I agree the Feminist Movement permeates the church and women emersed in the Feminist Movement are the quality of women we get on these sites with Feminist Agenda replacing scripture teachings to an unholy extent.
I agree "Scripture needs to prevail."
I agree "A wife of noble character, WHO CAN FIND?" (Proverbs 31:10)
I agree, "If this is the situation between a husband and his wife, it is better not to marry." (Matthew 19:10)
I agree when Paul says, "It is good for a man not to touch a woman." (1 Corinthians 7:1)
I agree that Proverbs 31:3 women ruin kings.
I further agree that any woman of noble character "brings her husband good, not harm all the days of her life." (Proverbs 31:12)
I have hoped that we can enjoy other subjects on the forums.
Insults seem to follow every blog.
I would like topics without the stabbing. But stabbing seems quite popular here. I don't think it will end.
I'm willing that the Feminist not attack the men here. But that probably won't end.
I would like other subjects and that the stabbing end. But should men not defend themselves against women who have stabbed men?
I do not believe that any truce would be long.
Surely, insults are much tolerated here on the forums. The warnings have no effect. They count for nothing. Definitely a few of us should have been gone long ago, but the site tolerates us. For what ever reasons those are. Anyway, nice to have a time of peace. But I don't see the peace as the Feminist Movement is too engrained by the greater number of females and those males that side with the female movement. So, it seems a lost cause. Still, I side with scripture. I'm against what the Feminist Movement has done. Abortion and divorce are samples of the Feminist Movement. Mottos and slogans like "WOMEN HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE" "MY BODY/ MY CHOICE" "WOMEN RULE". Are there godly women among the Feminist Movement? The Bible says, Proverbs 14:1 that "A wise woman builds her house, but with her own hands, the foolish woman tears hers down." Such is abortion and divorce. Women tearing down their house. Together Rachel and Leah built the house of Israel. (Ruth 4:11) Women today tear theirs down. Times are not good to marry. WOMEN RULE! (Isaiah 3:12) The women of Zion are haughty. (Isaiah 3:16) Great if things would return to Bible teachings.
I'm curious what you were expecting when you make a forum about the darkestmoon on the forums? After all she is the boaster of her unholy ways and the arbiter of hateful rhetoric about men who call her out.
Handyman your perception of me couldn't be further from the truth. I'm 56 so not young. I had a good father who was faithful to my mother up till his death. He was definitely a manly man, avid hunter and a work ethic that many young men could take notes from, and I also work in the same place he did which many would not wish to work because of the physical nature of the work. He lead and provided for our family well and am grateful to have had him as a father. As far as other male role models. My grandfather was a pioneering pastor planting 4 churches in different areas and 4 out of 5 of my uncles were or are pastors also. My Auntie and uncle were missionaries and in our church we had the former principal of the national Bible College as well as one of the head lecturers
. So your firstly thinking im a female and now being so far off with your assumption of me that it's not funny, says more about the lens that you view things through and less about me.
Oh and for the record I am not a feminist, though I do agree with at least one thing they fought for back in the 50' and 60s and that is equal pay for the same job, which was not happening then.
I believe men and women are of equal worth but different roles.
I believe that WE men should lead bearing the fruit of the spirit in love and that includes with people who may disagree with us
. love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control is how we should seek to be operating in but sadly often seems lacking here, and yes that can be both genders but as men who are adamant we should be the leaders then we should be leading the way with the way we act and not blaming our actions on the actions of others. Then maybe others will be more likely to follow our lead.
We ALL should be able to put our view across without belittling, name calling or persoal attacks on a person's character or home life etc. Regardless of if we know them or not and let's face it on here, we dont know much about anyone else so mostly all views, particularly about family life etc are often based on assumption rather than fact and often say more about the lens we are looking through and our bias than it does about the person themselves given it is often not based in fact, as was the case this time.
Walkntalk I apologize for once again deviating from the thread.
So back on topic. Though I have satiated I dont agree with the naming of someone on this thread I can kinda give an answer to the question.
