I'm in onother dating site, this question was asked as "Does souls really live forever?"
What I could pick up from their arguement was that, they don't know what a soul is, hense they argue about plants "that if plants eventually die yet they're souls too, then souls don't live forever"
I don't mean to bring subjects from other sites into this site, its only because this question got me thinking & wondering what really is a soul, let alone if it does live forever, cause it certainly does.
Was taken to my early days with God around 2008 when I got saved. This one time I was thinking of the oportunities that I missed everytime I was told about Jusus & felt that I was just not ready to be saved . Then I asked my self "Why was He chasing after me for so long?" (being glad ofcause that He finaly won me over) then a very soft yet powerful voice answered me "I wasn't interested on your physical being created from the dust but I'm more to what I entrusted the dust with to contain, my very breath. A human being wouldin't have been alive if I didn't breath my iternal breth to him"
I knew that was God talking to me. This questions about souls existing forever reminded me of that conversation with God. Is a souls more of Gods breath that He gave to Adam for him to start living, cause he was lying helpless before God gave He's breath?
Thank you all for your imput, suppose i'll have to go through all the quarted passages from the bible for more clearity & see what the Holy Spirit reveals.
Thank you so so much guys, had something profound & deep to take from everyones' answer.
Here you go, I'm sorry I didn't put the verses in there in the first place, I just got in a hurry.
Matthew 10:28
King James Version (KJV)
28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
1 Corinthians 15:53-54
King James Version (KJV)
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
Ezekiel 18:4
King James Version (KJV)
4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.
1 Timothy 6:15-16
King James Version (KJV)
15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords; 16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.
Job 4:17
King James Version (KJV)
17 Shall mortal man be more just than God? shall a man be more pure than his maker?
Ecclesiastes 3:19
King James Version (KJV)
19 For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity.
Ecclesiastes 9:5
King James Version (KJV)
5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
Ecclesiastes 9:10
King James Version (KJV)
10 Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest.
Psalm 115:17
King James Version (KJV)
17 The dead praise not the Lord, neither any that go down into silence.
Mt 10:28 the word Soul is simply designated as a living being, the word destroy is denoting death in the ceasing to exist, but as in eternal damnation, separated from God.
1st Cor 15:53 the corruptible and death are speaking of the human body, that will be changed just as Jesus's was made immortal, the same as that, that came out of the ground refereeing, to the body's of saints passed on earlier. The man the spirit does not ever cease to exist it will be separate from God in hell, then the lake of fire, he that is that alive unto God is in heaved, then comes to the earth for the millennial reign.
Ezekiel 18:4
Is like unto Mt 10:28 the context is truly about man can live or die eternally dying being separate from God.
1st Timothy 6:15-16
It seems self evident that the post are not to teach what a soul, is or the meaning of soul in a given context.
Some try to use this scripture to say that man is not eternal but the context is very clear, keep your eyes on the lord where your eternity is secure.
Job 4:17
Is much as is all this posting trying to justify man is immortal, the man in this context is in eternal trouble if he will not trust in the lord. Job knew man was a spirit
Job 10:12 Thou hast granted me life and favour, and thy visitation hath preserved my spirit.
Job 7: 11 Therefore I will not refrain my mouth; I will speak in the anguish of my spirit; I will complain in the bitterness of my soul.
Ecclesiastes 3:19
Ecc 3:21 Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth?
This setting is a good one again to validate man is a spirit being, the context is again about man trying to live without God and his reward if he will turn from his own ways.
In essence there is no separation of the living and the dead and the and the bible meaning of these terms,
Life is God
Death is not God and not of his ways separation he does not desire with man
Ok, but even granting that "man" is a "spirit" does not reinforce your claim that the "spirit" is immortal. And even that is sketchy. Man has a spirit, but I don't believe man is a spirit, and I don't see any biblical evidence for the claim that man IS a spirit. There is biblical evidence that God is a spirit, and also that only God has immortality, but I would like to see some evidence for your claims.
Ok, but even granting that "man" is a "spirit" does not reinforce your claim that the "spirit" is immortal. And even that is sketchy. Man has a spirit, but I don't believe man is a spirit, and I don't see any biblical evidence for the claim that man IS a spirit. There is biblical evidence that God is a spirit, and also that only God has immortality, but I would like to see some evidence for your claims.
1st man is a spirit being that has a soul and lives in a body while on the earth.
The word of God is not my claim it is my father's eternal living word, that abideth forever just as he said.
Man the spirit being will spend eternity with him or without him it is their choice the final choice being heaven or hell then, the lake of fire
I have show it to you several times, it is up to you to believe and any man that wants to can know the truth.
The same evidence that god is a Spirit is the same evidence that man is a spirit. No man can interpret the word of God and know him, you know him by accepting his word and acting upon, every thing you believe is something you have heard, that same precept will take you into the truth just ask him to reveal yo you, man made in his image and likeness? He will
You have not shown it to me. There is a verse in the bible that says that only God has immortality, I would like to see your claim that man is an immortal spirit to be backed up by bible verses. If it's God's word and not just your claim, then it shouldn't be that difficult.
Ecc 3:21 Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth?
This is the only verse that has any evidence toward your claim that you've posted so far(out of 3 or 4), but it's the wisest man in the world asking who knows where the spirit goes, and in context, he's saying that there is no difference between a man and a beast when they die.
KJV
19 For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity. 20 All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again. 21 Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth?
NIV
18 I also said to myself, �As for humans, God tests them so that they may see that they are like the animals. 19 Surely the fate of human beings is like that of the animals; the same fate awaits them both: As one dies, so dies the other. All have the same breath[c]; humans have no advantage over animals. Everything is meaningless. 20 All go to the same place; all come from dust, and to dust all return. 21 Who knows if the human spirit rises upward and if the spirit of the animal goes down into the earth?�
ESV
19 For what happens to the children of man and what happens to the beasts is the same; as one dies, so dies the other. They all have the same breath, and man has no advantage over the beasts, for all is vanity.[b] 20 All go to one place. All are from the dust, and to dust all return. 21 Who knows whether the spirit of man goes upward and the spirit of the beast goes down into the earth?
Anyway, I agree that a man HAS a spirit, it's referred to many times in the bible, but can you show me a verse that says men are immortal or have immortal spirits? I'll take just one, preferably a clear one.
