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Posted : 13 Apr, 2018 09:43 PM

I've discussed the truth of the 6 day creation from Genesis 1 in previous threads. I believe the truth of Genesis one is so incredibly clear that it hardly requires commentary. But others do not agree, they want to include Secular Humanist commentary to explain Genesis one. They believe God must have used evolutionary processes to create the earth in its very beginning. Still others, who shun evolution, accept evolutionary premises i.e. a millions of years old earth and universe. They also believe millions of years of death and dying took place on a prehistoric "old earth" long before Adam sinned. I object all Humanistic explanation of origins and it's evolutionary theories because they contradict the clear teaching found in Genesis one.

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Posted : 20 Apr, 2018 06:17 AM

Little David is new to this forum and has opened 3 threads which states that there is nothing on this earth which is over 6,000 years old. David has made 42 posts on these 3 threads and has not even quoted**ONE WORD OF SCRIPTURE** to support his view; including not even **ONE WORD IN GENESIS ONE**. David has wrongly condemned those who quote God's Word and disagree with his views in 28 posts; as evolutionists that believe the earth is millions of years old and contradict God's Word. And yet he refuses to quote even **ONE WORD OF SCRIPTURE** to defend his views or to contradict anyone who disagrees with him.



David, who has zero knowledge of Carbon 14 Dating Science has stated that Carbon 14 Dating does not prove that anything on this earth ia over 6,000 years old, that all dinosaurs are less than 6,000 years old and that nothing in the Grand Canyon is over 6,000 years old.



I Timothy 3:16,17: All Scripture is **GOD-BREATHED** and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead and in view of His appearing and His Kingdom, I give you this charge: **PREACH THE WORD**; be prepared in season in out of season, correct, rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction. For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear!!



I Peter 1:23-25: For you have been **BORN AGAIN**, not of perishable seed but the imperishable, through the living and enduring **WORD OF GOD**. For all people {like little David} are like grass, and all their glory is like flowers in the field; the grass withers and the flowers fail, but the **WORD OF THE LORD ENDURES FOREVER**!!



John 17:17: Jesus prayed to His Father, "Sanctify them by the **TRUTH**; **YOUR WORD IS TRUTH**!"



All Christians who love **GOD'S WORD** are waiting for little David to quote even **ONE WORD OF SCRIPTURE** in any of his threads!!



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Posted : 20 Apr, 2018 08:01 AM

Richard you continue to resist believing what God says about the beginning of the earth. Although you don't believe everything evolution says about beginnings, you ***do***believe some of evolution's assumptions like a "very old earth". Even though God's Word clearly says: "IN THE BEGINNING GOD CREATED..." This beginning started on DAY ONE!!! ***NOT on DAY 3 >>>like you say<<<, You say this because YOU want to believe the assumptions of evolutionists concerning carbon14 . ***Assumptions are not facts!!***! But you refuse to believe God's ***SURE***word which says GOD CREATED THE EARTH IN 6 DAYS WITHOUT *** imaginary gaps*** between days!!!!!



RICHARD STOP BEING DECEIVED by Satan LIKE EVE. Stop allowing Satan to twist God's Word!

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Posted : 20 Apr, 2018 11:36 AM

Little David is new to this forum and has opened 3 threads which states that there is nothing on this earth which is over 6,000 years old. David has made 42 posts on these 3 threads and has not even quoted**ONE WORD OF SCRIPTURE** to support his view; including not even **ONE WORD IN GENESIS ONE**. David has wrongly condemned those who quote God's Word and disagree with his views in 28 posts; as evolutionists that believe the earth is millions of years old and contradict God's Word. And yet he refuses to quote even **ONE WORD OF SCRIPTURE** to defend his views or to contradict anyone who disagrees with him.



David, who has zero knowledge of Carbon 14 Dating Science has stated that Carbon 14 Dating does not prove that anything on this earth ia over 6,000 years old, that all dinosaurs are less than 6,000 years old and that nothing in the Grand Canyon is over 6,000 years old.



I Timothy 3:16,17: All Scripture is **GOD-BREATHED** and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead and in view of His appearing and His Kingdom, I give you this charge: **PREACH THE WORD**; be prepared in season in out of season, correct, rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction. For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear!!



I Peter 1:23-25: For you have been **BORN AGAIN**, not of perishable seed but the imperishable, through the living and enduring **WORD OF GOD**. For all people {like little David} are like grass, and all their glory is like flowers in the field; the grass withers and the flowers fail, but the **WORD OF THE LORD ENDURES FOREVER**!!



