Thread: A wifes submission, the beauty and good it brings.
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A wifes submission, the beauty and good it brings.
Posted : 20 Aug, 2012 03:52 AM
Brothers and Sisters,
We get all confused as to what submission is in the bible, right?
I was just posting on a thread and I had to hit the submit button. Anyone here have to hit the submit button as well?
What are we doing when we hit the submit button?
We are offering freely our thoughts and feeling on a certain topic, right?
It makes sense now and this has been my sucess in my relationship my with feincee.
She offers her advice , opinion, feelings etc to me and because I love her I consider and listen to her submitted thoughts.
Could submission be as simple as this? YES
But also from a mans point validating her submitted thoughts and from her point submitting thoughts that will easily be recieved.
Many times we out of our great need to be heard try to force our thoughts on another. This is not submission. Like here their are guidelines we are called to follow in comunicating.
For me in my relationship I want to hear her thoughts because i love her. My problem is that she many times holds back on her thoughts because she is fearful of hurting me. She tries to protect me from her feelings. I had this problem with my previous relationship.
This time I am a strong man and once she shares with me I (do not) react out of pride or feeling of rejection to her and can show her compassion and love instead.
Whenever she withholds sharing with me, she limits my being able to express love to her in what she is feeling.
Also God has called a mans wife to be his helper and if she holds back in submitting her thoughts how can she be his help?Being a Husbands helper is not going and doing it by your self. That breakes down unity and seperates you from oneanother.
But women have to remember your words need to come to us with ((((((respect)))))))). Many times your words come in derission or in a form of a command. When you come to a man without respect you will never be heard but you will only push away the man you seek to help. Your attitude toward him is everything.
This I believe is the leading cause of abuse in relationships a woman who does not know how to approace a wounded man. Women who put their men on the defense and ultimatly at war with you.
Its the difference between telling ( trying to be powerful over him) or in submission( gently submitting your advice and thoughts) A angry abusive man is a man who has been belittled all of his life and his wife belittles him as well. A abusive man is so insecure and despretly needs help from a good woman, his wife.
His abuse is his way to feel powerful because deep down in side he feels powerless. But he is to afraid to look at his powerlessness. If you ladies understood the motive behind abuse maybe you could be a better helper to him.
Its not to late to be his helper, The helper God has called you to be...
You can go to your man and ask forgiveness for your continues rejection of him and ask forgiveness for your dissrespect to him.
Men you need to go to your wife and ask forgiveness for being abusive due to your insecurities and weakness.
If a Husband or wife starts here, their is hope for you. If you need further help just ask me and i would love to do so.
A wifes submission, the beauty and good it brings.
Posted : 25 Aug, 2012 11:07 PM
Hmm,
"Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This is the word of the Lord unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the Lord of hosts.", Zechariah 4:6
And,
"He said: �Listen, King Jehoshaphat and all who live in Judah and Jerusalem! This is what the Lord says to you: �Do not be afraid or discouraged because of this vast army. For the battle is not yours, but God�s. 16 Tomorrow march down against them. They will be climbing up by the Pass of Ziz, and you will find them at the end of the gorge in the Desert of Jeruel. 17 You will not have to fight this battle. Take up your positions; stand firm and see the deliverance the Lord will give you, Judah and Jerusalem."
Not to mention all the plagues brought on Egypt through Moses, and Israel's deliverance through the Red Sea. I'm sure many of us could go on and on.
Will, maybe this is why you seem to whip people with God's Word like a slave driver. Because you really do feel that it's your battle.
I feel sorry for you.
When you respond to my post here, as usual, you won't point out any of the good, or be thankful for how God has led me thus far. Instead, you'll take up your sword, and continue to try and wage war with your fellow brothers and sisters in Christ. At this point, I would caution you to be careful that it is not the Lord you're waging war against.
A wifes submission, the beauty and good it brings.
Posted : 25 Aug, 2012 11:46 PM
"You offered a point of view. I offered a point of view. and so on"
Many people "share" their points of view on these forums, and I think they should feel safe to do so without the fear of getting "pistol whipped" with knowledge - and I'm not singling you out in this. I think this is happening all over the place here.
"You didn't praise me for mine. I didn't praise you for yours. Was that a sin on either of our parts?"
It may be, especially since we're setting a public example of Christ like conduct to others visiting this site.
