In our lives we often over look the truth. Or at lest the truth as others see it. Yet it is what we may not see eye to eye on that absolute truth may be found. This has never been more clear to me as it is today. In a Midresh, (parable) about Jewish understanding and stubbornness, we find this.
2 Rabbis go into a room. They are given only one passage from the Torah. They are not let out until they find the truth of this passage. They go in with 2 different understandings, and when they are let out they have 3.
So what happen in that room? How did they find 3 meanings to one passage?
The Rabbi from the house of the Sadducees We will call this Rabbi A
The other was from the Hose of the Pharisees, We will call him Rabbi B
As we know from Biblical teaching, they did not always see eye to eye. Just as the west does not see eye to eye with Israel. If we could open the door to both worlds, and see the Bible from the others understanding, would it be worth the time it may take? Would not both worlds gain from this?
As a none Jew, that has spent his l;life studding under Orthodox Rabbies, I know that I can learn from this kind of exchange. Yet what I do not know is this, would anyone be wiling to undertake this topic?
"Just as the west does not see eye to eye with Israel. If we could open the door to both worlds, and see the Bible from the others understanding, would it be worth the time it may take? Would not both worlds gain from this? "
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Just as the Jews rely on the law, and works; and the Christians rely on faith and grace; one side is physical and the other side is spiritual.
They are two sides of the same coin. The coin does not exist without two sides.
What so many don't realize is that Salvation came to mankind in the same way in old testament times as it does for us today. The Law never had the ability to bring about salvation. Rather it was given as means to guide us in our walk. Let me explain.
If man kind had no Law to follow, we would never know of our sin. We would not know that to murder was wrong, and so in our limited thinking, we may find it as being a means to an end. Thus, we would have a lot more killing, and no one ever being faced with a crime. We would also never be found lacking in the eyes of HaShem, because He is just, can not find us guilty of something He never said was wrong. If He did he would be guilty as well, not of being sinful, rather of being Unjust.
What the west never slowed down to look at is this. The Sacrifices, were never anything more that a foreshadow of things to come. It was intended to teach us what to look for, and though a sin sacrifice did cover sin, it never was intended to remove said sin. Yes the sacrificial system was not perfect, yet it was what HaShem had given us.
Yes I have been asked if I do them in back yard. That is a question that only a person would ask that knows nothing about the sacrificial system or the Laws. You see we are told only to offer them in the place HaShem chose. The place were He put His name. That place is Jerusalem, on The Temple mount, and upon His Alter. Not one we make in the back yard.
The idea that the Law has been removed is wrongful, or wishful thinking on the part of many churches. They simply don't read the whole story before making up their minds.
To show that salvation came to the world in the same manner then as it does now, please take time to read the following.
Gen 6:8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.
We all know that Noah was a drunk, this is make clear in the fact that the first thing we find him doing is getting drunk. That was after he got off the boat.
Jas 2:23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
Gen 15:6 And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness.
Here we find that HaShem found Avram righteous. Some will make the claim that the Law had not been given at this time. Yet if that was so, then we would also be making the claim, that HaShem is not just. Why you may ask, Did He not flood the earth do to mans wickedness? Did not Cain get punished for killing Able? Was not Sodom destroyed, for their sins? If there is no law there is no sin.
1Jo 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
I can go on and on about this topic, however I am going to end this here. My reason is that to teach on this to it's logical conclusion, would take months. I am however willing to answer any all questions.
There is a teaching that seems to follow the understanding I have gotten from some folks involved in church. So let me place this out there in the form I got from a Rabbi.
When HaShem, (God) is done reading the Torah, (first 5 books of the Bible) He will roll up the scroll and start over. When He does this, He will recreate the Heavens and the earth.
What this means is this. When He rolls up the scroll, what we know now will no longer be. As the Torah is written with out vows, He can change the sound of a word, and not violate His own law. As he will not add anything to, or remove any thing from His law.
I Know that John in Rev. talks of the stars being rolled up as if a scroll. So tell me, has anyone evr heard of this before? If so, can you give me your take on it please?
Thank you ever so much for stooping by and at lest reading this.
There is a teaching that seems to follow the understanding I have gotten from some folks involved in church. So let me place this out there in the form I got from a Rabbi.
When HaShem, (God) is done reading the Torah, (first 5 books of the Bible) He will roll up the scroll and start over. When He does this, He will recreate the Heavens and the earth.
What this means is this. When He rolls up the scroll, what we know now will no longer be. As the Torah is written with out vows, He can change the sound of a word, and not violate His own law. As he will not add anything to, or remove any thing from His law.
I Know that John in Rev. talks of the stars being rolled up as if a scroll. So tell me, has anyone evr heard of this before? If so, can you give me your take on it please?
Thank you ever so much for stooping by and at lest reading this.
The goal is not superior understanding or agreement, when what is proffered for agreement is wrong. Rather, God wants us to live out the meaning of life, and to fulfill our purpose in life.
The meaning of life: "And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent." John 17
The purpose of life: "... you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength." Mark 12 As you look at the comparative texts from Deuteronomy, Matthew, Mark, and Luke, you will notice that Christ is trying to convey this love as an act of the will. In other words, with all of your heart, mind, soul, will and strength, i.e., with everything that you are; all day, every day.
At the seaside, after His resurrection, Jesus explained to Peter, by questioning Peter, how Jesus expected Peter to demonstrate His love for Him. "Feed My sheep." Later Peter wrote, "Wherefore laying aside all malice, and all guile, and hypocrisies, and envies, and all evil speakings, as newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that you may grow thereby: if so be you have tasted that the Lord is gracious."
"Study to show yourself approved unto God, rightly dividing the Word of truth." "Your word have I hid in my heart that I might not sin against You." "This book of the law shall not depart out of your mouth, but you shall meditate therein, that you may observe to do according to all that is written therein, for then you will make your way prosperous, and then you will have good success." Know God, love God, feed His sheep, and 1 John 2:4, "keep His commandments." If you submit to God and trust His wisdom, He will direct your daily steps, and lead you in the paths of righteousness. If you decide you're all that, and you can lead without submitting to God, and gaining His counsel, then, metaphorically speaking, the devil will play whack-a-mole on you and you will get crushed. James 4:7
"This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, they they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works, These things are good and profitable unto men. But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain." Titus 3
Please watch and when you talk about the Talmod. They have like scripture have seperated points please add or no one will understand what you mean cause they will not be able to trace The Talmod not many have and is vast is why we dont need knowledge for salvation but belief and faith.
This link show a full account of Old Testiment and New Testiment reason
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xi7C2rJQ940
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