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Admin	Vanity of Vanity, All is Vanity. Posted : 14 Apr, 2013 07:22 AM The question is: If Everything is meaningless, then what's the purpose of our existence? Why did God bring the world into existence in the first place? If we were all just to be born,toil,and die, what's that mean? What do you think was in God's mind when he brought the world, us into being? (just a self study, if you have other explanation please share.) Post Reply
flyby View Profile History	Vanity of Vanity, All is Vanity. Posted : 18 Apr, 2013 07:05 PM The short answer is for the glory of God. As far as everything is meaningless, well yea life really sucks and is mean and spiteful and ppl tread on ya and its ugly and ya look and some do so well and stand on top least so they think. But on the other hand some are just so beautiful and innocent and sweet and care so much and often we over look those searching for our next step and material items. With all the terrible, horrible things I�ve seen and done in life, I cant thank Jesus Christ enough for showing me the most beautiful things, the innocense and the love and Ill never forget or trade or belittle them for any reason and that�s the meaning, to overcome and praise the Lord, for His glory. I wonder why no other reply to this question, I was glad to see it sister! Post Reply
View Profile History	Vanity of Vanity, All is Vanity. Posted : 19 Apr, 2013 03:49 PM All is vanity under the Sun .......Not under the SON. Post Reply
DontHitThatMark View Profile History	Vanity of Vanity, All is Vanity. Posted : 19 Apr, 2013 08:37 PM If God is truly love, then He it is a natural outworking of his character to create beings to interact with, and creations for them to enjoy together. It's pretty impossible to be the biblical definition of "loving" and hoard everything to yourself. It's impossible to be "loving" and only make things for yourself to enjoy. It's impossible to be "loving" and only create beings that have no choice but to love you. So God molded worlds and created living beings to inhabit them, and interacted with them personally, and wanted nothing but to bring them happiness and peace, and died for them when they chose to destroy themselves. Like somebody said already, the only thing that ISN'T vain in this world is to love and follow and emulate that God, and share him and his love with other people. God is glorious and deserves glory only because he is worthy, because he is "love". :peace::peace: Post Reply
View Profile History	Vanity of Vanity, All is Vanity. Posted : 21 Apr, 2013 04:29 AM Well said. Post Reply
View Profile History	Vanity of Vanity, All is Vanity. Posted : 27 May, 2013 10:09 AM Thanks Gentlemen :-) I agree but why would God create something for his own glory? Isn't that selfish? Just asking. Post Reply
DontHitThatMark View Profile History	Vanity of Vanity, All is Vanity. Posted : 27 May, 2013 01:35 PM Well, that all depends on the definition of glory. What is God's "glory". Why is He "glorious"? Why does he do things for his glory, or for his "name's sake"? I think we have to be careful about putting our dictionary definitions onto what God is saying sometimes, and I think it's easy to miss that the problem of sin goes beyond this planet, and that there is a war going on over the question of whose government is better, God's or Satan's? Satan was able to deceive 1/3 of the angels to actually follow him in open war against God, and that leads me to believe that an accusation was leveled against God's character and his kingdom by Satan, one that was convincing enough to pervert holy angels to rebellion. That's why I think Jesus said "It is finished" when He died on the cross, the love/character of God was displayed on the cross in Jesus for the universe to see that God is who He says He is. He is righteous and sinless and loving and merciful, and to me, that is what gives God His "glory". So when He says He's doing something for "His Glory", personally, I take it to mean that He's doing something which is evidence/vindication of His character, against the accusations of Satan. Besides, God creating something that can disobey and rebel against him, and steal his most loyal servants, and pervert his creation, and destroy his children, does not sound like something a god would do to give himself adoration, and praise, and our human definition of glory. There is much that is happening that does not give God "glory". Wide is the road that leads to destruction, and many go that way, far more than those who choose God, which is against God's own desire. God doesn't want any to perish. Here are some verses that show me that the "glory" of God is what changes us into His image, and that glory is seen in the face of Jesus, who came as a living revelation of what God is like. When Israel was in the wilderness, God had Moses create a serpent on a pole(Jesus on the Cross) for the bitten(sinful) israelites to look at and be "healed"(changed), which is an object lesson that pointed to Jesus. It is quite literally the belief in the sacrifice of love by God, and by/thru Jesus, that brings us salvation and changes us. I'd say that would be the dictionary definition of what God means when He's talking about doing things that bring Him "glory", simply whatever He does that shows what He's really like. I can't imagine Jesus creating things just for himself to enjoy or simply to bring himself what we think of as "glory", He would have created robots that could not disobey Him if selfishness was His motivation in making things. 2 Cor. 3:18 "But we all, with unveiled face beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord." 2 Cor. 4:6 "For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, has shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ." Exodus 33 17And the LORD said unto Moses, I will do this thing also that you have spoken: for you have found grace in my sight, and I know you by name. 18And he said, I beseech you, :bouncy:show me your glory.:bouncy: 19And he said, I will make all my goodness pass before you, and I will proclaim the name of the LORD before you; and will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will show mercy on whom I will show mercy. Exodus 34(continuation of the previous chapter) 5And the LORD descended in the cloud, and stood with him there, and proclaimed the name of the LORD. 6And the LORD passed by before him, and proclaimed, The LORD, The LORD God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth, 7Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation. :peace::peace: Post Reply
View Profile History	Vanity of Vanity, All is Vanity. Posted : 29 May, 2013 09:52 AM mmm...Nice. Something to think about:) Post Reply