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To Dave, profit and adam
Posted : 26 Dec, 2018 04:00 AM

Hello everyone,

To these three men,Liitle David, profit, and adam.

This is a forum for people to post what they have learned in the Word of GOD Almighty.

The threads and and the Word of GOD Almighty are to be used as such.

Not for revenge, or to put others in their place.

2 Timothy 3 verses 16-17

16 All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness;

17 so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work.



I will ask David, profit and adam to repent, and to encourage one another unto Faith,, love and good deeds.

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Posted : 27 Dec, 2018 11:19 AM

**THE SATANIC TEACHING OF SINLESS PERFECTION BEFORE WE GET TO HEAVEN**



2 Timothy 3:15,16: 4:1,2: You have known the **HOLY SCRIPTURES**, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. **ALL SCRIPTURE IS GOD-BREATHED** and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of His appearing and His kingdom, I give you this charge: **PREACH THE WORD**!! {**WHICH IS THE ENTIRE NEW COVENANT AND NEW TESTAMENT**!!} be prepared in season and out of season, correct. rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction. For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn from the truth and turn aside to myths. {Like **SINLESS PERFECTION THE MOMENT WE ARE SAVED**}



Matthew 18:10-14: Jesus said, �Two men went up to the temple to **PRAY**, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee {Like Adam7777} stood up and **PRAYED** about himself: 'God, I thank you that I am not like other men�robbers, evildoers, adulterers�or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.' But the tax collector stood at a distance, He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, '**GOD, HAVE MERCY ON ME, A SINNER**'!!.'"I tell you that this man rather than the other, went home justified before God. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted!�



Matthew 4:4: Jesus says, "Man does not live on bread alone, but on **EVERY WORD FROM THE MOUTH OF GOD**!"



I John 1:6: Whoever claims to live in Him **MUST** LIVE AS JESUS DID**!!



John 15:12: Jesus says, "**MY COMMAND** is this: Love each other **AS I HAVE LOVED YOU**!!"



Matthew 5:48: Jesus says, "Be perfect **AS YOUR HEAVENLY FATHER IS PERFECT**!!"



Every born from above saint will try to obey the above four New Covenant commands with all their heart. However, it is obvious that God's saints will fall short of completely obeying the above 4 commands of God!!!



Mark 10:18: Jesus says, "No one is good--except God alone!!"



While Adam7777 claims to be sinless and **PERFECT** it is interesting to note that Adam7777 has **SEPARATED** from his wife and therefore has not been a **PERFECT SINLESS HUSBAND**!! For God's word states in Matthew 19:5,6: Jesus says, "A man shall leave his father and mother and be united to his wife and they shall become one flesh, they are no longer two, but one flash. Therefore what God has joined together let no man {Like Adam7777} separate!!"



And so if Adam7777's separated wife is a Christian they are both living continually in sin for we are commanded to forgive our brother or sister or wife in Christ not 7 times but 70 times 7 times! And if Adam7777 married an unsaved woman it is also terrible sin in the NT!!



Romans 7:14-20,25: The Apostle Paul says, "We know that the law is spiritual, but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do --**THIS I KEEP ON DOING**. Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it!... So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God's law, but in my sinful nature a slave to the law of sin."



He who is born again does not **CONTINUALLY** sin, and is not a **HABITUAL** sinner as he was before he came to know Jesus. The born again believer has no urge to sin as he once did, because he was driven only by his fallen nature. He who is born again will not continue in, or like their sin. If anyone continually and habitually sins, and does not feel ill about it, it may prove that he has **NEVER** been spiritually renewed.



The closer we grow in our relationship with Jesus Christ, the more we will see our sinfulness. To claim that we are no longer a sinner in any fashion, and no longer sin, shows how far away we are from the Lord and His word. God's saints are not good all the time like God and are not **SINLESS** but they **SIN FAR LESS**. The man who claims any perfection except that perfection which we have in Christ, is a hypocrite. He is not sinless in the flesh, and simply lies if he says that he is. He is exactly like the Pharisees of old, who thought that they were sinless in the flesh also. Only when we are delivered from "this body of death," will we be delivered from sin completely.



The alleged "sinless perfection" that results from "sanctification" is a monstrous doctrine that plays right into the hands of Satan. Believing this doctrine, one man claimed, �Since I have been sanctified, every impulse or desire to sin has been completely erased from my heart!� This statement indicates a totally false sense of spiritual security and immunity to sin. Such a position makes repentance, confession, and the need of forgiveness of sins logically inapplicable, if not impossible.



I John 1:3-10: We proclaim to you what we have seen and heard, so that you may have fellowship with us... We write this to make **OUR JOY COMPLETE**. This is the message we have heard **FROM HIM** and declare to you: If we claim to be without sin {Like Adam7777}, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. **IF WE CONFESS OUR SINS**, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned {Like Adam7777} we make Him out to be a liar and **HIS WORD IS NOT IN US**!



Luke 11:1-4: The **DISCIPLES** asked Jesus, "Lord teach as to pray." Jesus replied **TO HIS DISCIPLES**, "When you pray, say: '**FATHER**, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come. Give us each day our **DAILY** bread. **FORGIVE US OUR SINS**, for we also forgive everyone who sins against us!'"



I Corinthians 9:21; Paul says, "I am under **CHRIST'S LAW**!!"



Galatians 6:1-3: Is someone is caught in a sin, you who live by the Spirit should restore him gently... Carry each others burdens, and in this way you fulfill the **LAW OF CHRIST**!!



Matthew 4:4: Jesus says, "Man shall live by **EVERY WORD** that comes from the mouth of God!"



James 5:16: **CONFESS YOUR SINS** to each other and pray for each other!!



Psalm 38:18: David said, "I **CONFESS MY SIN**; I am troubled by **MY SIN**!"{And yet God says that David is a man after my own heart as per Acts 13:22**} And Jesus says, "I am the Root and Offspring of David!" in Revelation 22:16!!}



Daniel 9:20: Daniel said, "While I was speaking and praying, **CONFESSING MY SIN**!"



Adam7777 claimed that the Apostle Peter never sinned after the coming of the Holy Spirit?? However:



Galatians 2:11-13: Paul was inspired to write, "When Cephas {Peter} came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because **HE STOOD CONDEMNED**. For before certain men came from James, he used to eat with the Gentiles. But when they arrived, he began to draw back and separate himself from the Gentiles because he was afraid of those who belonged to the circumcision group. The other Jews joined him in **HIS HYPOCRISY, so that by their hypocrisy even **BARNABAS WAS LED ASTRAY**!"



Revelation 3:19: Jesus says, "Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline, so be earnest and **REPENT**!!" {**OF YOUR SINS**!!}



Hebrews 12:5-11: Do not make light of the Lord's discipline, and do not lose heart when He rebukes you, because the Lord disciplines those He loves, and He chastens **EVERYONE** HE ACCEPTS AS A SON**!!! Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as His children. For what children are not disciplined by their father {FOR THEIR SINS**}? If you are not disciplined--and everyone undergoes discipline--**THEN YOU ARE NOT LEGITIMATE**, not true sons and daughters at all. Moreover, we have all had human fathers who disciplined us{FOR OUR SINS!} and we respected them for it. How much more should we submit to the Father of spirits and live! They disciplined us for a little while as they thought best; but God disciplines us for our good, in order that we may share in His holiness. No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it!



Galatians 6:1: Brothers, if someone is caught in a sin, you who are spiritual should restore him gently. But watch yourself, or you may also be tempted. Carry each others burdens, and in this way you fulfill the law of Christ!!



Since Adam7777 claims that he **NO LONGER SINNED** the moment he was saved; he completely disagrees with the above passages from the inspired Words of God. And since he believes he was completely perfect when he was saved there is no reason for him to want **ETERNAL HEAVENLY REWARDS** for faithful and loving service.



