REALLY? - A woman should be so lost in God that a man will seek HIM first in order to find her?
Posted : 13 Feb, 2011 04:52 PM
Hi Precious Ones,
I have seen this oft-quoted "wise" saying elevated to scriptural authority as though it is written somewhere in the Bible. Is it really anywhere in the Holy Book? Please pinpoint it for me.
It is one of the most annoying figments of intelligent religious imagination ever. Our well-crafted, intelligent-sounding quotes cannot and should not take the place of the written word of God.
Yes, a woman should serve God just as the man should, and both, in order to be equally yoked, should meet in God.
For a woman to be so "lost" in God sounds religious - if not ouright fanatical. So "lost" or immersed that her responsibility of social relationship with a fellow human is shifted to our God? That's heresy. The two shall be joined together implies commonality of effort - both should be seeking, yielding, and finding.
Marriage is an earthly affair (for in heaven there is neither male nor female). So God says, whoso finds a wife (a spouse), finds a good thing and obtains favor from the Lord. There is no implication here that the woman should be "hiding" in God (who then dares the man to find HIM first before getting his prize). If a woman is considered the prize for finding God, then marital unions are in big time trouble.
REALLY? - A woman should be so lost in God that a man will seek HIM first in order to find her?
Posted : 13 Feb, 2011 05:33 PM
I have never heard that quoted at all, but did it none the less. I lost my identity in my ex-husband and children. Bad thing is I didn't even know it! :MrT:
It took my divorce for me to realize it and let God heal me and to find myself again. It's been an awesome process and journey. Fun too!
We are not to put our trust in man, that man would include a husband. I can submit without losing who I am or trying find God thru my man.
Like you made mention of, men and women should seek God and acknowledge Him in seeking their mate. It's such a serous committment, I absolutely will not be getting married without His approval and green light.
REALLY? - A woman should be so lost in God that a man will seek HIM first in order to find her?
Posted : 13 Feb, 2011 05:58 PM
1BBG,
Thank you for sharing such profound personal testimony.
I agree with you that we shouldn't lose our identities/individualities in the blessings of marriage and parenthood.
God already ordained marriage before we were born, so are you saying that God will specifically reveal a special "will" of his in your specific marital choice?
Or are we rather to subscribe to God's universal principle of marital/love relationship in which all humanity partake?
Is there such a thing as "christian marriage" - which is heaven-sanctioned? Are you sure?
REALLY? - A woman should be so lost in God that a man will seek HIM first in order to find her?
Posted : 13 Feb, 2011 06:28 PM
I believe God gives us choice and we do indeed have a will. I chose my ex-husband and what looked good on the surface turned out to be all jacked up.
Because I ask God and acknowledge Him in all my ways, He has said no to me when I thought perhaps the guy I was dating was the "one". God can see all of our hearts and our future by the choices we make. I've prayed for certain characteristics and qualities in a man, and I'm depending on God to direct him to me and him to me.
Do I believe there is one man that God has chosen and who if I don't marry, I'm doomed to be out of His will for the rest of my life? No. I can choose on my own. And I must deal with the consequences/benefits of that choice.
REALLY? - A woman should be so lost in God that a man will seek HIM first in order to find her?
Posted : 13 Feb, 2011 10:36 PM
Great discussion! You both have said some wonderful things.
Though a man finds a wife, he should see the Lord in the one he finds, and vice versa. God gave us our own personalities and uniqueness. However, whatever is in you is what undoubtedly comes out. So if a man meets a woman who is full of the Word and walks closely with the Lord, she's bound to say things and possibly do things that he wont understand if he isn't as full and as close to God as she is. In that case, he might have to seek HIM in a whole new way to relate to the new creature she's become.
REALLY? - A woman should be so lost in God that a man will seek HIM first in order to find her?
Posted : 14 Feb, 2011 04:11 AM
MissB,
Thanks for contributing intelligently to the discussion.
Hmmm, you raise a new dimension of interest to me: being "full of the word"
I have noticed a great difference between being full of love and being full of the word.
I don't know about you, but I am on this dating site looking for love because someone full of the word as I am disappointed.
I think the word emphasizes being full of HIS love rather than being full of the word. If being full of the word cannot sustain inter-personal relationship, then it is spurious and an aberration. Probably a religious zealotry.
I would prefer a woman who is full of love, because God is love.
The letter kills, while the spirit gives life. The Spirit is all about relationship as 1John teaches.
Have you wondered why Benny Hinn & spouse; Paula White & spouse; Juanita Bynum & spouse, and so many full of the word folks couldn't sustain their marriages?
Meanwhile some drunks and so-called sinners I know have been in loving, faithful marriages for decades. Its interesting, don't you think?
REALLY? - A woman should be so lost in God that a man will seek HIM first in order to find her?
Posted : 14 Feb, 2011 12:36 PM
Boaz,
u bring up a very valid point!
my 1 ex, is a word- filled Christian man, saved, and going to heaven, but as mean as a sore-bottomed rattlesnake!!!!!!!!!!!
My 2nd ex is still not saved, but he was a loving, kind-hearted, fun-loving, man. I loved him so very much, but he is very mentally ill, got violent, and now doesn't know who I am!
REALLY? - A woman should be so lost in God that a man will seek HIM first in order to find her?
Posted : 14 Feb, 2011 03:09 PM
Yes, very good points. Women should not have to be quoting scripture and yanking the God-given reins out of her man's hands. She should be herself and the sexiest woman on the earth to him in more ways than physically. She can say more that way than trying to be spiritual.
I agree that this "full of the word" idea is really a creation of the "hyperfaith" post-modern salespeople on the Christian TV network that speak the "spiritual" lingo to beg you and bleed you of your money so they can live the high life and jet set all over the world in the name of Christ while they mingle with the adulterers and live a bi-polar lifestyle.
Enough of the Christianese talk and let's get real about the agape love that Jesus walked and talked while He was on this earth. He did not walk around quoting 20 scriptures a day like it was some magic formula to get him his "prosperity and popularity." He was and is love, suffered, and came for relationship, not big, organizational groups of wanna-be super stars and women that prance around like Christian divas.
REALLY? - A woman should be so lost in God that a man will seek HIM first in order to find her?
Posted : 14 Feb, 2011 05:07 PM
Ms Joey, you blew the lid off this topic :applause: and I'm loving it.
I laughed so hard because of the pungency of your descriptive words. The words you used and your reasoning lined up in such a relevant way that every rational believer would agree with you.
Thanks for taking a stand for the truth here.
I noticed you are a writer, huh?
Well, I've been scouring for a Christian writer with whom I could collaborate for a novel/movie project on a purely business level. I have developed plots and full storylines - just need to synergize with a writer to push something out. The Lord tells me the works will be bestsellers.
Because of your privacy setting, I can't contact you - age disqualifies me :ROFL:
Get with me if you are interested or if you can refer someone to me, ok.
Be blessed and keep those pens busy: the pen is mightier than the sword, right?