If I was looking to get married, which I'm not, I would look for things I'm attracted to rather than things I don't like.
Whatsoever things are good, whatsoever things are lovely etc... If we look at the positive in people rather than the negatives our relationships will be better and the ones with the most positive attributes will be the ones we are more likely to want to marry.
That doesn't mean we can't disagree but if we look at the positive then how we look at people and how we voice our disagreement often will change.
Plus a little self reflection and realization that we all need grace sometimes can help in how we look at others too.
Sorry for such a long response Walkntalk. I t will hopefully be my last here.
Thanks for the history and your long reply was well read, Cuzzie.
A very interesting family history.
I believed you to be a man when I read your profile.
Some have been on here longer than others, so know my history here than others and know more of what has transpired relationally here as thing form left and right and one falls in and out of graces. That said, we may know someone better having been here longer.
I agree to disagree.
It is an open forum. Anyone is welcome to share. Some are disruptive.
One employs different strategies.
I have thought of like Bible verses time to time. But sometimes, you just need a sword. The Bible is to be a sword. Some don't like how it cuts.
Jesus did not seek to please the Pharisees and the Sadducees. He was confrontational.
A lot of confrontational submissions here! I call it "mud-slinging". And it is not wholesome the mud-slinging. One tries to use scripture to address things and only get insults in return. So, it has come to what it has come, and it has been this way for years.
I disagree on not being negative on somethings as everything is a book of opposites.
I personally do not want some types to be my mate.
A woman who is open to abortion does not attract me. Abortion is LEGALIZED MURDER to me. An unborn child has done nothing wrong and nothing deserving of death. I believe in standing against the practice of abortion and standing up for the unborn. My attraction is to women that want children and are not open to abortion, so I am not going to be positive about women that are positive about abortion. Nor am I going to be positive about women who are positive about divorce. The Bible speaks against divorce. The Old Testament says that God HATES DIVORCE and the New Testament speaks against divorce and says that divorce came along because of hardness of the heart. The New Testament tells us not to divorce. Paul says that women are not to separate from their husbands and that a man is not to divorce his wife. Jesus says that any man who marries a divorced woman commits adultery. Divorce and adultery go hand in hand. I want a women that are not open to abortion and are not open to divorce, so I am looking for women that are negative about some things that I am also negative. I would like women who are positive about things I am positive. People who are positive about one thing are negative about another. It is the nature of who we are. Some here are negative about me. Some here are negative about some scriptures that they not like and like to discard the verses they don't like. Scripture is often not welcomed here. I want scripture to be used on here. I want scripture to be part of the discussions. I don't like when scripture gets left out.
I will be positive about what I am positive and I will be negative about what I am negative. Is God not that way? Are not people that way? But we should align ourselves to scripture. We should be positive about what God is positive, and we should be negative about what God is negative. I don't believe things are so ideal that we can be positive about everything. I want a woman who is negative about the same things I am negative. But here we are to discuss on an open form, and men are frequently chastised by one. THE ONE has no end to little-ing men. I tire of the insults. There must be some reproach. Your view and my view on that are different. But you have been here less long than I have been here. One moves from their position when they see abuses and incessant attacks on men. Where is the scripture on it? I do not think it is where you are at. But you will come to verses. Sometimes we fight fire with fire. Paul would expel some people from the church. That is not being done here. People with whom we disagree continue to be here. So, it is. And rightly so on a free and open forum where supposedly Christian are addressing Christians. But I don't like some of the conversations and I don't like some of the insults. Men are made lower here by "ONE". The attacks are endless. We respond to it differently. But some have been here longer than you. More people do not survive long here. I myself have needed many vacations. But we are "relational-beings" and we are here for relationship. If we cannot get the mate we want, we hope for some fulfillment in conversations along the way. Some are disruptive. Some seek to destroy any decent conversation by putting in snot remarks. One is frequent from the female gender. I don't agree with every male on this site on everything that gets written by males. But the attacks most frequent against men are by a female. So, we call it out.
Thanks for your opinion, Cuzzie.