**HOWEVER, GOD'S WORD COMPLETELY DISAGREES WITH HIM**!!



Matthew 16:27: Jesus says, "For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father's glory with His angels and **THEN** He will **REWARD** each person according to what they have done!"



Matthew 5:11,12: Jesus says, �Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your **REWARD** **IN HEAVEN**!�



I Corinthians 9:24-27: Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize. Everyone who competes in the games goes in to strict training. They do it to get a **CROWN** that will not last; but we do it to get a **CROWN THAT WILL LAST FOREVER**! Therefore I do not run like a man running aimlessly; I do not fight like a man beating the air. No, I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize!



Luke 11:33,34: Jesus says, "Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide purses for yourselves that will not wear out, a **TREASURE** IN HEAVEN** that will never fail, where no thief comes near and no moth destroys. For where your **TREASURE** is, there your **HEART** will be also!"



2 Corinthians 5:9,10: We make it our goal to please Him... for we must all appear before the Judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive what is due him for the things done while in the body, whether good or ***BAD***.



Luke 18:19 and Mark 10:18; Jesus says, "No on is good except God alone!" Those who are born from above do many good works that will be **ETERNALLY REWARDED** but only God is good **ALL THE TIME**. The sins a believer does will also be deducted from their **ETERNAL REWARDS** especially if the believer does not repent and ask forgiveness for some of his sins that he knows are sins.



There are about 400 commandments in the New Covenant and a young believer will not know a lot of these 400 NT commands and James 4:17 says: If anyone knows the good they ought to do and doesn't do it, it is sin for them!!



There are some believers like the thief on the cross who will not have time to do many good works and may not receive any **ETERNAL REWARDS** even though they will be saved!



1 Corinthians 3:13-15: His work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each man's work. If what he has built survives, he will receive his **REWARD**. If it is burned up he will suffer loss; **HE HIMSELF WILL BE SAVED**, but only as one escaping through the flames.



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Posted : 27 Dec, 2018 12:09 PM

Through coveteousness, which is through lust and lust when finished brings sin. ..



James 1:15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.



Through preaching unrighteousness, spots and blemishes they display of their fruit. Have eyes that are not a little part filled with adultery, but filled with adultery and cannot cease from sin..



2 Peter 2:3 And THROUGH COVETEOUSNESS shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

13 And shall receive the REWARD OF UNRIGHTEOUSNESS, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. SPOTS THEY ARE AND BLEMISHES, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you;

14 HAVING EYES FULL OF ADULTERY, AND THAT CANNOT CEASE FROM SIN; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:



The other way:



1 Peter 4:1 Forasmuch then AS CHRIST hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh HATH CEASED FROM SIN;

1 Peter 4:2 That he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God.



Clear why we are to not sin any longer, because worse punishment comes our way. This is reaffirmed how they received punishment for every injustice they did and how much more sore punishment we deserve..



Hebrews 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?



John 5:14 Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: SIN NO MORE, LEST A WORSE THING COME UNTO THEE.



1 John 2:1 My little children, THESE THINGS WRITE I UNTO YOU, THAT YE SIN NOT. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:



Then when we purify ourselves, the process is described, and� any teachers opinion that takes from these words takes his own place out of the book of life, because we cannot love our brother on some days and hate him on one day out of seven...



1 John 3:3� And every man that hath THIS HOPE IN HIM PURIFIETH HIMSELF, EVEN AS HE IS PURE.

4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.

6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

7 Little children, LET NO MAN DECEIVE YOU ( SUCH AS propheticlittledavid) : HE THAT DOETH RIGHTEOUSNESS IS RIGHTEOUS, even as he is righteous.

8 HE THAT COMITTETH SIN IS OF THE DEVIL; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: WHOSOEVER DOETH NOT RIGHTEOUSNESS IS NOT OF GOD, neither he that loveth not his brother.



"I John 1:8-10; 2:1-6:: If we claim to be without sin {LIKE Adam7777}, we deceive ourselves and the **TRUTH IS NOT IN US**! If we **CONFESS OUR SINS**, He is faithful and just and will **FORGIVE US OUR SINS** and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned {Like Adam7777} we make Him out to be a liar and **HIS WORD IS NOT IN US**!! If anybody does sin, we have an Advocate with the Father--Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world. We know that we have come to know Him **IF WE KEEP HIS COMMANDS**! Whoever says, "I know Him," but does not do what He commands is a liar, and the truth is not in that person. But if anyone **OBEYS HIS WORD**, love for God is truly made complete in them. This is how we know we are in Him! Whoever claims to live in Him **MUST** live as Jesus did!! {Adam7777 claims that he is sinless and therefore lived as Jesus did!}"



1 John 1:3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.



1 John 1:5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:

7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word (Jesus Christ Holy Spirit) is not in us.



No darkness in the Lord, He is light, and we desire to fellowship with Him in His light and in His truth, we know we need to receive that Spirit of Truth or there is no truth in us yet, (as it is the Spirit of Truth) walking in darkness, Then when we begin to walk in the same as God is light, fellowshipping then with the Apostles and other righteous men who are spiritual, then the blood of Christ cleans us of all sin, and if we (those who have not even begun to walk in the Spirit) still refuse to say they are doing nothing wrong, the truth is not in them for doing wrong and not repenting to change, (no Spirit of truth in them yet) We, (they who have not fellowshipped yet) confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness, and if we say we have not sinned we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us (we being the ones who are not justified)



Jesus is the forgiveness and payment for our sins, He also is light and the reason for us to escape the darkness, to follow Him is to follow light and not walking in darkness. We know Him when we keep His commandments, and to keep His word, in us is PERFECTED THE LOVE OF GOD, not incomplete or imperfect, because we do not know by the sins we confess that we are in Him, we know by not hating our brother, this is to be in the light. Told again, we lie if we say we love God and we hate our brother.



1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.



1 John 2:9 He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.



1 John 4:20 IF A MAN SAY, I LOVE GOD, AND HATETH HIS BROTHER, HE IS A LIAR: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?�



"While Adam7777 teaches that salvation eternal life are not **FREE GIFTS OF GOD** but are earned by someone who does **GOOD WORKS** and is **SINLESS**???"





Salvation is not through belief in unrighteousness which is what sin is, but through belief in righteousness which is what sin is not..



Romans 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

1 John 5:17 All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.



"Adam7777 and Satan believe that if you sin after you are saved you are then eternally lost or you were never saved at all???"





Saved from satan, likewise to be saved from God was to fully serve satan in sins and iniquity, never departing from iniquity, now the servant of God is saved from satan by departing from his (satan's) iniquity..



2 Timothy 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.



Romans 13:12 The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.



1 John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.





"He who is born again does not **CONTINUALLY** sin, and is not a **HABITUAL** sinner as he was before he came to know Jesus. The born again believer has no urge to sin as he once did, because he was driven by his fallen nature. He who is born again will not continue in, or like their sin. If anyone continually and habitually sins, and does not feel ill about it, it may prove that he has NEVER been spiritually renewed."



SPIRITUALLY RENEWED ACCORDING TO THIS WRITERS "OPINION" AS IT IS NOT SCRIPTURE, THIS IS WHY IT IS AN OPINION, IS TO ONLY SIN WHEN HE SLIPS UP. IF THIS WAS A TRUE WITNESS WE WOULD HAVE COUNTLESS EXAMPLES OF APOSTLE PAUL SLIPPING UP, AND CONFESSING THE SINS TO SHOW US THE WAY TO FOLLOW. BUT APOSTLE PAUL CONFESSED NOTHING OF WHAT HE DID WRONG, BUT WE SEE HE CAST DOWN EVERY IMAGINATION TO OBEDIENCE OF CHRIST AND BROUGHT UNDER HIS BODY UNTO SUBJECTION. CONFIRMED IN THE LAW FULFILLED IN US, NOT MOSTLY OR NEARLY ALL..Romans 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. Romans 2:15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;)



"The closer we grow in our relationship with Jesus Christ, the more we will see our sinfulness. To claim that we are no longer a sinner in any fashion, and no longer sin, shows how far away we are from the Lord and His word. God's saints are not **SINLESS** but they **SIN FAR LESS**. The man who claims any perfection except that perfection which we have in Christ, is a hypocrite. He is not sinless in the flesh, and simply lies if he says that he is. He is exactly like the Pharisees of old, who thought that they were sinless in the flesh also. .Only when we are delivered from "this body of death," will we be delivered from sin completely."



