so there is the question : Is it okay for a man to sleep with a man? And if not how do you know? Who taught this? Did YAHSHUA teach this? IF not then were does it come from?
If it came from the Torah and the old law is done away with then does that mean since i don't remember YAHSHUA teaching on it that it is one of the old laws to be done away with? So now can men sleep with men if the old law is gone??
I would not say that I am overly sensitive, and if I am then that shows that I put others feelings above my own, and that is what God calls us to. Do I disagree with the scripture, NO, do I disagree with the way that it was presented, yea a little. I believe as Christians we have to be very careful in how we say and do things. We're not better than anyone, especially non-Christians we're just saved by grace, and they see us as thinking we're better than they are, just sit and talk to them for awhile.
Beachbunny, what are your thoughts on I Corinthians chapters 5-6? Please take a little time and read it and then tell me what you think.
Also, what is Holy Boldness in the Word? God doesn't call us to walk around on egg shells, nor has He called us to be silent or sensitive when speaking His word of truth to the lost or sinners.
The gospel was preached by Jesus and the disciple and Paul with power, authority, and Holy boldness wihtout fear. And Jesus called out the Pharises and the disciples and Paul called out the Judiazers and other sects openly who oppsed the gospel they preach. In fact, Paul even called out Peter in front of the group for his hypocrisy.
Is it not written that the Scriptures are for rebuke, reproof, instructions, and corrections, etc. So please tell me how gentle does one be when rebuking or reproving, correcting, or insturcting?
Tough love ain't about walking on egg shells just to not offened another person. Tough Love is not about not offending a person. Tough Love tells the truth no matter how rough, and truth ALWAYS OFFENDS.
The gospel is about offending the lost and sinners, when bad behavior is corrected, reproved, rebuked, people are indeed offend, and that's a good thing, it make one aware of such behavior not pleasing to God. Jesus say blessed are those who ARE NOT OFFENDED BY HIM.
The truth of the gospel is not about making a person feel good are comfortable inside, its about making a person uprooted out of their comfort zones, that brings abour CHANGE BEHAVIOR..tipping toeing through the tulips to protect a person's feelings, ain't even in the gospel, hurt feeling will mend, and bring a person to repentance...
Paul never bites his tongue in the book of Acts or in his letters, he calls a sinner a sinner, a liar a liar. So if a man is a homsexual, he's a homosexual and GOD SAYS HE IS GOING TO HELL! Because a man sleeping aorunf with another man, or a woman sleeping aorund with another woman IS A SIN!!!.. and if there is no repentance, THEY ARE HELL BOUND! The truth OFFENDS, but it still doesn't change the truth of God's word! Hell is the end results of SIN!
The saddness is when Christians wlak around thinking they are being good Christians by being siltent to sin as not to offend a person. That's the saddnes that hurts the heart of God. Becasue we are called come forth with Holy Boldness and confront sin and evil as Paul write in Titus chapter 3, with a harsh rebuke before others, so that they will be afraid and make a change.
I'm thinking Ice, is speaking about two men in a sexual relationship as in the Torah and the Old Testament, and this is what God is speaking about.
I'm sure he is not speaking about two men, (father and son, or brother and brothers, or two male relatives sleeping in the same bed, and one is taken and the other one is left.
Hey pix I have to say the that way in which WWI started I do find fascinating. Kind of wierd how a country threatened other countries for interferring when that's exactly what they were doing!! Of course history is what I love!!
i started so hard! u got me trouble with the librarian!
all arguing aside, (COME'ON NOW BE SERRIOUS)
I have very, very, many Gay and Lesbean'sp" friends. They may be sinning, however, I love them, they are like my sons and daughters, I have a tender heart for them, and want to share Christ with them.
Unfortunatly, Sometimes these gay friends have been kinder to me and my daughter then some so called Christians, also unfortunatly, when I finally got one of my gay "sons" to church, he was treet so coldly, he never went back!
How SHOULD we treet gay friends, as well as other unsaved friends?
Totally agree Debra...but thats not the Topic of Discussion...but since you brought it up...
One of closest Lady friends is Gay...She asked if she could come to Church...Heck Ya !!!...She asked will the Pastor look down upon me ?...I said...well He does stand on a stage so ifin you be below the stage line I guess so...but ifin you be above it...ya can look down on him...What ever floats yer boat...She replied with...I mean..well he tell me Im a Sinner because I am Gay ?...I replied...I have never heard my Pastor speak or mention anything about Gays....ever....and there are for sure some in our Church...She asked me if I believed it is a Sin ? I replied...Let Us go to WORD and see what GOD says...I showed her...She asked me if I still love her as a friend and person ?...my answer...Abosolutely !!! but I dont agree with your Choice and I sure wouldnt want to get to Pearly Gates and notice that you werent there...All I know is what GOD says is SO...So when we goin ta Church...This Sunday ?...Yep !!!...xo
If you stick to the question of whether or not homosexuality is a sin or not, then the answer is yes. Is that being judgmental, no. The Law of God is just that, the Law. It would be no different than telling someone that murder is illegal. Murder is against the law, that is a fact, not a judgment.
I fail to see how people are being judgmental by stating a fact.
And I'm glad my comment was worth some laughs... haha...
@Storm- I'm taking a class called "World War 1 in History and Literature" and it's really interesting so far, although the amount of reading is a little overwhelming with my other classes and other things going on... This weekend, I get to immerse myself in "Good-bye To All That," the autobiography of Robert Graves. I have 9 more days to finish it and I've barely started! Yikes!
so hard! u got me trouble with the librarian!