Author	Thread: The M Word--And I aint talkin bout marriage
HolyGhostGirl View Profile History	The M Word--And I aint talkin bout marriage Posted : 16 Apr, 2011 09:07 AM Gentlemen, please don't get crazy here. Don't get critical and don't judge me. I'm bold and I say what others think, so for real, don't think I'm a "bad girl" or anything, I just want opinions. We are all family, or should be, in Christ. With that said, as my brothers (cause I've already asked the ladies on our forum), answer this question for me..... Is pleasuring oneself wrong? Please read between the lines because I don't think I can use the M word here. If it is wrong, what biblical backing do you have? And what do you do to make it through lonely nights and vulnerable moments?
View Profile History	The M Word--And I aint talkin bout marriage Posted : 16 Apr, 2011 10:28 PM No one is judging her---- just stating how they feel about posting something un-godly on a CHRISTIAN Dating Site. If you want to know if it's wrong, Ask God. HGG, if these are the kinds of questions you pose to men you don't know, no wonder you ain't talkin bout marriage!!! Personally, you are exactly what I came on this site to get away from. Worldly Women. As for the statement that people didn't have to click on here:: When I did, I had no clue what the M word was!!
Elisa View Profile History	The M Word--And I aint talkin bout marriage Posted : 16 Apr, 2011 11:22 PM Ok, my two cents..... First, some things are a bit difficult to discuss in mixed company. Although, I would assume (fully cognizant of what assume can mean) that a spouse would override the mixed problem. Not having been married, this is an assumption. Second, if a person has a question running around in their head like a squirrel on an exercise circle, then would we rather they ask the question in a safe Christian environment or on the street?
View Profile History	The M Word--And I aint talkin bout marriage Posted : 17 Apr, 2011 01:50 AM Hey!give her a break ok?Everyone's welcome to post ANY KIND of topic here on CDFF!She asked because she just wants to hear your opinions!COME ON!What would happen if you had a child or a young family member who asked you this? Would you say to them that it's not "Christian- like" to talk about things like this?Let's hear her out first please!!
View Profile History	The M Word--And I aint talkin bout marriage Posted : 17 Apr, 2011 03:12 AM I agree with Chevy, how was he supposed to know what he'd be looking at? Secondly, I wonder how many people were struggling with this topic -before- it was posted yesterday, and how many are now that it is.
View Profile History	The M Word--And I aint talkin bout marriage Posted : 17 Apr, 2011 03:39 AM Can we move this discussion to the "Christian morality" (or similar) category? Please?
View Profile History	The M Word--And I aint talkin bout marriage Posted : 17 Apr, 2011 04:50 AM I know what you mean, dkj. Why it was ever posted in ask a guy is beyond me. And there aren't only 2 choices of where to discuss such things----- the street or a Christian environment. There are plenty of other options. There are lots of Christian venues other than an open forum where many of the guys were made to feel un-comfortable. I'm not trying to be harsh. I do hope hgg will use better judgement in the future.
Princekermit View Profile History	The M Word--And I aint talkin bout marriage Posted : 17 Apr, 2011 08:29 AM @HGG Before I give my personal opinion, lets look at what God said. Proverbs 3:5- 5 Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; 6 Seek his will in all you do, and he will show you which path to take. Notice the word "ALL" in verse 6: Not some matters, but every matter, we should come to Him about. And disregard our own personal wisdom or knowledge, as the means of a solution to a issue. Practical Application: HGG Pray to God about this, and He will direct your personal steps in this. This next verse pre-supposes that You are born of the Spirit, and are regenerated. If you are unconverted, then your conscience is carnally minded, and this verse doesn't apply. At this point you should "Repent and Believe the Gospel" Romans 14:23 makes it clear that if it is against your conscience, it is sin, regardless of its Legality in God's law. 14:14 Makes it clear that Paul feels, knows and is persuaded that there is nothing unclean in & of itself. But to the believer who holds that something is unclean.. for him.. it IS unclean. Bacon... is it a sin? For someone like Peter who refused to eat the unclean animals that came down from Heaven on a sheet, sent by God, he couldn't do it. His conscience from childhood, was trained to believe it wrong, He told God, told him it was not going to happen ever. For Peter bacon is Sin. For me, I was not raised under Jewish dietary law, my conscience is clear, with thanksgiving I praise God for bacon. Bacon is not a sin. Is M a sin? Well what does your conscience say? Do you ask for God's forgiveness, and feel guilty afterwards? I think that tells you your answer. Now for my personal opinion. If Jesus were standing there beside you, looking at you with love in his eyes, could you do it? Would you feel ashamed? Next question. At the Bema seat/White Throne Judgement when You are standing before Jesus, and the Book of your life is opened. Every Thought and Action (good or bad) you have ever had or done is shown before you, and everyone else in heaven, how would you react when these "self loving" moments are shown? Would you feel Guilty or Innocent? And please don't ask me if I personally "M", My walk isn't your walk. Like Paul we each to to work out our salvation with fear and trembling.
View Profile History	The M Word--And I aint talkin bout marriage Posted : 17 Apr, 2011 08:42 AM I think HolyGhostGirl�s real question is: How do you deal with your desires and needs as a single person. I think the best way to deal with it is to be married. I think that the modern dating system is seriously flawed. So many people are single because they have so many expectations of the other person that can never be met. A guy has to have the perfect job, be the perfect leader, ask you out in the just the right way, do just the right things on a date, and sweep the woman off her feet all on the first date or the relationship will go nowhere. Too many people put impossible standards in their way of marriage, and that is where the real sin is.
View Profile History	The M Word--And I aint talkin bout marriage Posted : 17 Apr, 2011 09:47 AM :ROFL: if girls didn't have such high standards, they would be used alot more by guys. I am the example. I don't think its so much a womans standard. Its a God standard. When God is working on us, and building our self esteem. He gives us more standards. I guess im confused with your post. Sounds to me like your basically saying. Alot men wouldnt be masterbating, if women would lower thier standards in a guy, so everyone can get married? please correct me if I'm wrong.
View Profile History	The M Word--And I aint talkin bout marriage Posted : 17 Apr, 2011 10:10 AM Souvable, I�m not saying that women should settle for guys that are jerks. I�m NOT saying that women should settle for just any guy just so that they can be married. But, both women and men should marry to be able to satisfy one�s desires. 1 Corinthians 7:9 (KJV) 9 But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn. What I am saying is that women in the church have been taught to look for a guy who is some sort of charismatic leader. If he can�t teach a Sunday School class or lead a small group of some sort, or put a 20 point sermon together, he isn�t a true Christian leader. Also, while providing for a family is important, men are expected to be able to support a family on his own BEFORE he is married. Instead of helping her husband through encouragement and sharing the work load at home while he builds up his career, she will just wait until the guy gets a really nice job and a nice house, and then she can come in and reap the benefits of all HIS labors. Also, the guy has to be Mr. Romantic without having any experience. He has to do everything perfectly before a woman will consider him for marriage. Being a good husband is not something that you are, it is something that you learn. And to learn anything in life you have to have someone to practice with. The problem today is that women in the church are taught to look for the perfect husband, when the only way you can be the perfect husband is to be married. They expect the guy to have all the experience of a good husband, without ever having been married. What women should be looking for is a man after God�s own heart, who is willing to learn how to be the perfect husband. There is a world of difference between those two points. And, just for the record, I didn�t mean to make it sound like it�s all the women�s fault. There are plenty of men out there who are selfish and not willing to take on the responsibility of marriage. There are plenty of men out there who�s expectations are too high.

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