THERE IS NO SCRIPTURE ABOUT GROWING IN OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS OR OF SEEING OUR SINFULNESS MORE. JESUS CHRIST WAS SINLESS IN THE FLESH TO SHOW US HOW TO DO HIS SAME RIGHT WAYS, THE BODY OF DEATH IS DELIVERED FROM, CRUCIFIED IN THE FLESH..



Galatians 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.



Romans 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.



Colossians 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.





"The alleged "sinless perfection" that results from "sanctification" is a monstrous doctrine that plays right into the hands of Satan. Believing this doctrine, one man claimed, �Since I have been sanctified, every impulse or desire to sin has been completely erased from my heart!�8 This statement indicates a totally false sense of spiritual security and immunity to sin. Such a position makes repentance, confession, and the need of forgiveness of sins logically inapplicable, if not impossible. "



IT IS TOLD EXACTLY WHAT TO DO WITH THE AFFECTIONS AND LUSTS..Galatians 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.



SO THE IMPULSES DO NOT GO AWAY THEY ARE DEALT WITH, EXACTLY AS APOSTLE PAUL EXAMPLED, WHICH GIVES US THE NEED FOR THE LORDS FORGIVENESS TO BE SINCERE AS WE DO NOT THROW IT BACK IN HIS FACE, WE DO WHAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO DO WITH THE GIFT HE HAS GIVEN US...



2 Corinthians 10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;



1 Corinthians 9:27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.



Others do this;



Hebrews 6:6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.



"Romans 7:14-20,25: The Apostle Paul says, "We know that the law is spiritual, but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do."



YES WE KNOW THAT HOLY APOSTLE PAUL IS UNSPIRITUAL. OR. WE KNOW THAT HE WAS UNSPIRITUAL, AND WAS THE CHIEF OF SINNERS, AND WE KNOW WE WERE SLAVES TO SIN, NOW WE KNOW WHO WE SERVE AND WE DO WHAT WE LOVE NOW, WE HATED THE THINGS WE DID WHEN CARNAL AS WE ARE NOW ASHAMED OF THEM, READ CAREFULLY FOR YOUR ANSWER DECEIVERS, THAT WAS NOT FIRST WHICH IS SPIRITUAL, BUT THAT WHICH IS NATURAL, AND AFTERWARD THAT WHICH IS SPIRITUAL PROPHETICLITTLEDAVID HAS SHOWN EVERYBODY THAT HE IS CARNAL AND NOT SPIRITUAL AND HAS NO DISCERNMENT..



1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.



Romans 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.



1 Corinthians 15:46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.



Galatians 6:1 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.



Romans 6:20 For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness.

21 What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death.

22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.



The strange teachers gave Romans 7:22� as having to be believers that Paul spoke about, but no scripture in the bible is identifiable with believers delighting to do the law of God and failing miserably, this is the first covenant that is testified about as it surely cant be the first covenant and also the second covenant :)



Romans 7:22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:



Isaiah 58:2 Yet they seek me daily, and delight to know my ways, as a nation that did righteousness, and forsook not the ordinance of their God: they ask of me the ordinances of justice; they take delight in approaching to God.



Then Romans 8 shows the new covenant and new way that the strange teachers seem to be unaware of?



Romans 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.



These strange teachers also gave James 3:8 as example that no man can tame his tongue. But they did not consider that the man without God cant do this, but with God, why cant we ?



James 1:26 If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain.



James 3:8 But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.



So the man of God has not got his tongue as full of deadly poisen, his tongue is bridled by Jesus Christ, like this..



Acts 8:32 The place of the scripture which he read was this, He was led as a sheep to the slaughter; and like a lamb dumb before his shearer, so opened he not his mouth:



1 Peter 2:23 Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously:



These adulterers that cannot cease from sin, that say they are believers, are exhorted to submit themselves to God, to resist the evil they do, because they are lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God..



2 Timothy 3:4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;



Exhorted to cleanse their hands, which means confessing sins to be forgiven, and also, to purify their hearts. Caught up in faults, not having the devil to flee from them because they do not resist him yet, and not being born again of that Holy Spirit of Truth keeping themselves through this and the wicked one then as told, touches them not, but they confess their faults, (not the Spiritual ones who are urged to consider themselves to not be tempted) it makes no truth or sense for the same ones who are exhorted to consider themselves not to be tempted to have to confess their sins also.



James 4:1 From whence come wars and fightings among you? come they not hence, even of your lusts that war in your members?

2 Ye lust, and have not: ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: ye fight and war, yet ye have not, because ye ask not.

3 Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts.

4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.

5 Do ye think that the scripture saith in vain, The spirit that dwelleth in us lusteth to envy?

6 But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.

7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.



Then the same strange teachers quoted James 5 next, that it suggests for them that all believers in Christ are sickly and caught in faults, because they desperately want some scripture to verify the Lords prayer of forgiving our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us. But every scripture shows those in faults, which must mean some are in faults (shows non spiritual) but not everybody..



James 5:14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:

15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.



The ones not in faults if they are succoured from temptation by the throne of grace..



Hebrews 2:17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.

18 For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.



Christ suffereth not our feet to be moved, he suffureth to be tempted, so he suffureth� our feet to never be moved. God suffereth being tempted to not let our feet be moved. Suffereth being tempted as a trial or test, He resisted overcame and shows us the way..



Psalm 66:9 Which holdeth our soul in life, and suffereth not our feet to be moved.



Hebrews 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.

16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.



Galatians 6:1 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.



Because the strange teachers have attempted by Romans 7 and by sometimes showing Paul as the chief of sinners, it can only be right to hear what is testified over and over about Holy Apostle Paul's actual behavior so we know what we must do too, along with what we must be presented as, which double confirms it..



Colossians 1:22 In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:



Philippians 2:15 That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;



Ephesians 5:27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.



2 Peter 3:14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.



1 Timothy 6:11 But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness.

12 Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses.

13 I give thee charge in the sight of God, who quickeneth all things, and before Christ Jesus, who before Pontius Pilate witnessed a good confession;

14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:



Romans 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.



2 Corinthians 5:9 Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him.



2 Corinthians 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.



Colossians 1:28 Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:



Titus 2:12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;



Jude 1:24 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,



Now to see if this is words or it is REAL TRUE ways?



1 Corinthians 9:25 And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible.

26 I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air:



Acts 24:16 And herein do I exercise myself, to have always a conscience void to offence toward God, and toward men.



1 Corinthians 10:32 Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God:

33 Even as I please all men in all things, not seeking mine own profit, but the profit of many, that they may be saved.



Galatians 2:17 But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid.



2 Thessalonians 3:7 For yourselves know how ye ought to follow us: for we behaved not ourselves disorderly among you;



Now warning against those who resist the truth and are reprobate concerning the faith, ( is reprobate because they seek to do perfectionism heresy or because they say they are forgiven and delivered to do all these abominations?)



Jeremiah 7:8 Behold, ye trust in lying words, that cannot profit.

9 Will ye steal, murder, and commit adultery, and swear falsely, and burn incense unto Baal, and walk after other gods whom ye know not;

10 And come and stand before me in this house, which is called by my name, and say, We are delivered to do all these abominations?



2 Timothy 3:8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.

9 But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as their's also was.

10 But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience,



2 Timothy 3:13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.

14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;

16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.



Last confirmation, which is three, is Revelations, how they are found with Him..



1 Peter 2:21 For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:

22 Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth:



Revelation 14:5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.



Revelation 14:4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.



