Author	Thread: What do you think?
mcubed View Profile History	What do you think? Posted : 10 Oct, 2013 06:24 PM One of the churches I am affiliated with here in my area has one of the biggest outreaches in the state of OH (if not the biggest) to homosexuals. (I can say this because they are so big they receive funding from the united way for it). I was talking to one of my friends who is an ex-homosexual and now borne-again, and I asked a crazy, but very applicable question for today what he thought... If a person had a sex change before they got born- again can they biblically marry now a person of the opposite sex (which would be the same sex) but they are the opposite sex because of surgery? Post Reply
View Profile History	What do you think? Posted : 10 Oct, 2013 06:28 PM "If a person had a sex change before they got born- again can they biblically marry now a person of the opposite sex (which would be the same sex) but they are the opposite sex because of surgery?" No. Post Reply
View Profile History	What do you think? Posted : 10 Oct, 2013 07:31 PM I don't think it would matter because it doesn't matter to them. I believe that gay men and women can be born again and can change their lifestyles because of the grace of God. I have personally ministered to several gay men when I lived in San Francisco and one of my best friends was a converted gay man. It is a very difficult struggle for them. In the matter of your question, I believe that any person that goes to the extreme of having a gender changing surgery is completely reprobate. They have taken their perversion to the greatest extreme. Therefore their marriage might be legal in the technical sense but it is certainly not Biblical. Post Reply
DontHitThatMark View Profile History	What do you think? Posted : 11 Oct, 2013 07:03 AM I think she's asking in the context of someone who had no prior christian affiliation before the sex change. We could go into the literal genetics of the situation, but the end argument is that there is forgiveness for every sin as long as it's turned away from. Look at King Manassah, He did great evil in the sight of God, horrible atrocities and human sacrifices, but was granted repentance. As far as whether or not they should be married after that, I'm not sure...it's such a messy convoluted world out there, the bible did not address every situation. Perhaps they can just remain celibate, or, maybe it's possible to have another sex change, I don't know. The bible has no literal direction for a mess like that. If it were me, I would just stay single and wait for that new body. That being said, I think it's a bad idea to rush to judgment in these cases. Babies are being born with all kinds of genetic issues. My mom was a labor and delivery nurse, and sometimes the parents would have to choose which gender to push the baby toward, and perhaps they picked the wrong one as far as that child's genetic and hormonal balance was leaning later in their life. Is it then the child's fault if they feel like they're confused? There are a lot of things to consider before we cast someone off as reprobate. :peace::peace: Post Reply
teach_ib View Profile History	What do you think? Posted : 11 Oct, 2013 07:48 PM My initial thought would be for them to remain single knowing that there are long term consequences for the choices/sins we make/commit in life. Even though our sins are forgiven, we can pay some heavy consequences for past sins. Moses could not enter the Promised Land because he s'more the rock instead of speaking to it. Just one example. Post Reply
mcubed View Profile History	What do you think? Posted : 13 Oct, 2013 10:59 PM teach_ib, IWA I agree with you both 100%. To be honest I couldn't think of a Scripture to back it up, but you are right in Rightly Dividing the Word teach_ib and how it applies today. Post Reply