John 17:17: Jesus prayed to His Father, "Sanctify them by the **TRUTH**; **YOUR WORD IS TRUTH**!"



All Christians who love **GOD'S WORD** are waiting for little David to quote even **ONE WORD OF SCRIPTURE** in any of his threads!!



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Posted : 20 Apr, 2018 12:02 PM

Genesis 1:1,2: In the beginning God created the **HEAVENS** and the earth. Now the earth was **FORMLESS AND EMPTY**, **DARKNESS** {**AFTER GOD CREATED THE HEAVENS THEY BECAME DARK**} was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the **WATERS!** {And then God created **MORE WATER** on the old earth on the 2nd Day as per Genesis 1:6 and on the 3rd day as per Genesis 1:10]



And since after God created the **HEAVENS** and then they became **DARK** God then **RECREATED THE HEAVENS** on the old earth on the 4th Day as per Genesis 1:14-17!!!



Just before each of God's 6 days of RECREATION {**NOT 7 DAYS**} we see the phrase: And God said, "Let...



God said, Let... on the **FIRST DAY** in Genesis 1:3-5 **SECOND DAY** Genesis 1:6-8 **THIRD DAY** Genesis 1:9-13 **FOURTH DAY** Genesis 1:14-19 **FIFTH DAY** Genesis 1:20-23 **SIXTH DAY** Genesis 1:24-31



It is interesting to note that during God's 6 days of Recreation in Genesis 1:3-31 He never mentions creating the **EARTH** since God had already **CREATED EARTH** **BEFORE** the 6 days of His Recreation!!



Does God's word say in other Scripture that the present earth was ever **FORMLESS AND EMPTY** with **DARKNESS**???



Jeremiah 4:23-28: The Lord Almighty said, "I looked at the earth and it was **FORMLESS AND EMPTY**, and at the heavens, and their **LIGHT WAS GONE**.I looked at the mountains, and they were quaking; all the hills were swaying. I looked and there were no people, every bird in the sky **HAD FLOWN AWAY**. I looked and the **FRUITFUL LAND HAD BECOME A DESERT**; all its towns lay in ruins before the Lord, before His fierce anger!" This is what the Lord says, The whole land will be ruined, though I will **NOT DESTROY IT COMPLETELY**, Therefore the earth will mourn and the **HEAVENS ABOVE GROW ** DARK**, because I have spoken and will not relent, I have decided and will not turn back!!"



Now some will say the context Of Jeremiah explains something different. However God has said over 100 things in the OT that were out of context like Isaiah 7:14 and Isaiah 7:13 and Isaiah 7:15 had absolutely nothing to do with Isaiah 7:14: The Lord Himself will give you a sign: The virgin will conceive and give birth to a Son, and you will call **IMMANUEL**! {Which means **GOD WITH US**!}



David, That Dinosaurs became extinct about 22,000 years ago or that Neanderthals with the intelligence of an ape, became extinct about 40,000 years ago or that many things in the Grand Canyon are 10,000 to 50,000 years old has absolutely nothing to do with evolution and millions of years that you wrongfully accuse me of. Your ridiculous belief that Noah's flood caused all the dozens of strata in the Grand Canyon is only believed by the extremely ignorant!!



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Posted : 20 Apr, 2018 06:06 PM

Richard, I've asked you many times to quote one verse that says there was a very old earth before Genesis 1:1. And to show one verse that says there was death and dying before sin. But You continue to ignore my question or you quote random verses that say nothing about your evolution old earth and evolution's death and dying before Adam sinned.

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Posted : 20 Apr, 2018 06:36 PM

Genesis 1:1,2: In the beginning God created the **HEAVENS** and the earth. Now the earth was **FORMLESS AND EMPTY**, **DARKNESS** {**AFTER GOD CREATED THE HEAVENS THEY BECAME DARK**} was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the **WATERS!** {And then God created **MORE WATER** on the old earth on the 2nd Day as per Genesis 1:6 and on the 3rd day as per Genesis 1:10]



And since after God created the **HEAVENS** and then they became **DARK** God then **RECREATED THE HEAVENS** on the old earth on the 4th Day as per Genesis 1:14-17!!!



Just before each of God's 6 days of RECREATION {**NOT 7 DAYS**} we see the phrase: And God said, "Let...