Revelation 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.









"While Adam7777 claims to be sinless and **PERFECT** it is interesting to note that Adam7777 has **SEPARATED** from his wife and therefore has not been a **PERFECT SINLESS HUSBAND**!!"



I thought God is the righteous judge who is prophetic then..



2 Thessalonians 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.



1 Corinthians 7:15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.





Before the Holy Ghost filled in us how can any man be good, and then....



Mark 10:18: Jesus says, "No one is good--except God alone!!"

Acts 11:24 FOR HE WAS A GOOD MAN, AND FULL OF THE HOLY GHOST and of faith: and much people was added unto the Lord.







They without us are not made perfect God having provided some better thing for us..



Hebrews 11:32 And what shall I more say? for the time would fail me to tell of Gedeon, and of Barak, and of Samson, and of Jephthae; of David also, and Samuel, and of the prophets:

33 Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions ( Daniel).

Daniel 6:22 My God hath sent his angel, and hath shut the lions' mouths, that they have not hurt me: forasmuch as before him INNOCENCY WAS FOUND IN ME; and also before thee, O king, have I done no hurt.



"Psalm 38:18: David said, "I **CONFESS MY SIN**; I am troubled by **MY SIN**!"{And yet God says that David is a man after my own heart as per Acts 13:22**} And Jesus says, "I am the Root and Offspring of David!" in Revelation 22:16!!}

Daniel 9:20: Daniel said, "While I was speaking and praying, **CONFESSING MY SIN**!" "



Hebrews 11:39 And these all, (DAVID/ DANIEL) having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise:

40 God having provided SOME BETTER THING FOR US, THAT THEY WITHOUT US SHOULD NOT BE MADE PERFECT.



This is the better more perfect thing even than the son of David, Solomon:



Matthew 12:42 The queen of the south shall rise up in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: for she came from the uttermost parts of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and, behold, a greater than Solomon is here.







"Galatians 2:11-13: Paul was inspired to write, "When Cephas {Peter} came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because **HE STOOD CONDEMNED**. For before certain men came from James, he used to eat with the Gentiles. But when they arrived, he began to draw back and separate himself from the Gentiles because he was afraid of those who belonged to the circumcision group. The other Jews joined him in **HIS HYPOCRISY, so that by their hypocrisy even **BARNABAS WAS LED ASTRAY**!" "



dissimulation...concealment of one's thoughts...Galatians 2:13 And the other Jews dissembled likewise with him; insomuch that Barnabas also was carried away with their dissimulation.



The Lord had not revealed yet the concealment of the cleansing of the Gentiles, how does prophetic say Peter should know what is not told yet? It is testified and confirmed, the circumcision were ASTONISHED, THAT ON THE GENTILES THE GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST WAS POURED ON THEM ALSO PROVING NOBODY KNEW..



Acts 10:17 Now while Peter doubted in himself what this vision which he had seen should mean, behold, the men which were sent from Cornelius had made enquiry for Simon's house, and stood before the gate,

45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.



Acts 11:9 But the voice answered me again from heaven, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.

18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.





WE THAT ARE STRONG AND SPIRITUAL OUGHT AND ARE ABLE TO BEAR THE MISTAKES OF THE CARNAL WEAK..



Romans 15:1 We then that are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak, and not to please ourselves.

Galatians 6:2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.







John 15:12: Jesus says, "**MY COMMAND** is this: Love each other **AS I HAVE LOVED YOU**!!"

Matthew 5:48: Jesus says, "Be perfect **AS YOUR HEAVENLY FATHER IS PERFECT**!!"



"Every born from above saint will try to obey the above four New Covenant commands with all their heart. However, it is obvious that God's saints will fall short of completely obeying the above 4 commands of God!!!"



Love as Jesus loves, is it difficult for propheticdavid..



1 John 3:16 Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.



Acts 20:24 But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God.



Acts 21:13 Then Paul answered, What mean ye to weep and to break mine heart? for I am ready not to be bound only, but also to die at Jerusalem for the name of the Lord Jesus.



To do more than sinners propheticdavid cannot do?



Luke 6:32 For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them.



Luke 6:34 And if ye lend to them of whom ye hope to receive, what thank have ye? for sinners also lend to sinners, to receive as much again.



Matthew 5:47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?



Luke 6:35 But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.

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**THE SATANIC TEACHING OF SINLESS PERFECTION BEFORE WE GET TO HEAVEN**



2 Timothy 3:15,16: 4:1,2: You have known the **HOLY SCRIPTURES**, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. **ALL SCRIPTURE IS GOD-BREATHED** and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of His appearing and His kingdom, I give you this charge: **PREACH THE WORD**!! {**WHICH IS THE ENTIRE NEW COVENANT AND NEW TESTAMENT**!!} be prepared in season and out of season, correct. rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction. For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn from the truth and turn aside to myths. {Like **SINLESS PERFECTION THE MOMENT WE ARE SAVED**}



Matthew 18:10-14: Jesus said, �Two men went up to the temple to **PRAY**, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee {Like Adam7777} stood up and **PRAYED** about himself: 'God, I thank you that I am not like other men�robbers, evildoers, adulterers�or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.' But the tax collector stood at a distance, He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, '**GOD, HAVE MERCY ON ME, A SINNER**'!!.'"I tell you that this man rather than the other, went home justified before God. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted!�



Matthew 4:4: Jesus says, "Man does not live on bread alone, but on **EVERY WORD FROM THE MOUTH OF GOD**!"



I John 1:6: Whoever claims to live in Him **MUST** LIVE AS JESUS DID**!!



John 15:12: Jesus says, "**MY COMMAND** is this: Love each other **AS I HAVE LOVED YOU**!!"



Matthew 5:48: Jesus says, "Be perfect **AS YOUR HEAVENLY FATHER IS PERFECT**!!"



Every born from above saint will try to obey the above four New Covenant commands with all their heart. However, it is obvious that God's saints will fall short of completely obeying the above 4 commands of God!!!



Mark 10:18: Jesus says, "No one is good--except God alone!!"



While Adam7777 claims to be sinless and **PERFECT** it is interesting to note that Adam7777 has **SEPARATED** from his wife and therefore has not been a **PERFECT SINLESS HUSBAND**!! For God's word states in Matthew 19:5,6: Jesus says, "A man shall leave his father and mother and be united to his wife and they shall become one flesh, they are no longer two, but one flash. Therefore what God has joined together let no man {Like Adam7777} separate!!"



And so if Adam7777's separated wife is a Christian they are both living continually in sin for we are commanded to forgive our brother or sister or wife in Christ not 7 times but 70 times 7 times! And if Adam7777 married an unsaved woman it is also terrible sin in the NT!!



Romans 7:14-20,25: The Apostle Paul says, "We know that the law is spiritual, but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do --**THIS I KEEP ON DOING**. Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it!... So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God's law, but in my sinful nature a slave to the law of sin."



He who is born again does not **CONTINUALLY** sin, and is not a **HABITUAL** sinner as he was before he came to know Jesus. The born again believer has no urge to sin as he once did, because he was driven only by his fallen nature. He who is born again will not continue in, or like their sin. If anyone continually and habitually sins, and does not feel ill about it, it may prove that he has **NEVER** been spiritually renewed.



The closer we grow in our relationship with Jesus Christ, the more we will see our sinfulness. To claim that we are no longer a sinner in any fashion, and no longer sin, shows how far away we are from the Lord and His word. God's saints are not good all the time like God and are not **SINLESS** but they **SIN FAR LESS**. The man who claims any perfection except that perfection which we have in Christ, is a hypocrite. He is not sinless in the flesh, and simply lies if he says that he is. He is exactly like the Pharisees of old, who thought that they were sinless in the flesh also. Only when we are delivered from "this body of death," will we be delivered from sin completely.