"Was I evil or malicious to you in some way on this thread?"
I consider many of the people here to be my brothers and sisters in Christ, so it's not just about me.
"What does a comment like "I feel sorry for you" indicate? Should I feel sorry for you, too? I don't get it."
Oh my heavens man, what have all your 200 some odd comments meant, which you've made to others? Who do you think you're kidding?
Look, we all get checked. I've been checked. If you're getting checked, can't you just role with it and grow? That's what I've done in the past, and it's benefited me greatly.
A wifes submission, the beauty and good it brings.
Posted : 25 Aug, 2012 11:59 PM
Listen. You and others have clearly laid out your opinion of me. I didn't say anything offensive to you in this thread tonight.
I'm tired of people like you and others singling me out, engaging me, trying to provoke me and then crying foul.
If you, or anyone else here just doesn't like me and is unwilling to try to get along with me as a brother, then why not just avoid me? I don't post on very many threads so that shouldn't be hard to do.
I'm happy to practice that same thing with you. The fact is that this has become almost a mob trying to tear me down here. There are a few others that have noticed that as well. That doesn't bother anyone?
If you want to keep pointing out my sins and "checking me", go ahead. Be aware that you are the one pressing the offensive here against me.
A wifes submission, the beauty and good it brings.
Posted : 26 Aug, 2012 12:34 AM
You come in here, pick a fight with me. Then "check me" and tell me to "just roll with it"
When I was a teenager, I was taught to show respect for my elders, believers and nonbelievers alike. I was actually taught to say "Sir and Mam" As a result, it just never dawned on me to challenge, debate with, "check", correct, etc those who were significantly older than I was. Sadly, this type of respect has been lost in our culture.
Maybe you see me as one of those "broken, spiritually crippled people who will double cross you in a heartbeat" folks that you said this site is full of. If so, I guess that's what gives you your sense of entitlement. I really don't know.
Can we end this war now? I would like to get some sleep.
A wifes submission, the beauty and good it brings.
Posted : 26 Aug, 2012 02:02 AM
I'd like to step in and say that WillB is right in this situation. You didn't praise him for his post and then you criticize him for not praising your for yours.
A wifes submission, the beauty and good it brings.
Posted : 26 Aug, 2012 02:06 AM
"and I think they should feel safe to do so without the fear of getting "pistol whipped" with knowledge"
This is a little hypocritical but we are off topic now. Maybe it's a good time for this thread to be put to rest. The errors in the OP have been shown over and over. The thread doesn't seem to be benefiting anyone.
A wifes submission, the beauty and good it brings.
Posted : 26 Aug, 2012 05:46 AM
Men, men, men...
I stood up all night reading this post and even copied and pasted some comments to my notes; with the intention of respond when done.
By the discernment I've received, I CAN NO LONGER DO THAT.
Since this thread originally started of about "Submission" it ended in what seems to be a game of "TELEPHONE"... (Boys!)
( i.e, you secretly say comment into one persons ear ONE time and you pass it to the other,and the other and... etc.)
I had posted a thread a few days ago, under Moral Standards (I think?!?!) entitled ROLES: MEN & WOMEN and it is somewhat about this topic. The fear of many women who do love, respect and follow the Lord, but do not want to be with Men who TWIST the word of the Lord and make them feel' as one had written " second class citizens."
I agreed with all, I disagreed with all.
Although ALL OF YOU had your faults on HOW some questions were answered and your (non/intentionally) DISRESPECTFUL and SARCASTIC comments...
ALL OF YOU also had GREAT answers, WONDERFUL intentions, AWESOME perspective, DETERMINATION, but MOST especially
A WILLING spirit, ZEALOUS of the WORD of our God and a great FOUNDATION that the Omnipotent IS using to mold you in to MODELED husbands when he so fits.
Whoeeeeeeevvvvvvveeeeeerrrrr marries you guys, has their work cut out for them!!!
A wifes submission, the beauty and good it brings.
Posted : 26 Aug, 2012 05:58 AM
If you look back on some of my threads even though I am the one being attacked the most here I have said reafirming things to all. Except David I really havent said much to him. I even expressed that your motives were good.
I am not finished here in this thread and when I am finished then and only then will I move on, understand?
You are not the one who decides Grace, underdstand?
