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Rabbit32 View Profile History	I would like your opinion... Posted : 7 Aug, 2010 09:47 PM ....on a passage: Titus 2:4 and so train the young women to love their husbands and children, 5 to be self-controlled, pure, working at home, kind, and submissive to their own husbands, that the word of God may not be reviled. Im not looking for a debate, I was hoping for thoughts and feelings from each individual lady, if you dont mind chiming in. Post Reply
riveroflife1 View Profile History	I would like your opinion... Posted : 8 Aug, 2010 12:38 PM Titus 2:4 and so train the young women to love their husbands and children, 5 to be self-controlled, pure, working at home, kind, and submissive to their own husbands, that the word of God may not be reviled. without looking it up I believe Paul is giving instructions to Titus in church leadership. Wanting the older women to train the younger in running a household. Church planting and leadership 101. There was alot of training to be done because the peole there were boisterous and that's who Titus was going to have to raise up for this church. I do think there should be discipleship for newly married couples. At least find a couple who has a solid & balanced marriage and put yourself under them, make friends with them and gleen from their wisdom as a couple as well as separately. I also think that women today want to control relationships and biblically, that is not correct. We should definitely only be involved with a man who we can respect as our spiritual leader. I wonder how many women are gonna' be upset with what I wrote...hmmm... Not sure if that's what you wanted but there it is.. Post Reply
Rabbit32 View Profile History	I would like your opinion... Posted : 8 Aug, 2010 02:17 PM Your opinions thoughts and feelings, which is what it looks like I got and I apreciate it. :) Post Reply
View Profile History	I would like your opinion... Posted : 8 Aug, 2010 05:31 PM There is nothing to debate. The scripture is self-explanatory. Like River said, there are many women who don't do those things, but I don't believe you will find a woman here who will say that she shouldn't be doing those things. Post Reply
View Profile History	I would like your opinion... Posted : 8 Aug, 2010 07:50 PM In that whole section Paul is giving advice to Titus on how he should lead and mentor the different groups in the church. I think it was good advice then, and it is still good advice. Post Reply
View Profile History	I would like your opinion... Posted : 8 Aug, 2010 08:22 PM I agree w/ babygirl. It seems very black and white and self-explanatory. BUT, there is most definitely the gap b/w reading and doing here. I would LOVE it if an older woman would come alongside me and mentor me in this way. I'm sure if/when I get married, that I would LOVE it even more as I'm sure I'll have a gazillion questions then. Ideally, a woman's mother would take a very active role in teaching her daughter in this way, but my mother didn't (seriously! I knew how to do NOTHING when I moved out! I had to read a manual just to figure out how to clean properly! And I relied on recipes A LOT those first couple of years! I still have trouble figuring out how to relate to men properly... My mother and I never had a conversation about interacting with guys or dating or where that "purity line" is) And I think a lot of mothers don't. One of the problems w/ the education system is that people start to assume sometimes that the school will teach their child all they need to know. Well, you can send your kid off to school and off to college and have them learn a ton of stuff, even a ton of useless stuff =) BUT, it really takes a wise, caring older woman who is willing to invest time in a young women to teach her how to be a woman of God and how to manage her household in a God-glorifying manner. Post Reply
Rabbit32 View Profile History	I would like your opinion... Posted : 8 Aug, 2010 09:27 PM Well said all of you We are an orphan generation Maybe some of you more seasoned ladies on here could give advice on a post for the more inexperienced ladies. :) Post Reply
Tulip89 View Profile History	I would like your opinion... Posted : 9 Aug, 2010 07:55 AM I assume that the women haven't read it, but Rabbit, have you read "The Silence of Adam" by Larry Crabb? If you haven't, go get it. It's about 15 years old, but it's still excellent. It talks some about how both men and women need older mentors who will come alongside younger people to bring them up in the church. Post Reply
View Profile History	I would like your opinion... Posted : 9 Aug, 2010 11:47 AM I like your thread. This is a good discussion. I think it can be a difficult topic because of the discrepancy between "men and women being equal" and that sometimes not conflicting with biblical passages. I think that men and women are equal in terms of being equally important, however, I don't think God designed us to do the same things. I don't mean to sound old fashioned, but I think that as a whole women are more geered for working in the home and men are more geered for success with working outside the home. I think men usually have more the qualities needed to lead, in terms of not letting their emotions get to them and being more assertive. I think women in general have more strengths with compromising and nurturing versus being assertive and acting as leaders. I think in these ways we are meant to compliment one another. I think society has taken the men and women are equal thing to an unhealthy level sometimes. I don't think it's good for both spouses to work and leave children home alone and in daycare all the time and let the house go to pot if it's not necessary. In this case, I think it's good for the man to work and woman to stay home, however, I understand that financially that's not very possible sometimes. I imagine some women will have a problem with what I wrote because it could be viewed as I'm being too stereotypical. I don't mean to sound that way. I just think that God designed us with different strengths, and we as girlfriends/wifes shouldn't compete with men on things that are their strengths. However, I believe we are equally responsible for our children and the health of our marriage, and therefore should always work to come to a compromise with our boyfriends/husbands on issues we disagree with. I look forward to reading other people's thoughts and ideas. I've always struggled with understanding passages like this in the bible because they seem to make women appear like second-class citizens, which I don't think God intended. I just think he designed us differently, unequal in having the same strenghts, but equally important in each other's lives and for the health of society. Post Reply
View Profile History	I would like your opinion... Posted : 12 Aug, 2010 08:25 AM I agree with JM i think that God created us with diffrent strengths and i also agree that he didnt mean that women werent as important as men however the man is suposed to be the leader! It also says that Men are suposed to have eyes for no other woman and respect her! I was not brought up in a home where we went to church, My Grandmother took me and she is no longer here i know that she would teach me the proper way to be a woman of God if she was still here but when it comes to getting it form my mom that won't happen! So i'm left tring to figure this out on my own! I just want to be the Woman that God instructs me to be so that i can please him! Post Reply