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Paul didn't think Jesus was God
Posted : 25 Apr, 2019 09:22 PM

"And it is all from God, who through the Messiah has reconciled us to himself and has given us the work of that reconciliation, which is that God in the Messiah was reconciling mankind to himself..." - 2 Cor 5:18-19

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Paul didn't think Jesus was God
Posted : 26 Apr, 2019 01:02 PM

Richard,



maybe you could ask yourself, how might You have marginalized yourself ?



Here’s some insights for you to ponder.



First, you won’t tell anyone what, whom, where, how or when you acquired the faulty belief system you cling to now.



Second, you’ve never, to my knowledge, ever acknowledged the failed anti-christ prophecies you’ve cast in the past.



Third, you don’t want to answer questions such as: “what do you call a prophet who generates false prophecy?”



Fourth, you repeatly rip scripture from its original context to confirm your personal pretexts



Fifth, you’ve never acknowledged, to my knowledge, your application of occult numerology in your past posts on this forum

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Posted : 26 Apr, 2019 01:22 PM

Oh and Richard, I nearly forgot.



Remember how you appeal to modern geology, which is subject to constant revision, to help you interpret Genesis 1 instead of believing God’s unchanging eye witness testimony of creation.

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Posted : 26 Apr, 2019 01:26 PM

For anyone unfamiliar with the man behind the prophetic7744 puppet, ah, that’s your Richard I’m talking about

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Posted : 26 Apr, 2019 02:37 PM

@LittleDavid,

When are you going to quit the smoke & mirrors and the ad hominem accusations and actually address the substance of the OP ???



The fact that you don't is a give away that you Choose to believe the traditions of men over that of simple Scripture. You know that in order to support your beliefs you'll have to put on a dog and pony show of jumping through hoops and around obstacles that will embarrass yourself when I point them out.



Why are you afraid to tackle the truth?

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Posted : 26 Apr, 2019 03:18 PM

LittleDavid,

When are you going to quit the smoke & mirrors and the ad hominem accusations and actually address the substance of the OP ???



The fact that you don't is a give away that you Choose to believe the traditions of men over that of simple Scripture. You know that in order to support your beliefs you'll have to put on a dog and pony show of jumping through hoops and around obstacles that will embarrass yourself when I point them out.





Not at all, I’m not embarrassed by your false charges. But you should be. Let’s examine each of them!



First off—

What!!!?? You start a thread and don’t read the posts on the thread??!!



Why don’t you read all the posts on your own thread???



I answered your silly abuse of scripture, sorry you missed it. I’m sure your other readers didn’t.



Since your being consistent with all your other posts by abusing terminology you obviously don’t understand, please explain the meaning of “smoke and mirrors” without consulting the internet before you reply. And then give examples from my post that coincide with the standard definition. You should already know what the term means because you've attempted to use it but at least you’re acting consistently with your other posts by misappling yet another term.



Has any one introduced you to a dictionary ???



And oh yes, good o’ “ad hominem”. Here again, yet another misapplication. Please write the correct definition and then indicate when ad hominem is a fallacy and when an attack on the person can be used appropriately. Obviously you’re unacquainted with that term too.

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Posted : 26 Apr, 2019 03:27 PM

Sadlup,



If you don’t want to admit to customizing standard terminology to suit your false religious views then perhaps the readers will see through the facade of your false arguments

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Posted : 26 Apr, 2019 11:03 PM

@LittleDavid;

You still refuse to address the OPs' Scripture verse but instead talk about my faults. Last time I checked that is an ad hominem.



Smoke and Mirrors; This is what a magician uses to deflect attention away from the truth. In this arena it is better known as deflection.



So instead of addressing the OP scripture verse head on you choose to deflect by accusing me of misappropriating vocabulary.



Ummmm..... yeah, ad hominem accusations and deflection.



Just like a modern day Pharisee you can't handle the truth even when it's set right before you.

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Posted : 27 Apr, 2019 09:30 AM

The Reformed Church is one of the most liberal Satanic churches in America. Their top pastor Robert Schuller in the Crystal Cathedral preached every Satanic Gospel. Like SADlup they no longer believe in the Divinity of Jesus. This often happens to those who believe in creeds rather than the words of God.



Little David used to quote Scripture in refuting other positions but now unfortunately relies on human reasoning and creeds. He then makes up lies about people who use God's Word to support their beliefs.



**DOES GOD'S WORD SAY THAT *ADDING** OR **TAKING WORDS** AWAY FROM GOD'S WORD IS A SIN**??



Deuteronomy 4:2: The Lord said, "Do not **ADD** to what I command you and do not **SUBTRACT** from it, but keep the commands of the Lord your God that I give you!!"



Deuteronomy 12:32: The Lord said, "See that you do all I command you, do not **ADD** to it or **TAKE AWAY** from it!!"



Proverbs 30:5,6: Every Word of God is **FLAWLESS**, He is a shield to those who take refuge in Him! Do not **ADD* to His Words, or He will rebuke you and prove you a **LIAR**!!



