time, further and further into the future, until he stood by a tree, a tree that would be fashioned into a cradle. Even then he could smell the hay that would surround him. With another step into the future, he paused before another tree. It stood alone, a stubborn ruler on a bald hill. The trunk was thick, and the wood was strong. Soon it would be cut. Soon it would be trimmed. Soon it would be mounted on the stony brow of another hill. And soon he would be hung on it. He felt the wood rub against a back he did not yet wear. "Will you go down there?" the angel asked. "I will." "Is there no other way?" "There is not." "Wouldn't it be easier to not plant the seed? Wouldn't it be easier to not give the choice?" "It would," the Creator spoke slowly. "But to remove the choice is to remove the love." He looked around the hill and foresaw a scene. Three figures hung on three crosses, arms spread, heads fallen forward. They moaned with the wind. Men clad in soldier's garb sat on the ground near the trio. They played games in the dirt and laughed. Men clad in religion stood off to one side. They smiled, arrogant, cocky. They had protected God, they thought, by killing this false one. Women clad in sorrow huddled at the foot of the hill speechless, faces tear-streaked, eyes downward. One put her arm around another and tried to lead her away. She wouldn't leave. "I will stay," she said softly, "I will stay." All heaven stood to fight. All nature rose to rescue. All eternity poised to protect. But the Creator gave no command. "It must be done...," he said, and withdrew. But as he stepped in time, he heard the cry that he would someday scream: "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" He wrenched at tomorrow's agony. The angel spoke again. "It would be less painful... "The Creator interrupted softly. "But it wouldn't be love." They stepped into the Garden again. The Maker looked earnestly at the clay creation. A monsoon of love swelled up within him. He had died for the creation before he had made him. God's form bent over the sculptured face and breathed. Dust stirred on the lips of the new one. The chest rose, cracking the red mud. The cheeks fleshened. A finger moved. And an eye opened. But more incredible than the moving of the flesh was the stirring of the spirit. Those who could see the unseen gasped. Perhaps it was the wind that said it first. Perhaps what the star saw that moment is what has made it blink ever since. Maybe it was left to an angel to whisper it: "It looks like ... it appears to so much like ... it is him!" The angel wasn't speaking of the face, the features, or the body. He was looking inside--at the soul. "It's eternal!" gasped another. Within the man, God has placed a divine seed. A seed of himself (a seed of choice). The God of might had created earth's mightiest... And the One who had chosen to love had created one who could love in return. Post Reply
View Profile History	Why you have choice and why bad things happen to good people Posted : 14 Nov, 2009 11:06 PM dear ck, nice post.. welcome to the forums. ole cattle Post Reply
View Profile History	Why you have choice and why bad things happen to good people Posted : 24 Dec, 2009 03:39 PM I think the question is really "why do good things happen to bad people? Post Reply
Merilee View Profile History	Why you have choice and why bad things happen to good people Posted : 16 Jan, 2010 02:19 PM Hi; Why do good things happen to bad people. I also asked this in the past yr or so and someone I respect immensely put it simply this way.. because this is all they have to look forward to. For some they can gamble, drink, womenize, (manomize? lol) do what they please, have success the worldly way and live outwardly lovely lives but when it's done it's done. No future in eternity, no idea of what it feels like to be humble and forgiven. No clue what real love feels like on a spiritual level, it's all superficial for them, shallow, little depth and for some they prefer it that way. Hope that offers up one idea? Meri Post Reply

stormcountry33 View Profile History	Why you have choice and why bad things happen to good people Posted : 16 Jan, 2010 04:19 PM This is a big issue I have and that often leaves me frustrated...I see those people around me who are definitely NOT living for God and yet they have a place of their own, a steady job, and a good relationship with some one. And yet, and yes this is selfish, I have been a Christian most of my life and try my best to live by the Christian morals and values and try to live a life pleasing to God and yet I'm 25 yrs old stuck at home with my parents and can't seem to stay on the job long enough to get ahead. I know its the economy because I have a decent work ethic and my prior bosses greatly respect me for that work ethic but that frustration of not having a steady job to rely on, moving into my own place and then not being able to find that someone special angers me from time to time. Sorry for the venting, haha!! Post Reply
chilu View Profile History	Why you have choice and why bad things happen to good people Posted : 24 Jan, 2010 08:24 AM i think when one looks at the way our Lord Jesus Christ lived, one would not complain. becoz Jesus does tell us in the bible that the servant is not higher than the master and that if the world hated him, it would definately hate us. the bible does also tell us to fix our eyes on the things that are unseen instead of the things that are seen, becoz the things that are seen are only for a short time, but the unseen things are:bouncy: eternal. once a believer sees that home is not here on this planet but heaven, their attitude toward life changes. My encouragement to every christian is this: David said in psalms that" i was young and now am old but ave never seen the righteous forsaken". God also says in Philipians 4:19 that he shall supply all our needs according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus. i walk by those scriptures everyday and my lord has never left me wanting, he has provided for me always. the only thing i have to do is to be patient becoz God's time is the perfect time....the bible does tell us to count it all joy when we go through trials so that our faith may be made perfect! the bigger the blessing the bigger the problem, if ur faithfull in little even in much u will be faithfull. ............... "all things work together for good to them that love the Lord''! Post Reply
View Profile History	Why you have choice and why bad things happen to good people Posted : 2 Mar, 2010 06:17 PM the reason bad ting happen to good people because it makes us stronger and makes us have a better character. god puts us throug those trials to make us understand and to rebuild ourselves and help those in need that dont have god in there life we can related to them and show them how god pulls us through those hard times and how wonderful he is to help us. and in the end with all those bads things become where we have good things. god has a purpose for us. plus some these bads things happen so we can help others in that sitiuation. but everything happens for a reason and remember the promise we will recieve enternal life in the end!!!! Post Reply
View Profile History	Why you have choice and why bad things happen to good people Posted : 7 Sep, 2010 02:52 PM Where in the Bible says that there are good people? Post Reply