Good you're on the site.
I tried to be more neutral in the past.
I tried to keep ill words from escalating. The only solution is not being here. I would like better things to do than be here, but a dog returns to its vomit as the Proverb goes and a pig returns to wallowing in the mud.
"Some have been on here longer than others. Some know the history here better than others and know more of what has transpired relationally here as things form left and right and one falls in and out of graces. That said, we may know someone better having been here longer."
Sometimes a.i. changes my wording before I submit and I have not proofread everything that I type before pressing the send button, but I see my words at times grossly altered by a.i.
Walkntalk, thank you for your reply and the way you worded it. Forgive me if the way I worded mine was not clear.
I agree with you on abortion and what Jesus specifically said about divorce and then Paul expanded or gave more detail on. Some of the old testament was written to a people with hard hearts and so God made provisions that were specifically for them and not his perfect will for mankind as shown by what Jesus said about divorce as opposed to the mosaic law, so I personally look at that with a different lens than what I do with what Jesus himself said.
I have no problem with you disagreeing with me and thankyou for elaborating as to why. It gives insight as to your view but also where I might be able to word differently if I have not effectively given my position.
I'm not saying we shouldn't see the differences or address them but if we also look for positives then our view of that person might be more well rounded and they will see we are not just focusing on negative side all the time which will affect our relationship with anyone and make it more difficult for them to actually take in what we are saying and visa versa.
I'm not sure how long you have been here so I may not have been here as long. Personally I have been here over 10 years but not always as Cuzzie because like you I have needed breaks at times and at least one of those times I deleted my profile, hence a different name now.
I have not read all of what moonlight (sorry moonlight for saying your name but it's not in negative context) has written because there is a lot but from what I've seen I can agree with some and may disagree with others and there in itself is a positive in so much as we agree on some things but I also can see other positive things as well.
For instance, this is a thread about her, and in a negative way, and yet from what I've seen she has had the self discipline not to comment or defend herself so far which shows good restraint, certainly more than I have shown on this thread. Which shows growth when compared to other threads and that's a good thing.
From what I understand she is under male leadership in her church so for those who believe in male only pastors then that is a good thing and may show she is not quite as feminist as some may think given that she is willing to be in a church with male pastor and leadership. Now I might be wrong on that but that's the impression I got after reading one of her posts.
We don't have to dismiss and fail to adress the negative but
If we are seeking to see the good in people then that will not only positively affect our relationship with that person but also affect the way we disagree and their willingness to listen to us and our willingness to listen to them which can only be good.
Ok I have gone on enough. Have a good day there Walkntalk
Cuzzie I appear be wrong about some things about you but nevertheless it was my perception. You do seem to be somewhat effeminate in the way you speak and perceive things.
Unfortunately you have jumped headlong into a situation with a person who has made it her mission to make the forums more of a worldly satanic place rather than a Christian forum and no amount of being kind or quoting scripture to her has changed her dishonest and destructive attitude. She truly does stink up the forums and I'm happy to point that out every time she does. WalkNTalk left because of her and only just recently returned. I guess I'm to hard headed to leave.
Am I doing things right? I don't know because for many it doesn't seem to matter how kind you are as it seems if you say something they don't like then they usually respond with disrespect which is something I've also been guilty of a time or two.
Cuzzie I suggest you take any moonstench post with a grain of salt because she's not against telling falsehoods. Early on I was having a discussion with her and like usual she posted links that supposedly backed up her claim. When I clicked on the links they were extremely long writings and I guess she figured nobody would take the time to read the ridiculous amount that was there to read.
Well I did read all the links and none of it had anything to do with the point she was trying to prove. I went back and looked at other links she posted and although I didn't take the time to read much of them they also didn't appear to back up her claims. I confronted her about it and ever sense she's labeled me as belonging to the he man woman haters club.
Once someone lies to me and doesn't own up to it from then on I rarely believe anything that looks suspect and she makes a lot of claims that look suspect and her claims about where she goes and who she listens to seem very suspect to me.