Deuteronomy 18:17-19: The Lord said to Moses, "I will raise up for them a Prophet like you from among your fellow Israelites, and I will put My words in His mouth. He will tell them **EVERYTHING** I command Him. I Myself will call to account anyone who does not listen to My words that the Prophet speaks in My name!!"



John 14:21-24: Jesus says, "Whoever has My commands and keeps them is the one who loves Me... Anyone who loves Me will obey My teaching, My Father will love them, and We will come to them and make Our home with them.. Anyone who does not love Me will not obey My teaching. These words you hear are not My own; they belong to the Father who sent Me!" {See Deut 18:17-19 above}



Acts 5:32: We are witnesses of these things, and so is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given **TO THOSE WHO OBEY HIM**!"



Luke 6:46-49: Jesus says, "As for everyone who comes to Me and hears **MY WORDS** and **PUTS THEM INTO PRACTICE**. I will show you what they are like. They are like a man building a house, who dug down deep and laid foundation on rock. When the flood came, the torrent struck that house but could not shake it, because it was well built. But the one who hears **MY WORDS** and does not put them into practice is like a man who built a house on the ground without a foundation. The moment the torrent struck that house, it collapsed and its destruction was complete!"



I Peter 1:23-25: You have been **BORN AGAIN THROUGH THE LIVING AND ENDURING **WORD OF GOD**!! All men are like grass, and all their glory is like the flowers of the field, the grass withers and the flowers fall, but the **WORD OF THE LORD STANDS FOREVER**. And this is the **WORD** that was preached to you.



Matthew 24:35: Jesus says, Heaven and earth will pass away, but **MY WORDS WILL NEVER PASS AWAY**!"



I John 2:3-5: We know we have come to know Him {Jesus} if we obey His commands. The man who says, "I know Him," but does not do what He commands is a liar and the truth is not in him. But if anyone **OBEYS HIS WORD**, God's love is truly made complete in him!



Matthew 4:4: Jesus says, "Man does not live on bread alone, but on **EVERY WORD FROM THE MOUTH OF GOD**!"



Luke 8:15: Jesus says, "But the seed on good soil stands for those with a noble and good heart, who hear the **WORD**, retain it, and by perseverance produce a crop."



John 17:17: Jesus prays to His Father, "Sanctify them by the Truth, **YOUR WORD IS TRUTH**!"



Acts 20:32: Paul says, "Now I commit you to God and to the **WORD OF HIS GRACE**, which can build you up and give you an inheritance among all those who are sanctified!"



Romans 10:17: Consequently, **FAITH COMES FROM HEARING THE MESSAGE**, and the message is heard **THROUGH THE WORD OF CHRIST**!



James 1:18; He chose to give us **BIRTH THROUGH THE WORD** of Truth!!



I Corinthians 15:2: By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the **WORD** preached to you. Otherwise you have believed in vain!



2 Corinthians 4:2: We do not use deception, nor do we distort the **WORD OF GOD**!



Ephesians 1:13: You also were included in Christ **WHEN** you heard the **WORD** of Truth, the gospel of your salvation.



Ephesians 2:17: Take the sword of the Spirit, which is the **WORD OF GOD**!



Colossians 1:25: I have become its servant by the commission God gave to me to present to you the **WORD OF GOD IN ALL ITS FULLNESS**!



Colossians 3:16: Let the **WORD OF CHRIST** dwell in you richly as you teach and admonish one another with all wisdom!



I Thessalonians 2:13: We thank God continually because, when you received the **WORD OF GOD**, which you heard from us, you received it not as the word of men, but as it actually is, the **WORD OF GOD**!



Acts 17:11,12: Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and **EXAMINED THE SCRIPTURES EVERY DAY**... As a result many of them believed!!



Psalm 118:147,148: I rise before dawn and cry for help; I have put my hope in **YOUR WORD**! My eyes stay open through the watches of the night, that I might meditate on **YOUR PROMISES**!!



2 Timothy 2:15: Do your best to present yourselves to God as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed and who **CORRECTLY HANDLES THE WORD ** of truth!



2 Timothy 3:15,16: 4:1,2: You have known the **HOLY SCRIPTURES**, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. **ALL SCRIPTURE IS GOD-BREATHED** and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of His appearing and His kingdom, I give you this charge: **PREACH THE WORD**!! {**WHICH IS THE ENTIRE NEW COVENANT AND NEW TESTAMENT**!!}



**DOES GOD"S WORD SAY THAT **ADDING** OR **TAKING WORD'S AWAY** FROM GOD's WORD IS AN UMPARDONABLE SIN**??



Revelation 22:16,18,19: "I, Jesus. have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the Churches.... I warn everyone who hears the **WORDS OF THE PROPHECY OF THIS BOOK**: If anyone **ADDS** {Like the RC popes} anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this Book {Including **ETERNAL HELL**} And if anyone **TAKES WORDS AWAY** {Like the RC popes} from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The New Jerusalem}, which are described in this book."



THE GREAT COMMISSION: Matthew 28:18-20: Jesus says, “All authority in heaven and on ***EARTH*** has been given to Me {Not some RC Pope}. Therefore go and make disciples of *ALL NATIONS*...teaching them to **OBEY EVERYTHING** I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very *END OF THE AGE*!”