God said, Let... on the **FIRST DAY** in Genesis 1:3-5 **SECOND DAY** Genesis 1:6-8 **THIRD DAY** Genesis 1:9-13 **FOURTH DAY** Genesis 1:14-19 **FIFTH DAY** Genesis 1:20-23 **SIXTH DAY** Genesis 1:24-31



It is interesting to note that during God's 6 days of Recreation in Genesis 1:3-31 He never mentions creating the **EARTH** since God had already **CREATED EARTH** **BEFORE** the 6 days of His Recreation!!



Does God's word say in other Scripture that the present earth was ever **FORMLESS AND EMPTY** with **DARKNESS**???



Jeremiah 4:23-28: The Lord Almighty said, "I looked at the earth and it was **FORMLESS AND EMPTY**, and at the heavens, and their **LIGHT WAS GONE**.I looked at the mountains, and they were quaking; all the hills were swaying. I looked and there were no people, every bird in the sky **HAD FLOWN AWAY**. I looked and the **FRUITFUL LAND HAD BECOME A DESERT**; all its towns lay in ruins before the Lord, before His fierce anger!" This is what the Lord says, The whole land will be ruined, though I will **NOT DESTROY IT COMPLETELY**, Therefore the earth will mourn and the **HEAVENS ABOVE GROW ** DARK**, because I have spoken and will not relent, I have decided and will not turn back!!"



Now some will say the context Of Jeremiah explains something different. However God has said over 100 things in the OT that were out of context like Isaiah 7:14 and Isaiah 7:13 and Isaiah 7:15 had absolutely nothing to do with Isaiah 7:14: The Lord Himself will give you a sign: The virgin will conceive and give birth to a Son, and you will call **IMMANUEL**! {Which means **GOD WITH US**!}



David, That Dinosaurs became extinct about 22,000 years ago or that Neanderthals with the intelligence of an ape, became extinct about 40,000 years ago or that many things in the Grand Canyon are 10,000 to 50,000 years old has absolutely nothing to do with evolution and millions of years that you wrongfully accuse me of. Your ridiculous belief that Noah's flood caused all the dozens of strata in the Grand Canyon is only believed by the extremely ignorant!!



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Posted : 21 Apr, 2018 05:41 AM

RICHARD SAYS THE FOLLOWING:



Genesis 1:1,2: In the beginning God created the **HEAVENS** and the earth. Now the earth was **FORMLESS AND EMPTY**, **DARKNESS** {**AFTER GOD CREATED THE HEAVENS THEY BECAME DARK**} was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the **WATERS!** {And then God created **MORE WATER** on the old earth on the 2nd Day as per Genesis 1:6 and on the 3rd day as per Genesis 1:10]



>>>>>NOTICE RICHARD HAS ADDED HIS OWN WORDS<<<<<



1st Quote of Richard: {{"And then God created **MORE WATER**}}



>>>>>>RICHARDS WORDS ARE NOT FOUND IN GENESIS 1<<<<<











RICHARD SAYS THE FOLLOWING:



And since after God created the **HEAVENS** and then they became **DARK** God then **RECREATED THE HEAVENS** on the old earth on the 4th Day as per Genesis 1:14-17!!!



>>>>>NOTICE RICHARD HAS ADDED HIS OWN WORDS YET AGAIN<<<<



2nd Quote of Richard: "God then **RECREATED THE HEAVENS** on the old earth on the 4th Day as per Genesis 1:14-17!!"



>>>>>>RICHARDS WORDS AGAIN ARE NOT FOUND IN GENESIS1<<<<<









RICHARD SAYS THE FOLLOWING:



Just before each of God's 6 days of RECREATION {**NOT 7 DAYS**} we see the phrase: And God said, "Let...



>>>>HERE, ONCE AGAIN, RICHARD ADDS THE WORD "RECREATION" which is not found in Genesis 1 !!













RICHARD SAYS THE FOLLOWING:

It is interesting to note that during God's 6 days of Recreation in Genesis 1:3-31 He never mentions creating the **EARTH** since God had already **CREATED EARTH** **BEFORE** the 6 days of His Recreation!!



>>>>HERE RICHARD ARTIFICIALLY SHATTERS THE ORIGINAL 6 DAY CREATION, found in Genesis 1!! HE DOES THIS SO HE CAN ****INSERT**** HIS "RECREATED EARTH"<<<<<









RICHARD SAYS THE FOLLOWING:

Does God's word say in other Scripture that the present earth was ever **FORMLESS AND EMPTY** with **DARKNESS**???



