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Admin	Question: Posted : 9 Jul, 2014 07:34 PM Question: What if you found out the usher at the steeple you attend is gay? What does God say about the ushers in the church? Do you think they are instructed to be under the rules of structure as written in the 1 Timothy3 ? and why? Post Reply
View Profile History	Question: Posted : 11 Jul, 2014 09:09 AM Why no replies? Its not a trick question . I merely would like some feedback on your opinion.Thanks:angel: Post Reply
View Profile History	Question: Posted : 11 Jul, 2014 10:59 AM No one answers because it is a very controversial topic�with all the what I call �Free Liberties� being made LAW now a days and the peoples are running amuck and the masses are being lead astray from God and Encouraged to live in a Babylonian and Apostate way�God destroyed an intire city because of such �Free Liberties��The masses have yet to receive that memo or they did and do not care�many people have become double minded and afraid the speak GOD's Truth about the matter�I'm not afraid and I do have an opinion just as those that are gay have theirs... Asked ~ Question: What if you found out the usher at the steeple you attend is gay? **** I�d be concerned as to the specific Churches standing on this. Are they making allowances? Are they Preaching a different Gospel ? Are they the Blind leading the Blind ? As Christians we are to Live by and Abide in the WORD ~ Teachings ~ Scriptures�Not make allowances, changes, pick and choose what fits our daily delights or personal concerns or conflicts of issues. Its either ALL God or NO God, there is no Gray Zone. These changes are in dirrect alignment with a New World Order and Religion... What does God say about the ushers in the church? Do you think they are instructed to be under the rules of structure as written in the 1 Timothy 3 ? and why? *** 1Ti 3:10 And let these also first be proved; then let them use the office of a deacon, being found blameless. *** """ Being found Blameless """...Yes!!!...All �Christian� Churches are �instructed� to be �under� God Because God�s WORD is the final Authority�not mans� *** One Can Accept the person as they are, Jesus did� We must not forget that Jesus Preached Repentance of (Sin and Unbelief) so the sin must still be repented of and purged so to speak�If the reasoning given by such is "I was born this way"...they can �Repent� and BE "Born Again" and continue to abstain and die to the flesh in Christ�they will no longer be Gay...they will be a New Creature�a New Man/Woman in Christ� X <>< O Post Reply
View Profile History	Question: Posted : 11 Jul, 2014 04:37 PM Thanks for answering Jude. Its my daughters church! I had already been concerned about her church because I once attended that same church and I left. She told me it could be a rumor so I told her to call and ask the pastor. Its a rather large church. I remember he disappears after the service instead of being avail for his congregation so im not sure he will have the humility to answer a brand new christians question. I havent pushed this with her because she is a brand new believer .I am seeing that the Holy Spirit is showing her things and she is open to discussing things of God with me now! Praise the Lord The gay person is a greeter and not an usher. I was mistaken. I would think this would be difficult for those being escorted to their pew by a openly gay man/woman. Not because they are gay (love the person hate the sin)but because they were allowed to serve in Gods house. She told me many have left the church because of this. Maybe I should call and get the true story myself. . Post Reply
View Profile History	Question: Posted : 11 Jul, 2014 04:39 PM BWAHAHAHAHA!! Post Reply
View Profile History	Question: Posted : 11 Jul, 2014 05:01 PM Hey Sweet...didnt know it was about your daughter or her Church If I had I wouldnt have answered...:rolleyes:...NOT!!!...It really doesnt matter if the person is a Greeter or an Usher...they are still Serving in the Congregation in a position that is to be "Blameless"... xo Post Reply
View Profile History	Question: Posted : 11 Jul, 2014 06:45 PM Hello pie: I cannot find an 'usher' in the Word of GOD,so then the qualifications of a 'deacon' may not apply. As far as being 'gay' there is not such animal by that name in this life, 'homosexual',but not gay. Also the term 'gay; has been hijacked by a group of 'sinful' people both men and women which find the terms 'homosexual' and 'lesbian' are very degrading and offensive,they should be for that is what GOD Almighty says about them. 1Corinthians 6:9 Or do you not know that unjust ones will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be led astray, neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor male prostitutes, nor homosexuals, 1Corinthians 6:10 nor thieves, nor covetous ones, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor plunderers shall inherit the kingdom of God. 1Corinthians 6:11 And some of you were these things, but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and in the Spirit of our God. I believe EVERY person needs to have the Gospel brought to them,as the Holy Spirit empowers each believer,each and every person born of a woman has a 'SINFUL' nature. We need to remember that the ground before the cross is level,not one person can stand above another,and Grace runs downhill never up the mountain of pride. But for the Holy Spirit giving me faith in Messiah Yeshua,i could be there myself,as no sin is beyond the sinful nature of man. Job 4:17 Is man more righteous than God? Or a strong man be purer than his Maker? Job 4:18 Behold, He puts no trust in His servants; and He charges His angels with folly! Job 4:19 How much more those that dwell in houses of clay; whose foundation is in the dust; they crush them before the moth! Job 4:20 They are shattered from morning till evening; they perish forever with no one regarding. Job 4:21 Is not their tent cord pulled up within them? They die, but not with wisdom. Proclaim the Gospel to this person,he might have not been told the real Gospel. Blessings Post Reply
DontHitThatMark View Profile History	Question: Posted : 14 Jul, 2014 07:25 AM I'm honestly a bit tired of hearing about homosexuality so much. Jesus and the bible barely talk about this specific sin. A worse accusation to level against a leader in the church is that they are an alcoholic, adulterer, murderer, or child molester, etc. The bible is very clear about what happens if someone abuses children, but homosexuality is hardly referenced except in conjunction with "lust" as the driving force, and even then only a few times. I know a few gay men, and it's definitely the "lust" that pushes it solidly into the "sin" realm and not simply that they're attracted to the same gender. Sodom and Gomorra weren't destroyed because there were a bunch of happily monogamous gay couples living there. That city was destroyed because the whole town was so evil that their first reaction to guests in their city was to rape them. The gay culture in our country is pretty terrible, but if there is a gay man in my church leading people to their seats and recognizing that he is sinful and in need of a savior, I'm not going to consider that church to be evil. Jesus ate with harlots, and he was our example. Also, I know that I have equal or greater sins in my own life, and I dare not cast the first stone if I hope to find mercy. That being said, in the same way that an openly drunk person should not hold authority positions in the church, I do not think an openly "active" homosexual person should be in an authority position, and no church should ever proclaim that homosexuality is "ok", or "good". Sin must be called by it's right name and homosexuality is definitely sin, just like adultery, sexual immorality, deception, unjust anger, impatience, gluttony, gossip, lust, covetousness, greed, envy, racism, and the list goes on. :peace::peace: Post Reply
Hisjoymypeace View Profile History	Question: Posted : 14 Jul, 2014 10:10 PM Well said DHTM.......well said...... Post Reply