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Posted : 27 Apr, 2019 12:21 PM

Prophetic 7744

Hey, A.I. Enity, I have a question for you:



You finish your last post with the following Scripture:

"Matthew 28:18-20: Jesus says, “All authority in heaven and on ***EARTH*** has been given to Me"



Overlooking the fact you have added to Scripture by modifying emphasis on the word earth, my question is still valid:



If Jesus was God then who gave him authority? If he gave up authority he once had as God only to receive it back. Then the Scripture should read:

"All authority in heaven and on earth has been given back to Me"



If you insist that Jesus was God and was given authority by another, it leaves you no choice; who have at least 2 Gods.



So how do you interpret (twist) this Scripture so it makes sense while still believing Jesus is God?

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Posted : 27 Apr, 2019 12:57 PM

SADlup you have repeatedly claimed that our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ is not God!! which absolutely contradicts the Word of God!!



**WE^^ WAIT FOR THE GLORIOUS APPEARING OF OUR GREAT GOD AND SAVIOR, JESUS CHRIST** Titus 2:13



Jesus is called **GOD** 7 times in God's Word and is called **LORD** over 200 times in the New Testament, and is **WORSHIPED** 12 times in the New Testament, and God's Word tells us to only **WORSHIP GOD**!! While the holy spirit is never called **GOD** or **LORD** in God's Word and is **NEVER WORSHIPED** in God's Word!!



And in Hebrews 1:1-3,6,8; Paul is inspired to write: "In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, but in these last days He has spoken to us by His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, and through whom He made the universe. The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of His being, sustaining all things by His powerful word... God says, "Let all God's angels **WORSHIP HIM**!!" and about His Son God says, "**YOUR THRONE**, **O GOD** will last for ever and ever!!"



Revelation 3:21,22: Jesus says, "To him who overcomes, I will give the right to sit with Me on **MY THRONE**, just as I overcame and sat down with **MY FATHER ON HIS THRONE**!!



These are the **ONLY 2 THRONES** in the eternal New Jerusalem as per Revelation 22:3 below!!! The holy spirit who many say are CO-EQUAL** with **GOD OUR FATHER** and our **LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST** does not have a **THRONE** in our **ETERNAL HOME IN THE NEW JERUSALEM**!!



NOTE: Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ is called the **LAMB** 30 times in the Book of Revelation!



Revelation 22:3: The **THRONE OF GOD** and of the **LAMB** will be in the City! {In our **ETERNAL** Home in the New Jerusalem}



Revelation 21:22-23: I did not see a temple in the City, because the **LORD GOD ALMIGHTY** and the **LAMB** are its temple. The City does not need the sun or the moon to shine on it, for the glory of **GOD** gives it light and the **LAMB** is its Lamp!!



Isaiah 9:6,7: For to us a Child is born, to us a Son is given, and the government will be on His shoulders. And He will be called Wonderful Counselor, **MIGHTY GOD** and Prince of Peace. Of the greatness of His government and peace there will be no end. He will reign on David's **THRONE** and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness from that time on and **FOREVER**. The zeal of the Lord Almighty will accomplish this!



John 1:1-4: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the **WORD WAS GOD** He was with God in the beginning. **THROUGH HIM** all things were made. In Him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind.



Colossians 1:15-18: The Son is the image of the invisible God. In Him all things were created, things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created **THROUGH HIM** and **FOR HIM**!! He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together. And He is the **HEAD** of the body, the church!!



John 1:18: No one has ever seen God, **BUT THE ONE AND ONLY SON**!! who is **HIMSELF GOD** and in closest relationship with the Father, has made Him known!!



Titus 2:13-14: We wait for the **BLESSED HOPE**--the glorious appearing of our great **GOD AND SAVIOR**, Jesus Christ, who gave Himself for us to redeem us from all wickedness and to glorify Himself a people that are **HIS VERY OWN**, eager to do what is good!



John 10:27-30: Jesus says, "My sheep listen to My voice, I know them, and they follow Me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish, no one can snatch them out of My hand. My Father, who has given them to Me is **GREATER THAN ALL**; no one can snatch them out of My Father's hand. I and My Father are **ONE**!"



John 20:27-29: Jesus said to Thomas, "Put your finger her, see My hands. Reach out your hand and put it into My side. Stop doubting and believe." Thomas said to Jesus, "**MY LORD** and **MY GOD**!: Then Jesus told him, Because you have seen Me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet believed!"



Philippians 2:5-11: Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus. Who being in very nature **GOD**, did not consider **Equality with God something to be grasped... He humbled Himself--even death on a cross! Therefore God exalted Him to the highest place and gave Him a name that is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that**JESUS IS LORD**, to the glory of God the father!!



Colossians 2:9,10: For in Christ **ALL THE FULLNESS OF THE DEITY LIVES** in bodily form, and you have been given fullness in Christ, who is the **HEAD**over every power and authority!!



I John 5:20: We know that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know Him {The *FATHER*} who is true. and we are in Him who is true by being in **HIS SON** Jesus Christ. He is **TRUE GOD** and eternal life!!



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