The alleged "sinless perfection" that results from "sanctification" is a monstrous doctrine that plays right into the hands of Satan. Believing this doctrine, one man claimed, �Since I have been sanctified, every impulse or desire to sin has been completely erased from my heart!� This statement indicates a totally false sense of spiritual security and immunity to sin. Such a position makes repentance, confession, and the need of forgiveness of sins logically inapplicable, if not impossible.



I John 1:3-10: We proclaim to you what we have seen and heard, so that you may have fellowship with us... We write this to make **OUR JOY COMPLETE**. This is the message we have heard **FROM HIM** and declare to you: If we claim to be without sin {Like Adam7777}, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. **IF WE CONFESS OUR SINS**, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned {Like Adam7777} we make Him out to be a liar and **HIS WORD IS NOT IN US**!



Luke 11:1-4: The **DISCIPLES** asked Jesus, "Lord teach as to pray." Jesus replied **TO HIS DISCIPLES**, "When you pray, say: '**FATHER**, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come. Give us each day our **DAILY** bread. **FORGIVE US OUR SINS**, for we also forgive everyone who sins against us!'"



I Corinthians 9:21; Paul says, "I am under **CHRIST'S LAW**!!"



Galatians 6:1-3: Is someone is caught in a sin, you who live by the Spirit should restore him gently... Carry each others burdens, and in this way you fulfill the **LAW OF CHRIST**!!



Matthew 4:4: Jesus says, "Man shall live by **EVERY WORD** that comes from the mouth of God!"



James 5:16: **CONFESS YOUR SINS** to each other and pray for each other!!



Psalm 38:18: David said, "I **CONFESS MY SIN**; I am troubled by **MY SIN**!"{And yet God says that David is a man after my own heart as per Acts 13:22**} And Jesus says, "I am the Root and Offspring of David!" in Revelation 22:16!!}



Daniel 9:20: Daniel said, "While I was speaking and praying, **CONFESSING MY SIN**!"



Adam7777 claimed that the Apostle Peter never sinned after the coming of the Holy Spirit?? However:



Galatians 2:11-13: Paul was inspired to write, "When Cephas {Peter} came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because **HE STOOD CONDEMNED**. For before certain men came from James, he used to eat with the Gentiles. But when they arrived, he began to draw back and separate himself from the Gentiles because he was afraid of those who belonged to the circumcision group. The other Jews joined him in **HIS HYPOCRISY, so that by their hypocrisy even **BARNABAS WAS LED ASTRAY**!"



Revelation 3:19: Jesus says, "Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline, so be earnest and **REPENT**!!" {**OF YOUR SINS**!!}



Hebrews 12:5-11: Do not make light of the Lord's discipline, and do not lose heart when He rebukes you, because the Lord disciplines those He loves, and He chastens **EVERYONE** HE ACCEPTS AS A SON**!!! Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as His children. For what children are not disciplined by their father {FOR THEIR SINS**}? If you are not disciplined--and everyone undergoes discipline--**THEN YOU ARE NOT LEGITIMATE**, not true sons and daughters at all. Moreover, we have all had human fathers who disciplined us{FOR OUR SINS!} and we respected them for it. How much more should we submit to the Father of spirits and live! They disciplined us for a little while as they thought best; but God disciplines us for our good, in order that we may share in His holiness. No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it!



Galatians 6:1: Brothers, if someone is caught in a sin, you who are spiritual should restore him gently. But watch yourself, or you may also be tempted. Carry each others burdens, and in this way you fulfill the law of Christ!!



Since Adam7777 claims that he **NO LONGER SINNED** the moment he was saved; he completely disagrees with the above passages from the inspired Words of God. And since he believes he was completely perfect when he was saved there is no reason for him to want **ETERNAL HEAVENLY REWARDS** for faithful and loving service.



**HOWEVER, GOD'S WORD COMPLETELY DISAGREES WITH HIM**!!



Matthew 16:27: Jesus says, "For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father's glory with His angels and **THEN** He will **REWARD** each person according to what they have done!"



Matthew 5:11,12: Jesus says, �Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your **REWARD** **IN HEAVEN**!�



I Corinthians 9:24-27: Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize. Everyone who competes in the games goes in to strict training. They do it to get a **CROWN** that will not last; but we do it to get a **CROWN THAT WILL LAST FOREVER**! Therefore I do not run like a man running aimlessly; I do not fight like a man beating the air. No, I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize!



Luke 11:33,34: Jesus says, "Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide purses for yourselves that will not wear out, a **TREASURE** IN HEAVEN** that will never fail, where no thief comes near and no moth destroys. For where your **TREASURE** is, there your **HEART** will be also!"



2 Corinthians 5:9,10: We make it our goal to please Him... for we must all appear before the Judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive what is due him for the things done while in the body, whether good or ***BAD***.



Luke 18:19 and Mark 10:18; Jesus says, "No on is good except God alone!" Those who are born from above do many good works that will be **ETERNALLY REWARDED** but only God is good **ALL THE TIME**. The sins a believer does will also be deducted from their **ETERNAL REWARDS** especially if the believer does not repent and ask forgiveness for some of his sins that he knows are sins.



There are about 400 commandments in the New Covenant and a young believer will not know a lot of these 400 NT commands and James 4:17 says: If anyone knows the good they ought to do and doesn't do it, it is sin for them!!



There are some believers like the thief on the cross who will not have time to do many good works and may not receive any **ETERNAL REWARDS** even though they will be saved!



1 Corinthians 3:13-15: His work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each man's work. If what he has built survives, he will receive his **REWARD**. If it is burned up he will suffer loss; **HE HIMSELF WILL BE SAVED**, but only as one escaping through the flames.



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The devil does not teach to be perfect as God is perfect, God does. God does not contradict and blaspheme and dispute what the devil commanded man, this is solely what the devil has done and continues to try to do against what God has told us...



Matthew 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

18 A GOOD TREE CANNOT BRING FORTH EVIL FRUIT, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.



There is a wide crooked path and a narrow straight one, so is it easier to believe we must actually..Keep the commandments of God OR easier to believe we cannot keep them but try and fail and be forgiven, which path of the two are the many on whose ears can be charmed?...........................



2 Peter 2:2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of................





Through coveteousness, which is through lust and lust when finished brings sin. ..



James 1:15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.



Through preaching unrighteousness, spots and blemishes they display of their fruit. Have eyes that are not a little part filled with adultery, but filled with adultery and cannot cease from sin..



2 Peter 2:3 And THROUGH COVETEOUSNESS shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

13 And shall receive the REWARD OF UNRIGHTEOUSNESS, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. SPOTS THEY ARE AND BLEMISHES, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you;

14 HAVING EYES FULL OF ADULTERY, AND THAT CANNOT CEASE FROM SIN; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:



The other way:



1 Peter 4:1 Forasmuch then AS CHRIST hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh HATH CEASED FROM SIN;

1 Peter 4:2 That he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God.



Clear why we are to not sin any longer, because worse punishment comes our way. This is reaffirmed how they received punishment for every injustice they did and how much more sore punishment we deserve..



Hebrews 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?



John 5:14 Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: SIN NO MORE, LEST A WORSE THING COME UNTO THEE.



1 John 2:1 My little children, THESE THINGS WRITE I UNTO YOU, THAT YE SIN NOT. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:



Then when we purify ourselves, the process is described, and�any teachers opinion that takes from these words takes his own place out of the book of life, because we cannot love our brother on some days and hate him on one day out of seven...



1 John 3:3� And every man that hath THIS HOPE IN HIM PURIFIETH HIMSELF, EVEN AS HE IS PURE.

4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.

6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

7 Little children, LET NO MAN DECEIVE YOU ( SUCH AS propheticlittledavid) : HE THAT DOETH RIGHTEOUSNESS IS RIGHTEOUS, even as he is righteous.

8 HE THAT COMITTETH SIN IS OF THE DEVIL; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: WHOSOEVER DOETH NOT RIGHTEOUSNESS IS NOT OF GOD, neither he that loveth not his brother.