Jeremiah 4:23-28: The Lord Almighty said, "I looked at the earth and it was **FORMLESS AND EMPTY**, and at the heavens, and their **LIGHT WAS GONE**.I looked at the mountains, and they were quaking; all the hills were swaying. I looked and there were no people, every bird in the sky **HAD FLOWN AWAY**. I looked and the **FRUITFUL LAND HAD BECOME A DESERT**; all its towns lay in ruins before the Lord, before His fierce anger!" This is what the Lord says, The whole land will be ruined, though I will **NOT DESTROY IT COMPLETELY**, Therefore the earth will mourn and the **HEAVENS ABOVE GROW ** DARK**, because I have spoken and will not relent, I have decided and will not turn back!!"



>>>>HERE RICHARD ASSUMES THE MEANINGS OF "FORMLESS AND EMPTY" ALWAYS REMAIN THE SAME REGARDLESS OF CONTEXT. HERE RICHARD COMMITTS A COMMON INTERPRETIVE ERROR BY IGNORING DISTINCT CONTEXTS. THESE CONTEXTS, WRITTEN BY SEPARATE AUTHORS, SPEAK TO DIFFERENT MATTERS ALTHOUGH USING SIMILAR WORDS<<<<









RICHARD SAYS THE FOLLOWING:

Now some will say the context Of Jeremiah explains something different. However God has said over 100 things in the OT that were out of context like Isaiah 7:14 and Isaiah 7:13 and Isaiah 7:15 had absolutely nothing to do with Isaiah 7:14: The Lord Himself will give you a sign: The virgin will conceive and give birth to a Son, and you will call **IMMANUEL**! {Which means **GOD WITH US**!}



>>>>>HERE RICHARD ASSUMES THAT SPECIFIC CONTEXTS FROM OTHER WRITINGS, THAT DIFFER INTERNALLY, GIVE HIM LICENSE TO TWIST SCRIPTURE AS HE SEES FIT<<<<<





RICHARD SAYS THE FOLLOWING:

David, That Dinosaurs became extinct about 22,000 years ago or that Neanderthals with the intelligence of an ape, became extinct about 40,000 years ago or that many things in the Grand Canyon are 10,000 to 50,000 years old has absolutely nothing to do with evolution and millions of years that you wrongfully accuse me of. Your ridiculous belief that Noah's flood caused all the dozens of strata in the Grand Canyon is only believed by the extremely ignorant!!



>>>>HERE RICHARD DENIES ACCEPTING BELIEF THAT IS ANTI BIBLICAL. Although the Bible clearly says death and suffering did not occur until after Adam sinned, Richard casts aside this biblical teaching to adopt a secular humanist perspective.

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Posted : 21 Apr, 2018 06:38 AM

Genesis 1:1,2: In the beginning God created the **HEAVENS** and the earth. Now the earth was **FORMLESS AND EMPTY**, **DARKNESS** {**AFTER GOD CREATED THE HEAVENS THEY BECAME DARK**} was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the **WATERS!** {And then God created **MORE WATER** on the old earth on the 2nd Day as per Genesis 1:6 and on the 3rd day as per Genesis 1:10]



And since after God created the **HEAVENS** and then they became **DARK** God then **RECREATED THE HEAVENS** on the old earth on the 4th Day as per Genesis 1:14-17!!!



Just before each of God's 6 days of RECREATION {**NOT 7 DAYS**} we see the phrase: And God said, "Let...



God said, Let... on the **FIRST DAY** in Genesis 1:3-5 **SECOND DAY** Genesis 1:6-8 **THIRD DAY** Genesis 1:9-13 **FOURTH DAY** Genesis 1:14-19 **FIFTH DAY** Genesis 1:20-23 **SIXTH DAY** Genesis 1:24-31



It is interesting to note that during God's 6 days of Recreation in Genesis 1:3-31 He never mentions creating the **EARTH** since God had already **CREATED EARTH** **BEFORE** the 6 days of His Recreation!!



Does God's word say in other Scripture that the present earth was ever **FORMLESS AND EMPTY** with **DARKNESS**???



