Did Jesus reject Moses' reasons for divorce in Matthew 19?
Posted : 6 Dec, 2015 05:32 PM
Did Jesus Christ reject the practices of Moses related to allowing divorce; and say there is only one legitimate reason which allows a person to obtain a divorce, marry another, and not commit adultery?
a) yes b) no
Matthew 19:3-8 "The Pharisees also came to Him, testing Him, and saying to Him, "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for just any reason?" And He answered and said to them, "Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning 'made them male and female,' and said, 'For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh'? So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate." They said to Him, "Why then did Moses command to give her a certificate of divorce, and to put her away?" He said to them, "Moses, because of the hardness of your hearts permitted you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so."
Did Jesus reject Moses' reasons for divorce in Matthew 19?
Posted : 6 Dec, 2015 05:39 PM
Matthew 19:9-12 "And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except it be for sexual immorality (porneia), and marries another, commits (marital) adultery (moxitai); and whoever divorces her who is divorces commits (marital) adultery (moxitai)." His disciples said to Him, "If such is the case of the man with his wife it is better not to marry." But He said to them, "All cannot accept this saying, but only those to whom it has been given: For there are eunuchs who were born thus from their mother's womb, and there are eunuchs who were made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He who is able to accept it, let him accept it."
Did Jesus reject Moses' reasons for divorce in Matthew 19?
Posted : 6 Dec, 2015 05:55 PM
Matthew 19:3-12 (Matthew was written to the Jews)
(In the Greek New Testament this is all one paragraph. It is not several paragraphs as suggested by English translations. Jesus only offers one exception as acceptable, and rejects all other divorces for all other reasons. Christ specifically states that the standard Moses used was a false standard which ignored the reality of the one flesh union, ignored God's original intent, and only came about because of sin.
Before I go any further, and just to be on the safe side, anyone and everyone who reads this needs to understand that Jesus Christ is Almighty God (John chapter 1, Revelation chapter 1) who took on flesh for the express purpose of dying for the sin of mankind. Moses is not the equal of Jesus. Moses serves Jesus. God in the flesh on earth said Moses was wrong. It is not Moses' standards which must be met, but the standards of Almighty God.
(Compare with Mark 10:1-12 (written to the Romans) (also one paragraph in the Greek language) and notice Christ speaks with the disciples after they enter the house, and Christ mentions no exception in this passage written for the Romans.)
(Also see Luke 16:18 (written to the Greeks) and also containing no exception.)
Did Jesus reject Moses' reasons for divorce in Matthew 19?
Posted : 6 Dec, 2015 06:07 PM
The one and only type of divorce that Jesus says is legitimate is the divorce that Joseph contemplated when Mary was pregnant with Jesus. They were married under Jewish law, but had not consummated the marriage. The Jews had the practice of starting the marriage, beginning the betrothal period, where they were considered husband and wife, but did not consummate the marriage until a year had passed. Therefore Joseph was allowed to divorce Mary, marry another woman, and not commit adultery under Jewish law, but only because the marriage was not consummated. However God gave Joseph assurance of Mary's sexual purity in the matter, and after Christ was born, Joseph and Mary consummated the marriage.
Bottom line? Jesus forbids all other divorce, (every marriage which is consummated), and says that marrying another after consummation of the marriage is to commit adultery (moxitai). This applies to every divorce except the one where the woman has committed porneia, and the husband obtains the divorce for that reason. Jesus very purposefully differentiated between porneia (sexual immorality) prior to consummation of the marriage, and moxitai (marital adultery).
Did Jesus reject Moses' reasons for divorce in Matthew 19?
Posted : 6 Dec, 2015 08:50 PM
"Before I go any further, and just to be on the safe side, anyone and everyone who reads this needs to understand that Jesus Christ is Almighty God (John chapter 1, Revelation chapter 1) who took on flesh for the express purpose of dying for the sin of mankind. Moses is not the equal of Jesus. Moses serves Jesus. God in the flesh on earth said Moses was wrong. It is not Moses' standards which must be met, but the standards of Almighty God."
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Deut.4:35
35 You were shown these things so that you might know that YHWH is God; besides him there is no other.
Deut.4:39
Acknowledge and take to heart this day that YHWH is God in heaven above and on the earth below. There is no other.
Isaiah 44
6 �This is what YHWH says � Israel�s King (Yahshua had not yet been installed as YHWH's proxy King) and Redeemer, YHWH Almighty: I am the first and I am the last; apart from me there is no God.
Isaiah 44
24 �This is what YHWH says� your Redeemer, who formed you in the womb: I am YHWH, the maker of all things, who stretches out the heavens, who spreads out the earth by myself.