"I John 1:8-10; 2:1-6:: If we claim to be without sin {LIKE Adam7777}, we deceive ourselves and the **TRUTH IS NOT IN US**! If we **CONFESS OUR SINS**, He is faithful and just and will **FORGIVE US OUR SINS** and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned {Like Adam7777} we make Him out to be a liar and **HIS WORD IS NOT IN US**!! If anybody does sin, we have an Advocate with the Father--Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world. We know that we have come to know Him **IF WE KEEP HIS COMMANDS**! Whoever says, "I know Him," but does not do what He commands is a liar, and the truth is not in that person. But if anyone **OBEYS HIS WORD**, love for God is truly made complete in them. This is how we know we are in Him! Whoever claims to live in Him **MUST** live as Jesus did!! {Adam7777 claims that he is sinless and therefore lived as Jesus did!}"



1 John 1:3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.



1 John 1:5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:

7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word (Jesus Christ Holy Spirit) is not in us.



No darkness in the Lord, He is light, and we desire to fellowship with Him in His light and in His truth, we know we need to receive that Spirit of Truth or there is no truth in us yet, (as it is the Spirit of Truth) walking in darkness, Then when we begin to walk in the same as God is light, fellowshipping then with the Apostles and other righteous men who are spiritual, then the blood of Christ cleans us of all sin, and if we (those who have not even begun to walk in the Spirit) still refuse to say they are doing nothing wrong, the truth is not in them for doing wrong and not repenting to change, (no Spirit of truth in them yet) We, (they who have not fellowshipped yet) confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness, and if we say we have not sinned we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us (we being the ones who are not justified)



Jesus is the forgiveness and payment for our sins, He also is light and the reason for us to escape the darkness, to follow Him is to follow light and not walking in darkness. We know Him when we keep His commandments, and to keep His word, in us is PERFECTED THE LOVE OF GOD, not incomplete or imperfect, because we do not know by the sins we confess that we are in Him, we know by not hating our brother, this is to be in the light. Told again, we lie if we say we love God and we hate our brother.



1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.



1 John 2:9 He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.



1 John 4:20 IF A MAN SAY, I LOVE GOD, AND HATETH HIS BROTHER, HE IS A LIAR: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?�



"While Adam7777 teaches that salvation eternal life are not **FREE GIFTS OF GOD** but are earned by someone who does **GOOD WORKS** and is **SINLESS**???"





Salvation is not through belief in unrighteousness which is what sin is, but through belief in righteousness which is what sin is not..



Romans 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

1 John 5:17 All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.





"Adam7777 and Satan believe that if you sin after you are saved you are then eternally lost or you were never saved at all???"





Saved from satan, likewise to be saved from God was to fully serve satan in sins and iniquity, never departing from iniquity, now the servant of God is saved from satan by departing from his (satan's) iniquity..



2 Timothy 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.



Romans 13:12 The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.



1 John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.





"He who is born again does not **CONTINUALLY** sin, and is not a **HABITUAL** sinner as he was before he came to know Jesus. The born again believer has no urge to sin as he once did, because he was driven by his fallen nature. He who is born again will not continue in, or like their sin. If anyone continually and habitually sins, and does not feel ill about it, it may prove that he has NEVER been spiritually renewed."



SPIRITUALLY RENEWED ACCORDING TO THIS WRITERS "OPINION" AS IT IS NOT SCRIPTURE, THIS IS WHY IT IS AN OPINION, IS TO ONLY SIN WHEN HE SLIPS UP. IF THIS WAS A TRUE WITNESS WE WOULD HAVE COUNTLESS EXAMPLES OF APOSTLE PAUL SLIPPING UP, AND CONFESSING THE SINS TO SHOW US THE WAY TO FOLLOW. BUT APOSTLE PAUL CONFESSED NOTHING OF WHAT HE DID WRONG, BUT WE SEE HE CAST DOWN EVERY IMAGINATION TO OBEDIENCE OF CHRIST AND BROUGHT UNDER HIS BODY UNTO SUBJECTION. CONFIRMED IN THE LAW FULFILLED IN US, NOT MOSTLY OR NEARLY ALL..Romans 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. Romans 2:15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;)



"The closer we grow in our relationship with Jesus Christ, the more we will see our sinfulness. To claim that we are no longer a sinner in any fashion, and no longer sin, shows how far away we are from the Lord and His word. God's saints are not **SINLESS** but they **SIN FAR LESS**. The man who claims any perfection except that perfection which we have in Christ, is a hypocrite. He is not sinless in the flesh, and simply lies if he says that he is. He is exactly like the Pharisees of old, who thought that they were sinless in the flesh also. .Only when we are delivered from "this body of death," will we be delivered from sin completely."



THERE IS NO SCRIPTURE ABOUT GROWING IN OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS OR OF SEEING OUR SINFULNESS MORE. JESUS CHRIST WAS SINLESS IN THE FLESH TO SHOW US HOW TO DO HIS SAME RIGHT WAYS, THE BODY OF DEATH IS DELIVERED FROM, CRUCIFIED IN THE FLESH..



Galatians 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.



Romans 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.



Colossians 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.





"The alleged "sinless perfection" that results from "sanctification" is a monstrous doctrine that plays right into the hands of Satan. Believing this doctrine, one man claimed, �Since I have been sanctified, every impulse or desire to sin has been completely erased from my heart!�8 This statement indicates a totally false sense of spiritual security and immunity to sin. Such a position makes repentance, confession, and the need of forgiveness of sins logically inapplicable, if not impossible. "



IT IS TOLD EXACTLY WHAT TO DO WITH THE AFFECTIONS AND LUSTS..Galatians 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.



SO THE IMPULSES DO NOT GO AWAY THEY ARE DEALT WITH, EXACTLY AS APOSTLE PAUL EXAMPLED, WHICH GIVES US THE NEED FOR THE LORDS FORGIVENESS TO BE SINCERE AS WE DO NOT THROW IT BACK IN HIS FACE, WE DO WHAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO DO WITH THE GIFT HE HAS GIVEN US...



2 Corinthians 10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;



1 Corinthians 9:27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.



Others do this;



Hebrews 6:6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.





"Romans 7:14-20,25: The Apostle Paul says, "We know that the law is spiritual, but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do."



YES WE KNOW THAT HOLY APOSTLE PAUL IS UNSPIRITUAL. OR. WE KNOW THAT HE WAS UNSPIRITUAL, AND WAS THE CHIEF OF SINNERS, AND WE KNOW WE WERE SLAVES TO SIN, NOW WE KNOW WHO WE SERVE AND WE DO WHAT WE LOVE NOW, WE HATED THE THINGS WE DID WHEN CARNAL AS WE ARE NOW ASHAMED OF THEM, READ CAREFULLY FOR YOUR ANSWER DECEIVERS, THAT WAS NOT FIRST WHICH IS SPIRITUAL, BUT THAT WHICH IS NATURAL, AND AFTERWARD THAT WHICH IS SPIRITUAL PROPHETICLITTLEDAVID HAS SHOWN EVERYBODY THAT HE IS CARNAL AND NOT SPIRITUAL AND HAS NO DISCERNMENT..



1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.



Romans 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.



1 Corinthians 15:46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.



Galatians 6:1 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.



Romans 6:20 For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness.

21 What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death.

22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.





The strange teachers gave Romans 7:22� as having to be believers that Paul spoke about, but no scripture in the bible is identifiable with believers delighting to do the law of God and failing miserably, this is the first covenant that is testified about as it surely cant be the first covenant and also the second covenant :)



Romans 7:22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:



Isaiah 58:2 Yet they seek me daily, and delight to know my ways, as a nation that did righteousness, and forsook not the ordinance of their God: they ask of me the ordinances of justice; they take delight in approaching to God.



Then Romans 8 shows the new covenant and new way that the strange teachers seem to be unaware of?



Romans 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.





These strange teachers also gave James 3:8 as example that no man can tame his tongue. But they did not consider that the man without God cant do this, but with God, why cant we ?



