Hello! Its a lil' disappointing when the photos are clickin and the words are like wow :excited: and then.. I read that she drinks 1 or two on occasion. Speaking of Christian profiles primarily. Don't get me wrong for me it just dulls the shine. So, my question is why drink in the first place? I just can't make the connection between a beautiful woman of God and a drink "every now & again". Just always been a lil' disappointing for me is all. Not really looking for any responses I guess It was just needful for me to say.. Not one of us are perfect I know and.. wouldn't it be awesome if Jesus were to come back in this generation!!?? In OUR lifetime?? Those of us who are living according to the Word of God will be instantaneously transformed into our new heavenly bodies. God bless everyone!
*** YES!!!...Yahshua�aka Jesus did attend the Feasts of the LORD�and no doubt there was wine there�We can all agree He was a �Pure� �Sinless� �Lamb� of GOD as per Scripture�and He lived His Life according to All the �teachings� and the �law��some will call this speculation on my part�I don�t believe it is�it is Biblical and this is why�.
*** I now recall the Nazarene Vow in Numbers�
Numbers 6:1-3
6 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When either man or woman shall separate themselves to vow a vow of a Nazarite, to separate themselves unto the LORD:
3 He shall separate himself from wine and strong drink, and shall drink no vinegar of wine, or vinegar of strong drink, neither shall he drink any liquor of grapes, nor eat moist grapes, or dried.
*** It is a "Purity Vow" unto GOD. Some folks say, Well I'm not a Nazarene! And that can be true for many. Jesus is called a �Nazarene� by God and Prophet.
Mat 2:23 And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene.
*** I can�t recall anywhere in Scripture were it states that Jesus drank wine even though people say he did. It just isn�t found in the Scriptures. I do recall the Passover recorded in Mattew and Luke�
Mat 26:26 And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body.
27 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it;
*** Notice�Jesus says � Drink ye all of it;� Scripture doesn�t say He �drank� of it�
28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
*** Thank you Sweet Jesus!!!
29 But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom.
*** Notice��I will not drink henceforth of this fruit if the vine��Amazing!!!...
*** [ henceforth ] G575 apo and means - separation and is not in the Greek�however G737 - apti is which means ~ now, just now, at this moment. So there is no Scriptural Proof He ever did drink wine�its just not in Scripture�
Luke 22:15 And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer:
16 For I say unto you, I will not any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God.
17 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, Take this, and divide it among yourselves:
*** Notice� �Take this, and divide it among yourselves:� it does not say He took of it or drank of it�Amazing!!!
18 For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come.
*** Notice� [[[ �I will not drink of the fruit of the vine,� ]]]�Amazing!!!
19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.
*** Thank you Sweet Jesus!!!
20 Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come.
*** Notice� �Likewise also the cup after supper, saying [[[ �I will not drink of the fruit of the vine,� ]]]�That�s (2) cups of wine and (2) �I will not��There is no doubt in the Statement��I will not drink��I find all this Double AMAZING!!!
*** I recall now Leviticus�
Lev 10:8 And the LORD spake unto Aaron, saying,
:9 Do not drink wine nor strong drink, thou, nor thy sons with thee, when ye go into the tabernacle of the congregation, lest ye die: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations:
*** Notice��a statute for ever��
:10 And that ye may put difference between holy and unholy, and between unclean and clean;
*** Notice��may put difference between holy and unholy, between unclean and clean�. Per Abba�s Word, it�s a choice, holy or unholy, unclean or clean. It is His Word not mine. What I do with it is what is most Important to Him concerning me and Obviously what is important to me for me. I know I am not an �Aaron�, however I am a Child of the Most High GOD and my High Priest and Husband is Jesus. I want to be a purified Bride for HIM. Not one that professes even in good faith and yet does not do what He has clearly given a choice to do. I choose to choose wisely and not foolishly for the LORD knows I�ve made many a bad choice in the past and I only have right now for the future is yet to be�and now�this is in the past�DANG!!!...lol�
*** Some will recall these verses and I myself have in the distant past also�
Mat 11:16 But whereunto shall I liken this generation? It is like unto children sitting in the markets, and calling unto their fellows,
17 And saying, We have piped unto you, and ye have not danced; we have mourned unto you, and ye have not lamented.
18 For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, He hath a devil.
19 The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners. But wisdom is justified of her children.
*** Notice�Jesus is speaking of what [ people will say ]�� and they say �a winebibber�. What does that mean ???
*** a winebibber or a drunkad � G3630 - masculine noun � oinopot�s � a winebibber, given to wine, a wino - an excessive wine-drinker.
*** Yahshua was Perfect�Sinless�Holy�He can�t be a �Wino��
*** Point is�Just because [ people said this ] isn�t proof Jesus actually drank wine. As I said�I truly can�t find anywhere in Scriptures stating He did or it is Ok for us to do so going all the way back to Gen 9:21�
*** Scripture tells me to not judge those that drink or eat differently, wether they keep the Feasts or don�t or keep the Sabbath on Saturday or don�t..
Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
*** I�m going to close with Scripture and a Question�
*** Jesus said in Mat 26:27b �Drink ye all of it; 28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
*** What are we to �Drink ye of [ it ]� � Alcoholic Wine ? or the Pure Juice of the Vine ?...All I know is what is in the Scriptures�so whatever a person does drink of�I pray it is the LIVING Water�his WORD !!!...
Hi, a long and interesting post. I went and did some searching and this was the first result. Not sure how accurate it is but it seems to align with what I've seen in the past.
Answer: There is only one group of people who are explicitly told in the Bible to never drink wine/alcohol, and that is the Nazirites (Numbers 6:1�4). Jesus was not a Nazirite; He was a �Nazarene,� a native of the town of Nazareth (Luke 18:37). Jesus never took the Nazirite vow.
