What Has Happened To Good Ole Wholesomeness And Morals???
Posted : 5 Nov, 2010 11:00 AM
Saved, when you make a topic like this, people are right to assume it's being aimed at someone, perhaps even themselves. Pixy wasn't crazy to think you were aiming it at her because I sure thought you were aiming it at her too.
What Has Happened To Good Ole Wholesomeness And Morals???
Posted : 5 Nov, 2010 12:08 PM
It has nothing to do with what Pixy said. She just seems to be the only one who asks questions other than, "Why do people care so much about looks?" and "What do people want in a mate?" I wasn't going into any sort of "full on accusation" either. I was just saying it would be easy for her and others to think she was the one you were aiming at. Life is only one big drama fest if you make it that way.
What Has Happened To Good Ole Wholesomeness And Morals???
Posted : 5 Nov, 2010 12:53 PM
Saved, I would love to resolve things with you. Between Christians, putting something in the past involves resolution and restoration of relationship, though -- not just sweeping things under the carpet. Despite my efforts in that area, you've been unwilling to do that. I'm not going to go back through all the thread and posts links to your comments to me or quotes here, but you and I both know what's gone on between us.
On that thread of mine from 2 months ago that I posted soon after I'd been raped and while I was suspecting I was pregnant -- about whether or not a guy would stay with his girlfriend if she was raped and became pregnant -- you commented heavily, as I'm sure you remember. As I expressed at that time (and as others expressed to you), your comments were out of line. You belittled me and said that my feelings were not true of someone who had actually been raped. You attacked me for talking about rape publicly. Even when I said that I had prayed about the topic before posting it and that I felt God leading me to post the thread, you accused me of lying about praying over it and said that if I'd truly talked to Jesus about it before posting that I wouldn't have posted it.
I was hoping that was a one a one-time issue, but then, almost a month ago, you attacked me again on a thread for misunderstanding someone's question, even after I'd posted an apology, stating that I was sorry that I'd misunderstood and responding to the woman's clarification of her question. You indicated that you felt I was purposely misunderstanding the question as to cause strife. At that point, it became clear that your comments to me on the "rape thread" were not, in fact, a one-time issue and that there was some underlying tension there that needed to be worked through.
At that time, I sent you a private message requesting that we work things out and expressing that we needed to restore things between us. Rather than responding to that, you hopped onto the whycome thread and posted some very not nice things about me, as well as some outright lies. It was fairly soon after that that I deactivated my account here for awhile. And now that I've been back just a few days, this thread has popped up.
I hope that me recalling all of that for you helps to explain how I came to the conclusion that this thread may be partially about me or directed towards me. I'm glad to hear that it has absolutely nothing to do with me, but that, then, begs the question: Who is it directed towards and why are you not working your differences out with that person rather than posting about him or her publicly? If you look at how Matthew 18 tells us to handle conflict amongst believers, there isn't a step in there where you "anonymously" talk about the person you have an issue with or where you attack them. It's difficult to carry out a strict following of Matthew 18 in an online format, but the basic principle of working out conflict between the two people involved and restoring the relationship there can absolutely be accomplished. The person this is directed towards, Saved, may not even realize it or realize that you've been upset by something he or she has said. I would implore you to message that person directly.
As far as leaving you alone, that's simply not Biblical. The only case that would apply to would be if you wanted me to treat you as a pagan or tax collector because you'd refused to repent. I certainly hope things don't progress to that point. I would much prefer that you would respond to that message I sent you almost a month ago and that we would things out. If you want to avoid my topics and posts on here, I obviously can't stop you, but I certainly can't just pretend that you're invisible and like your threads and posts on here don't exist. That's not a God-honouring way to interact with each other and really only increases the tension. Giving someone the silent treatment doesn't lead towards resolution.
All of that said, I stand behind my first post on this thread. My thoughts on the matter are no different than if it was directed towards me specifically.
What Has Happened To Good Ole Wholesomeness And Morals???
Posted : 5 Nov, 2010 08:30 PM
Now I really wonder what Jesus would have in His mind reading His children's writings on this topic.
One thing I learn from Him, He never cares of who is being right or wrong, He cares of our responses towards the situation.
And He, on the other hand, had made Himself the perfect example for this. When the Pharisess accused Him, He didn't stand up and declared that He was the Son of God, striking lightnings from Heaven to the Pharisees just to prove that He was right and they were wrong. He had responded rightly. He did not point His fingers to the Pharisees and told them "they were wrong and I was right". He only did what a Christian should respond on every situation.
What Has Happened To Good Ole Wholesomeness And Morals???
Posted : 6 Nov, 2010 08:13 AM
This discussion is not at all about WHO is right. This discussion is about WHAT is right -- namely, how to treat one another as fellow brothers and sisters. It doesn't matter to me who wrote the original post. If Saved had not written that, but someone else had, my response would have been exactly the same. We as Christians are not supposed to backhandedly attack people anonymously. It is the principle, not the person.
I also have made the case that the Church has shied away from talking about subjects as though subjects themselves were dirty, but doesn't the Scripture itself say "to the pure, all things are pure"? What's wrong with us that we don't rush to embrace those who are hurting, defiled, broken, but instead shuffle them out of sight and say, "Shut up"? Where is our love? My heart breaks for those who have been wounded in this way, and those who have turned from Christ because of it.
Furthermore, no-one is posting anything explicit here. If someone was going on about their porn addiction, for instance, by quoting paragraphs of torrid prose, of course that would be wrong. If someone illustrated their problem with murderous thoughts by writing revenge fantasies, of course that would be wrong. It is not wrong to admit that you have those sin problems and sharing your struggles and your healing. How are we supposed to bear one another's burdens if no-one knows what they are?
Let's love a little more and stop saying, "unclean, unclean".