James 1:26 If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain.



James 3:8 But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.





So the man of God has not got his tongue as full of deadly poisen, his tongue is bridled by Jesus Christ, like this..



Acts 8:32 The place of the scripture which he read was this, He was led as a sheep to the slaughter; and like a lamb dumb before his shearer, so opened he not his mouth:



1 Peter 2:23 Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously:





These adulterers that cannot cease from sin, that say they are believers, are exhorted to submit themselves to God, to resist the evil they do, because they are lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God..



2 Timothy 3:4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;





Exhorted to cleanse their hands, which means confessing sins to be forgiven, and also, to purify their hearts. Caught up in faults, not having the devil to flee from them because they do not resist him yet, and not being born again of that Holy Spirit of Truth keeping themselves through this and the wicked one then as told, touches them not, but they confess their faults, (not the Spiritual ones who are urged to consider themselves to not be tempted) it makes no truth or sense for the same ones who are exhorted to consider themselves not to be tempted to have to confess their sins also.



James 4:1 From whence come wars and fightings among you? come they not hence, even of your lusts that war in your members?

2 Ye lust, and have not: ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: ye fight and war, yet ye have not, because ye ask not.

3 Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts.

4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.

5 Do ye think that the scripture saith in vain, The spirit that dwelleth in us lusteth to envy?

6 But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.

7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.





Then the same strange teachers quoted James 5 next, that it suggests for them that all believers in Christ are sickly and caught in faults, because they desperately want some scripture to verify the Lords prayer of forgiving our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us. But every scripture shows those in faults, which must mean some are in faults (shows non spiritual) but not everybody..



James 5:14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:

15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.



The ones not in faults if they are succoured (secured) from temptation by the throne of grace..



Hebrews 2:17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.

18 For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.



Christ suffereth not our feet to be moved, he suffereth to be tempted, so he suffereth� our feet to never be moved. God suffereth being tempted to not let our feet be moved. Suffereth being tempted as a trial or test, He resisted overcame and shows us the way...



Psalm 66:9 Which holdeth our soul in life, and suffereth not our feet to be moved.



Revelation 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.



Hebrews 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.

16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.



Galatians 6:1 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.





Because the strange teachers have attempted by Romans 7 and by sometimes showing Paul as the chief of sinners, it can only be right to hear what is testified over and over about Holy Apostle Paul's actual behavior so we know what we must do too, along with what we must be presented as, which double confirms it..



Colossians 1:22 In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:



Philippians 2:15 That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;



Ephesians 5:27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.



2 Peter 3:14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.



1 Timothy 6:11 But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness.

12 Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses.

13 I give thee charge in the sight of God, who quickeneth all things, and before Christ Jesus, who before Pontius Pilate witnessed a good confession;

14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:



Romans 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.



2 Corinthians 5:9 Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him.



2 Corinthians 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.



Colossians 1:28 Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:



Titus 2:12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;



Jude 1:24 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,





Now to see if this is words or it is REAL TRUE ways?



1 Corinthians 9:25 And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible.

26 I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air:



Acts 24:16 And herein do I exercise myself, to have always a conscience void to offence toward God, and toward men.



1 Corinthians 10:32 Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God:

33 Even as I please all men in all things, not seeking mine own profit, but the profit of many, that they may be saved.



Galatians 2:17 But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid.



2 Thessalonians 3:7 For yourselves know how ye ought to follow us: for we behaved not ourselves disorderly among you;





Now warning against those who resist the truth and are reprobate concerning the faith, ( is reprobate because they seek to do perfectionism heresy or because they say they are forgiven and delivered to do all these abominations?)



Jeremiah 7:8 Behold, ye trust in lying words, that cannot profit.

9 Will ye steal, murder, and commit adultery, and swear falsely, and burn incense unto Baal, and walk after other gods whom ye know not;

10 And come and stand before me in this house, which is called by my name, and say, We are delivered to do all these abominations?



2 Timothy 3:8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.

9 But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as their's also was.

10 But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience,



2 Timothy 3:13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.

14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;

16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.





Last confirmation, which is three, is Revelations, how they are found with Him..



1 Peter 2:21 For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:

22 Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth:



Revelation 14:5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.



Revelation 14:4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.



Revelation 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.









"While Adam7777 claims to be sinless and **PERFECT** it is interesting to note that Adam7777 has **SEPARATED** from his wife and therefore has not been a **PERFECT SINLESS HUSBAND**!!"



I thought God is the righteous judge who is prophetic then..



2 Thessalonians 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.



1 Corinthians 7:15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.





Before the Holy Ghost filled in us how can any man be good, and then....



Mark 10:18: Jesus says, "No one is good--except God alone!!"

Acts 11:24 FOR HE WAS A GOOD MAN, AND FULL OF THE HOLY GHOST and of faith: and much people was added unto the Lord.







They without us are not made perfect God having provided some better thing for us..



Hebrews 11:32 And what shall I more say? for the time would fail me to tell of Gedeon, and of Barak, and of Samson, and of Jephthae; of David also, and Samuel, and of the prophets:

33 Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions ( Daniel).

Daniel 6:22 My God hath sent his angel, and hath shut the lions' mouths, that they have not hurt me: forasmuch as before him INNOCENCY WAS FOUND IN ME; and also before thee, O king, have I done no hurt.



"Psalm 38:18: David said, "I **CONFESS MY SIN**; I am troubled by **MY SIN**!"{And yet God says that David is a man after my own heart as per Acts 13:22**} And Jesus says, "I am the Root and Offspring of David!" in Revelation 22:16!!}

Daniel 9:20: Daniel said, "While I was speaking and praying, **CONFESSING MY SIN**!" "



Hebrews 11:39 And these all, (DAVID/ DANIEL) having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise:

40 God having provided SOME BETTER THING FOR US, THAT THEY WITHOUT US SHOULD NOT BE MADE PERFECT.



This is the better more perfect thing even than the son of David, Solomon:



Matthew 12:42 The queen of the south shall rise up in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: for she came from the uttermost parts of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and, behold, a greater than Solomon is here.







"Galatians 2:11-13: Paul was inspired to write, "When Cephas {Peter} came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because **HE STOOD CONDEMNED**. For before certain men came from James, he used to eat with the Gentiles. But when they arrived, he began to draw back and separate himself from the Gentiles because he was afraid of those who belonged to the circumcision group. The other Jews joined him in **HIS HYPOCRISY, so that by their hypocrisy even **BARNABAS WAS LED ASTRAY**!" "



dissimulation...concealment of one's thoughts...Galatians 2:13 And the other Jews dissembled likewise with him; insomuch that Barnabas also was carried away with their dissimulation.



The Lord had not revealed yet the concealment of the cleansing of the Gentiles, how does prophetic say Peter should know what is not told yet? It is testified and confirmed, the circumcision were ASTONISHED, THAT ON THE GENTILES THE GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST WAS POURED ON THEM ALSO PROVING NOBODY KNEW..



Acts 10:17 Now while Peter doubted in himself what this vision which he had seen should mean, behold, the men which were sent from Cornelius had made enquiry for Simon's house, and stood before the gate,

45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.



Acts 11:9 But the voice answered me again from heaven, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.

18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.





WE THAT ARE STRONG AND SPIRITUAL OUGHT AND ARE ABLE TO BEAR THE MISTAKES OF THE CARNAL WEAK..



Romans 15:1 We then that are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak, and not to please ourselves.

Galatians 6:2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.







John 15:12: Jesus says, "**MY COMMAND** is this: Love each other **AS I HAVE LOVED YOU**!!"

Matthew 5:48: Jesus says, "Be perfect **AS YOUR HEAVENLY FATHER IS PERFECT**!!"



"Every born from above saint will try to obey the above four New Covenant commands with all their heart. However, it is obvious that God's saints will fall short of completely obeying the above 4 commands of God!!!"



