Did Jesus reject Moses' reasons for divorce in Matthew 19?
Posted : 6 Dec, 2015 05:32 PM
Did Jesus Christ reject the practices of Moses related to allowing divorce; and say there is only one legitimate reason which allows a person to obtain a divorce, marry another, and not commit adultery?
a) yes b) no
Matthew 19:3-8 "The Pharisees also came to Him, testing Him, and saying to Him, "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for just any reason?" And He answered and said to them, "Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning 'made them male and female,' and said, 'For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh'? So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate." They said to Him, "Why then did Moses command to give her a certificate of divorce, and to put her away?" He said to them, "Moses, because of the hardness of your hearts permitted you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so."
Did Jesus reject Moses' reasons for divorce in Matthew 19?
Posted : 17 Dec, 2015 05:56 PM
re: "You used a Hellenized..."
You were asked for source information. You failed to provide any. If you are not willing to provide what you consider to be the acceptable text, why then are you complaining about what text people use? If we are in such blatant error, as you seem to suggest with your comments, why don't you make a reasonable attempt to provide the correct information, instead of "hiding it under a basket"?
Did Jesus reject Moses' reasons for divorce in Matthew 19?
Posted : 19 Dec, 2015 05:46 AM
GodsJude
In answer to you question pertaining to abusive marriages, this is clearly a sensitive issue and I have to admit to having no experience with abusive marriages from any perspective (to my knowledge!)
I do however feel that Jesus is able to mend any marriage, even adulterous ones if both parties humble themselves before him. And for this reason I cannot believe that even this is a good reason for divorce.
Of course a person should attempt to make themselves safe, and the abuser should not go unpunished, but a marriage that has been consummated should not simply end because one person has been overcome with demons, there should be extensive prayer and council from church elders and the matter should be handed over to the Lord.
It is a whole other matter if the abuser is not born again, this is of course one very good reason for Christians not to yoke themselves to unbelievers. But I still believe that Christ is able to save the marriage if it is his will.
If it is not his will, then, as far as I'm concerned, you make your bed and you lie in it. In fact it may well be that the marriage failed because it was not Gods will in the first place, but that's a whole other subject. Marriage is not the be all and end all though, Christ is, we need to remember that.
If a person is totally in love with Christ, and has denied themselves sufficiently, then they really ought to be content with Gods will in this matter, and stop trying to find a way to satisfy their own desires.
Did Jesus reject Moses' reasons for divorce in Matthew 19?
Posted : 19 Dec, 2015 06:33 AM
"Marriage is not the be all and end all though, Christ is, we need to remember that."
Isaiah 45
5 I am YHWH, and there is no other; apart from me there is no God. 7 I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, YHWH, do all these things. 12 It is I who made the earth and created mankind upon it. My own hands stretched out the heavens; I marshaled their starry hosts. 18 For this is what YHWH says He who created the heavens, He is God; He who fashioned and made the earth, He founded it; He did not create it to be empty, but formed it to be inhabited He says: I am YHWHh, and there is no other
Isaiah 46
5 To whom will you compare me or count me equal? To whom will you liken me that we may be compared? 8 Remember this, fix it in mind, take it to heart, you rebels. 9 Remember the former things, those of long ago; I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like me. 10 I make known the end from the beginning, from ancient times, what is still to come. I say: My purpose will stand, and I will do all that I please.
Did Jesus reject Moses' reasons for divorce in Matthew 19?
Posted : 21 Dec, 2015 12:14 PM
Thank you Carl for answering my question. I totally agree with all you have shared. From what I've seen of failed marriages...it is because of being out of Papa Gods will and unevenly yoked. People rush into the flesh of the moment and then after are left wondering why they have nothing in common...they put the proverbial cart before the horse...we live in a "Throw Away Society" here in the USA and it is heart sickening to say the lest.
I do know, trust and believe that Papa God Forgives All sins...and rewards those that Obey Him and His desire for us...We learn...We live...We laugh...We cry...and We LOVE...GOD's continued Blessings to you brother...and a Blessed and Merry Christmas !!! xo
Did Jesus reject Moses' reasons for divorce in Matthew 19?
Posted : 22 Dec, 2015 11:27 PM
re:
"Again: Strong's H5703"
Do I understand correctly that you consider Strong's Concordance an authoritative source for defining words found in the bible? Or, is it just some of the words in Strong's Concordance which are reliable?
And if it is just some of the words, where can I find the list of reliably translated words in Strong's Concordance?