Isaiah 42
5 This is what YHWH says� He who created the heavens and stretched them out, who spread out the earth and all that comes out of it, who gives breath to its people, and life to those who walk on it:
Isaiah 42
8 I am YHWH: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images."
Isaiah 43
10 Ye are my witnesses, saith YHWH and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
Isaiah 45
5 I am YHWH, and there is no other; apart from me there is no God. 7 I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, YHWH, do all these things. 12 It is I who made the earth and created mankind upon it. My own hands stretched out the heavens; I marshaled their starry hosts. 18 For this is what YHWH says� He who created the heavens, He is God; He who fashioned and made the earth, He founded it; He did not create it to be empty, but formed it to be inhabited� He says: "I am YHWH and there is no other ."
I Timothy 2:5 KJV
5 For there is one God, and one mediator BETWEEN God and men, the MAN Christ Jesus
John 17:3 KJV
....And this is life eternal, that they might know THEE, the only true God, AND Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
1 Corinthians 8:4-6New International Version (NIV)
4 So then, about eating food sacrificed to idols: We know that �An idol is nothing at all in the world� and that �There is no God but one.� 5 For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as indeed there are many �gods� and many �lords�), 6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.
John 20:17King James Version (KJV)
17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
Romans 15:6 (English-NIV)
so that with one heart and mouth you may glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
2 Corinthians 1:3 (English-NIV)
Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of compassion and the God of all comfort,
2 Corinthians 11:31 (English-NIV)
The God and Father of the Lord Jesus, who is to be praised forever, knows that I am not lying.
Ephesians 1:3 (English-NIV)
Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in the heavenly realms with every spiritual blessing in Christ.
Colossians 1:3 (English-NIV)
We always thank God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, when we pray for you,
1 Peter 1:3 (English-NIV)
Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! In his great mercy he has given us new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
Ephesians 1:17 (English-NIV)
I keep asking that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the glorious Father, may give you the Spirit of wisdom and revelation, so that you may know him better.
Revelation 3:12 (KJV)
Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
Ephesians 4:4-6
4 there is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called
5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism;
6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.
Did Jesus reject Moses' reasons for divorce in Matthew 19?
Posted : 6 Dec, 2015 10:41 PM
Thanks Hank, for taking time to confirm Christ's role as the only legitimate go between between God and man, as He who was with God, and was God, and took on flesh, and became the sacrificial Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world, without which, we could not enter into the presence of Almighty God. John 1:1,2,14,29 Hebrews 4:14-16
"I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End," says the Lord, "who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty." I, John, both your brother and companion in the tribulation and kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was on the island that is called Patmos for the word of God and for the testimony of Jesus Christ. I was in the Spirit on the Lord's Day, and I heard behind me a loud voice, as of a trumpet, saying, "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last," and, "What you see, write in a book and send it to the seven churches which are in Asia: to E, S, P, T, S, P, L." Then I turned to see the voice that spoke with me. And having turned I saw seven golden lampstands, and in the midst of the seven lampstands One like the Son of Man, ... . And when I saw Him, I fell at His feet as dead. But He laid His right hand on me, saying to me, "Do not be afraid; I am the First and the Last. I am He who lives, and was dead and behold, I am alive forevermore. Amen." Revelation 1:8-17.
Did Jesus reject Moses' reasons for divorce in Matthew 19?
Posted : 7 Dec, 2015 10:42 AM
Did Jesus reject Moses' reasons for divorce in Matthew 19?
Yes Jesus did reject it and Jesus says Moses "permitted" it...Not Him...
"Why then did Moses command to give her a certificate of divorce, and to put her away?" He said to them, "Moses, because of the hardness of your hearts permitted you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so."
Did Jesus reject Moses' reasons for divorce in Matthew 19?
Posted : 7 Dec, 2015 02:06 PM
I believe it is worth adding that Jesus did say All sins shall be forgiven...Mark 3:28-30. I believe that even a un-biblical divorce can be forgiven. As the Prodigal son "came" to him self realizing his error and sin... Luke 15:17-20...
May we all never Forget the price paid is one we can never pay or repay...
Did Jesus reject Moses' reasons for divorce in Matthew 19?
Posted : 7 Dec, 2015 03:20 PM
Quote from God is my Father:
"Thanks Ha[r]k"
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You're welcome. Glad we got that straightened out.
When I saw you write this: "anyone and everyone who reads this needs to understand that Jesus Christ is Almighty God;" I almost blew coffee out of my nose onto my computer screen.
Did Jesus reject Moses' reasons for divorce in Matthew 19?
Posted : 7 Dec, 2015 08:24 PM
Perhaps I wasn't sufficiently clear.
John 1:1-3 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him, and without Him, nothing was made that was made."
The Word, God, who was with God, made all things. Nothing was made without the Word.
John 1:14-15 "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth." John bore witness of Him and cried out, saying, "This is He of whom I said, 'He who comes after me is preferred before me, for He was before me.'"
The Word, God, took on flesh as a man so He could live on earth, and we saw Him on earth. And John the Baptist announced the coming of the Word who took on flesh.
John 1:29 "The next day John saw Jesus coming towards him, and said, "Behold! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!"
John the Baptizer identified the Word, God, who took on flesh, as the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world.
Luke 15:17-20...