Jeremiah 4:23-28: The Lord Almighty said, "I looked at the earth and it was **FORMLESS AND EMPTY**, and at the heavens, and their **LIGHT WAS GONE**.I looked at the mountains, and they were quaking; all the hills were swaying. I looked and there were no people, every bird in the sky **HAD FLOWN AWAY**. I looked and the **FRUITFUL LAND HAD BECOME A DESERT**; all its towns lay in ruins before the Lord, before His fierce anger!" This is what the Lord says, The whole land will be ruined, though I will **NOT DESTROY IT COMPLETELY**, Therefore the earth will mourn and the **HEAVENS ABOVE GROW ** DARK**, because I have spoken and will not relent, I have decided and will not turn back!!"



Now some will say the context Of Jeremiah explains something different. However God has said over 100 things in the OT that were out of context like Isaiah 7:14 and Isaiah 7:13 and Isaiah 7:15 had absolutely nothing to do with Isaiah 7:14: The Lord Himself will give you a sign: The virgin will conceive and give birth to a Son, and you will call **IMMANUEL**! {Which means **GOD WITH US**!}



David, That Dinosaurs became extinct about 22,000 years ago or that Neanderthals with the intelligence of an ape, became extinct about 40,000 years ago or that many things in the Grand Canyon are 10,000 to 50,000 years old has absolutely nothing to do with evolution and millions of years that you wrongfully accuse me of. Your ridiculous belief that Noah's flood caused all the dozens of strata in the Grand Canyon is only believed by the extremely ignorant!!



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Posted : 21 Apr, 2018 09:46 AM

Richard, please answer the questions I sent you. Why won't you provide answers that justify your anti-biblical beliefs????

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Posted : 21 Apr, 2018 10:06 AM

Genesis 1:1,2: In the beginning God created the **HEAVENS** and the earth. Now the earth was **FORMLESS AND EMPTY**, **DARKNESS** {**AFTER GOD CREATED THE HEAVENS THEY BECAME DARK**} was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the **WATERS!** {And then God created **MORE WATER** on the old earth on the 2nd Day as per Genesis 1:6 and on the 3rd day as per Genesis 1:10]



And since after God created the **HEAVENS** and then they became **DARK** God then **RECREATED THE HEAVENS** on the old earth on the 4th Day as per Genesis 1:14-17!!!



Just before each of God's 6 days of RECREATION {**NOT 7 DAYS**} we see the phrase: And God said, "Let...



God said, Let... on the **FIRST DAY** in Genesis 1:3-5 **SECOND DAY** Genesis 1:6-8 **THIRD DAY** Genesis 1:9-13 **FOURTH DAY** Genesis 1:14-19 **FIFTH DAY** Genesis 1:20-23 **SIXTH DAY** Genesis 1:24-31



It is interesting to note that during God's 6 days of Recreation in Genesis 1:3-31 He never mentions creating the **EARTH** since God had already **CREATED EARTH** **BEFORE** the 6 days of His Recreation!!



Does God's word say in other Scripture that the present earth was ever **FORMLESS AND EMPTY** with **DARKNESS**???



Jeremiah 4:23-28: The Lord Almighty said, "I looked at the earth and it was **FORMLESS AND EMPTY**, and at the heavens, and their **LIGHT WAS GONE**.I looked at the mountains, and they were quaking; all the hills were swaying. I looked and there were no people, every bird in the sky **HAD FLOWN AWAY**. I looked and the **FRUITFUL LAND HAD BECOME A DESERT**; all its towns lay in ruins before the Lord, before His fierce anger!" This is what the Lord says, The whole land will be ruined, though I will **NOT DESTROY IT COMPLETELY**, Therefore the earth will mourn and the **HEAVENS ABOVE GROW ** DARK**, because I have spoken and will not relent, I have decided and will not turn back!!"



Now some will say the context Of Jeremiah explains something different. However God has said over 100 things in the OT that were out of context like Isaiah 7:14 and Isaiah 7:13 and Isaiah 7:15 had absolutely nothing to do with Isaiah 7:14: The Lord Himself will give you a sign: The virgin will conceive and give birth to a Son, and you will call **IMMANUEL**! {Which means **GOD WITH US**!}



David, That Dinosaurs became extinct about 22,000 years ago or that Neanderthals with the intelligence of an ape, became extinct about 40,000 years ago or that many things in the Grand Canyon are 10,000 to 50,000 years old has absolutely nothing to do with evolution and millions of years that you wrongfully accuse me of. Your ridiculous belief that Noah's flood caused all the dozens of strata in the Grand Canyon is only believed by the extremely ignorant!!



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