Christ�s first miracle of turning water into wine at the wedding at Cana almost certainly involved a fermented beverage. According to Jewish wedding tradition, fermented wine was always served at weddings; if Jesus had provided only grape juice, the master of the feast would have complained. Instead, he said the wine was better than what was previously served; it was apparently a �fine� wine (John 2:10�11).
The Greek word for �drunk� in John 2:10 is methuo, which means �to be drunken� or intoxicated. It is the same word used in Acts 2:15 where Peter is defending the apostles against accusations of drunkenness. The testimony of the master of the feast is that the wine Christ produced was able to intoxicate.
Of course, just because Jesus turned water into wine doesn�t prove that He drank the wine at the wedding, but it would have been normal for Him to do so. What it does prove is that Jesus doesn�t condemn drinking wine any more than He condemns eating bread. Sinful people abuse what is not inherently sinful. Bread and wine are not sinful, but gluttony and drunkenness are (Proverbs 23:2; Ephesians 5:18).
In Luke 7:33�44, Jesus said, �For John the Baptist has come eating no bread and drinking no wine, and you say, �He has a demon.� The Son of Man has come eating and drinking, and you say, �Look at him! A glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners!�� (emphasis added). In verse 33 Jesus is making a contrast between John the Baptist�s �drinking no wine� and His own practice. Jesus goes on to say the religious leaders accused Him (falsely) of being a drunkard. Jesus was never a drunkard, any more than He was a glutton. He lived a completely sinless life (1 Peter 2:22); however Luke 7 strongly suggests that Jesus did indeed partake of alcoholic wine.
The Passover celebration would also have commonly included fermented wine. The Scriptures use the term �fruit of the vine� (Matthew 26:27�29; Mark 14:23�25; Luke 22:17�18). Of course, Christ participated in drinking from the Passover cup (Mark 14:23).
All Christians would agree drunkenness is sinful, and Christ Himself warns against it (Luke 12:45). However, a biblical view of wine is that it is given as something to delight in (Psalm 104:14�15). There are plenty of warnings against alcohol abuse, in texts like Proverbs 20:1, because sinful men are more likely to abuse wine than to use it in moderation. Those who try to use Jesus� probable use of wine to excuse their drunkenness should heed the warning in Luke 12:45. Christians who want to keep a biblical view of drinking wine should either drink in moderation, never to drunkenness, or abstain totally.
Well, basically, it's your choice how you interpret the Lord's words, and what kind of partner you want, and you are free to do that. But it's clear that the Lord didn't have any problem with people enjoying alcohol, the Lord is good and made things good, as it says in Genesis.
I disagree with what you said about Luke 7.
"For John the Baptist has come eating no bread and drinking no wine, and you say, �He has a demon.� 34 The Son of Man has come eating and drinking, and you say, �Look at him! A glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners!� 35 Yet wisdom is justified by all her children.�
Because this to me says he drank wine. Remember, the Jews were outraged that He was sitting in a pub with sinners and He rebuked the Jews for being hypocrites. He was saying that it was impossible to please the Jews, either through abstaining or partaking.
Oh and remember, Jesus only said He would not drink at that moment at the very last supper, and He was over 30 years old and Had observed all of the biblical feasts since He was a child.
I'm sure there is someone out there for you who meets your requirements, and like you said, we aren't to judge each other with food or drink. Not drinking is not a big deal, but I thought about the idea of people being unable to message many potential best friends, simply for enjoying a drink or two. I've even had to change my profile just to send a friendly message to someone telling them that I'd replied to their forum post, because they wouldn't allow me to message them. And as it turns out they didn't even bother to respond lol. :waving:
:waving: Hi Kev2143...thanks so much for replying and sharing the Got the Questions explaination...I really like that site :o) ... I have often wonderd where was Yahshua all those years growing up that there is nothing recorded about Him in the Bible...and it is mentioned by...oh poo...I cant recall right now...something about not being enough books to hold all about Him...I Beleive it was John...Anywho...like I said..its my speculation as to Him being a Nazarite as He is the Anointed... :o)
Gods continued Blessings to you and yours Kev!!!
P. S. So sorry to hear that the person didn't respond to your msg...thats just plain rude...
Cheers!!!...:buddies:...thats "Root Beer"...folks... X <>< O
I've never had a root beer, but I do like the occasional pint of cider!:buddies:
I'm not sure where Jesus spent half of His life. I've read that one of His uncles or other relatives owned a tin mine in the UK and he came to the UK. Others have said that He went to Asia and studied with monks, but that's not something I believe, because He is the Lord, He doesn't need to learn to meditate.
P.S. As for people ignoring messages, yeah 2 women ignored friendly, non-flirtatious PMs when their profile said they were looking for friends and support. And the other one was just a courtesy because of her prayer requests. I often wonder if many people here are actually genuine.
I don't understand the debate about whether Jesus drank alcohol or not - as a Jew He would observe the passover feasts which include obligatory drinking of four cups of wine (it's on wikipedia - it must be true!!!). And if that doesn't convince you, then remember even if He never touched it Himself, He had no problem whatsoever providing gallons of the stuff for others including his own family to drink. This is the same guy who turned over stalls in the temple courtyard - quite able to refuse to do a miracle if He felt it was somehow sinful.
Paul advised Timothy to drink a little wine. The problem is when we become like Noah :toomuch: which can cause us to sin.
Those of us who hold strongly enough believe that drinking is a bad idea that we would not want a spouse who drank 1 or 2 on occasion can simply use "Advanced Search" to eliminate those people from our searches.
Just because a man and a woman are both Christians doesn't mean that particular man and woman are good matches. Issues of Christian standards, theology, life goals ... it all comes into being a good match. And on this point, the search makes thinning the results pretty easy.
