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Posted : 1 Jan, 2016 03:58 PM

For those wondering where these the attacks on the orthodox beliefs of Christianity, and in particular, the divine nature of Jesus Christ, by these who deny that Jesus is God, just as God says in Hebrews chapter 1, you need look not further than here:

"When Christendom adopted a triune godhead from neighboring religious systems, it spawned a serious conundrum for post-Nicene Christian apologists. How would they harmonize this new veneration of Jesus as a being who is of the same substance as the Father with a New Testament that portrays Jesus as a separate entity, subordinate to the Father, and created by God? How would they now integrate the teaching of the Trinity with a New Testament that recognized the Father alone as God? In essence, how would Christian apologists merge a first century Christian bible which was monotheistic with a fourth century Church which was not?" )From, "Did Jesus claim to be God?" by Tovia Singer.)

Don't let this nonsense bother you. These are the words of a modern day pharisee who rejects Jesus, just like his ancestors. They refuse to accept that God is a being that is so vastly superior to them, and that God's nature is not defined by what narrow thoughts they have about the nature of man. They try to humanize Go, and limit him to human nature, and human attributes. Regarding Christ, rightly did Isaiah prophecy concerning them, they are blind to the truth and receive it not. Isaiah Chapter 6. There are a number of false assumptions contained in this poor attempt to deny the Lord of Glory His due.

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Posted : 1 Jan, 2016 05:33 PM

Why do you elevate your Babylonian doctrine and dogma over the words of the Apostles?



I Timothy 2:5 KJV



5 For there is one God, and one mediator BETWEEN God and men, the MAN Christ Jesus



John 17:3 KJV



....And this is life eternal, that they might know THEE, the only true God, AND Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

































































Ephesians 1:17 (English-NIV)

I keep asking that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the glorious Father, may give you the Spirit of wisdom and revelation, so that you may know him better.

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Posted : 1 Jan, 2016 10:23 PM

At the risk of being redundant:

This is a small portion of my post in the thread titled, "The Diety of Christ revealed in scripture."

"You fail because because you refuse to admit that God, being God, is able to take on flesh as a man, and "empty Himself", while still maintaining His divine nature. Christ is 100% God, and 100% man at the same time ..." (I encourage all Christians to take time to read the entire post.)

Your refusal to acknowledge that God (Theos, as God describes Himself in Hebrews 1; the One true God) is not limited in His nature, and can be found in more than one form at a time. He is not a mere man that He is limited by the limitations of man. You refuse to accept that in Hebrews chapter 1, God (Theos) the Father called Jesus by the same name (God, Theos in the Greek) that God the Father used to describe Himself in the same chapter; and Theos told the angels to worship God (Theos) the Son. In fact, God (Theos) the Father said to the Son, Thy Throne O God (Theos) is forever. (Make sure you also look at my post on baby Greek and endings of root words such as kurios and Theos.)



P.S. Stop spamming with your triple spacing. It doesn't make you look smart, but rather adolescent in how you approach posting.

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Posted : 3 Jan, 2016 02:14 PM

GOD IS NOT A MAN, That He Should Lie, NEITHER THE SON OF MAN, That He Should Repent: Has He Said, And Will He Not Do It? Or Has He Spoken, And Will He Not Make It Good? Numbers 23:19







Jesus is referred to as the �Son of Man� 88 times in the New Testament.





Don't be angry with me because Yahshua and I worship the same God.











































Ephesians 1:17 (English-NIV)

I keep asking that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the glorious Father, may give you the Spirit of wisdom and revelation, so that you may know him better.

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Posted : 4 Jan, 2016 12:10 AM

Is it that hard for you to see that no Christian is denying that Christ was a man?

Christ was a man. At the same time, Christ is God. The child was born, the SON was given. Isaiah 9:6 Strong's Concordance H1121 ben בֵּן "the Word was God and the Word was with God, ... and" (then) "BECAME flesh, and lived among us." John 1 Christ, "being in the form of" (never ceasing to exist as) "God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God, but ... took upon Him the form of a servant". Philippians 2 It is without dispute that Christ existed prior to becoming human as clearly stated in John 1 and Philippians 2 "But unto the Son He said, Your throne O God" Hebrews 1

How did a man who was not yet born consider Himself to be equal with God, and take part in the Creation of all things, if He is a created being, and just a man?

Make a picture of two boxes. Put all things all that was not created in box one, and put all created things in box two. If you put Christ in box two, He cannot participate in His own creation, and therefore, would not have been instrumental in the creation of all things. It would take a non-created being to create that which was created. The only non-created "thing" is God, and God created all things. If you are going to try to say the Christ was created through Christ, where was He at the start of the process of Him being created, seeing He didn't yet exist? How could He be created through something that didn't yet exist?

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