Love as Jesus loves, is it difficult for propheticdavid..



1 John 3:16 Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.



Acts 20:24 But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God.



Acts 21:13 Then Paul answered, What mean ye to weep and to break mine heart? for I am ready not to be bound only, but also to die at Jerusalem for the name of the Lord Jesus.



To do more than sinners propheticdavid cannot do?



Luke 6:32 For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them.



Luke 6:34 And if ye lend to them of whom ye hope to receive, what thank have ye? for sinners also lend to sinners, to receive as much again.



Matthew 5:47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?



Luke 6:35 But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.



satan says before we get to Heaven as he has no place in Heaven any more, because satan flees from us as the kingdom of Heaven is within us NOW..



Revelation 12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.



Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

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**THE SATANIC TEACHING OF SINLESS PERFECTION BEFORE WE GET TO HEAVEN**



2 Timothy 3:15,16: 4:1,2: You have known the **HOLY SCRIPTURES**, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. **ALL SCRIPTURE IS GOD-BREATHED** and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of His appearing and His kingdom, I give you this charge: **PREACH THE WORD**!! {**WHICH IS THE ENTIRE NEW COVENANT AND NEW TESTAMENT**!!} be prepared in season and out of season, correct. rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction. For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn from the truth and turn aside to myths. {Like **SINLESS PERFECTION THE MOMENT WE ARE SAVED**}



Matthew 18:10-14: Jesus said, �Two men went up to the temple to **PRAY**, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee {Like Adam7777} stood up and **PRAYED** about himself: 'God, I thank you that I am not like other men�robbers, evildoers, adulterers�or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.' But the tax collector stood at a distance, He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, '**GOD, HAVE MERCY ON ME, A SINNER**'!!.'"I tell you that this man rather than the other, went home justified before God. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted!�



Matthew 4:4: Jesus says, "Man does not live on bread alone, but on **EVERY WORD FROM THE MOUTH OF GOD**!"



I John 1:6: Whoever claims to live in Him **MUST** LIVE AS JESUS DID**!!



John 15:12: Jesus says, "**MY COMMAND** is this: Love each other **AS I HAVE LOVED YOU**!!"



Matthew 5:48: Jesus says, "Be perfect **AS YOUR HEAVENLY FATHER IS PERFECT**!!"



Every born from above saint will try to obey the above four New Covenant commands with all their heart. However, it is obvious that God's saints will fall short of completely obeying the above 4 commands of God!!!



Mark 10:18: Jesus says, "No one is good--except God alone!!"



While Adam7777 claims to be sinless and **PERFECT** it is interesting to note that Adam7777 has **SEPARATED** from his wife and therefore has not been a **PERFECT SINLESS HUSBAND**!! For God's word states in Matthew 19:5,6: Jesus says, "A man shall leave his father and mother and be united to his wife and they shall become one flesh, they are no longer two, but one flash. Therefore what God has joined together let no man {Like Adam7777} separate!!"



And so if Adam7777's separated wife is a Christian they are both living continually in sin for we are commanded to forgive our brother or sister or wife in Christ not 7 times but 70 times 7 times! And if Adam7777 married an unsaved woman it is also terrible sin in the NT!!



Romans 7:14-20,25: The Apostle Paul says, "We know that the law is spiritual, but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do --**THIS I KEEP ON DOING**. Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it!... So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God's law, but in my sinful nature a slave to the law of sin."



He who is born again does not **CONTINUALLY** sin, and is not a **HABITUAL** sinner as he was before he came to know Jesus. The born again believer has no urge to sin as he once did, because he was driven only by his fallen nature. He who is born again will not continue in, or like their sin. If anyone continually and habitually sins, and does not feel ill about it, it may prove that he has **NEVER** been spiritually renewed.



The closer we grow in our relationship with Jesus Christ, the more we will see our sinfulness. To claim that we are no longer a sinner in any fashion, and no longer sin, shows how far away we are from the Lord and His word. God's saints are not good all the time like God and are not **SINLESS** but they **SIN FAR LESS**. The man who claims any perfection except that perfection which we have in Christ, is a hypocrite. He is not sinless in the flesh, and simply lies if he says that he is. He is exactly like the Pharisees of old, who thought that they were sinless in the flesh also. Only when we are delivered from "this body of death," will we be delivered from sin completely.



The alleged "sinless perfection" that results from "sanctification" is a monstrous doctrine that plays right into the hands of Satan. Believing this doctrine, one man claimed, �Since I have been sanctified, every impulse or desire to sin has been completely erased from my heart!� This statement indicates a totally false sense of spiritual security and immunity to sin. Such a position makes repentance, confession, and the need of forgiveness of sins logically inapplicable, if not impossible.



I John 1:3-10: We proclaim to you what we have seen and heard, so that you may have fellowship with us... We write this to make **OUR JOY COMPLETE**. This is the message we have heard **FROM HIM** and declare to you: If we claim to be without sin {Like Adam7777}, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. **IF WE CONFESS OUR SINS**, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned {Like Adam7777} we make Him out to be a liar and **HIS WORD IS NOT IN US**!



Luke 11:1-4: The **DISCIPLES** asked Jesus, "Lord teach as to pray." Jesus replied **TO HIS DISCIPLES**, "When you pray, say: '**FATHER**, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come. Give us each day our **DAILY** bread. **FORGIVE US OUR SINS**, for we also forgive everyone who sins against us!'"



I Corinthians 9:21; Paul says, "I am under **CHRIST'S LAW**!!"



Galatians 6:1-3: Is someone is caught in a sin, you who live by the Spirit should restore him gently... Carry each others burdens, and in this way you fulfill the **LAW OF CHRIST**!!



Matthew 4:4: Jesus says, "Man shall live by **EVERY WORD** that comes from the mouth of God!"



James 5:16: **CONFESS YOUR SINS** to each other and pray for each other!!



Psalm 38:18: David said, "I **CONFESS MY SIN**; I am troubled by **MY SIN**!"{And yet God says that David is a man after my own heart as per Acts 13:22**} And Jesus says, "I am the Root and Offspring of David!" in Revelation 22:16!!}



Daniel 9:20: Daniel said, "While I was speaking and praying, **CONFESSING MY SIN**!"



Adam7777 claimed that the Apostle Peter never sinned after the coming of the Holy Spirit?? However:



Galatians 2:11-13: Paul was inspired to write, "When Cephas {Peter} came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because **HE STOOD CONDEMNED**. For before certain men came from James, he used to eat with the Gentiles. But when they arrived, he began to draw back and separate himself from the Gentiles because he was afraid of those who belonged to the circumcision group. The other Jews joined him in **HIS HYPOCRISY, so that by their hypocrisy even **BARNABAS WAS LED ASTRAY**!"



Revelation 3:19: Jesus says, "Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline, so be earnest and **REPENT**!!" {**OF YOUR SINS**!!}



Hebrews 12:5-11: Do not make light of the Lord's discipline, and do not lose heart when He rebukes you, because the Lord disciplines those He loves, and He chastens **EVERYONE** HE ACCEPTS AS A SON**!!! Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as His children. For what children are not disciplined by their father {FOR THEIR SINS**}? If you are not disciplined--and everyone undergoes discipline--**THEN YOU ARE NOT LEGITIMATE**, not true sons and daughters at all. Moreover, we have all had human fathers who disciplined us{FOR OUR SINS!} and we respected them for it. How much more should we submit to the Father of spirits and live! They disciplined us for a little while as they thought best; but God disciplines us for our good, in order that we may share in His holiness. No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it!



Galatians 6:1: Brothers, if someone is caught in a sin, you who are spiritual should restore him gently. But watch yourself, or you may also be tempted. Carry each others burdens, and in this way you fulfill the law of Christ!!



Since Adam7777 claims that he **NO LONGER SINNED** the moment he was saved; he completely disagrees with the above passages from the inspired Words of God. And since he believes he was completely perfect when he was saved there is no reason for him to want **ETERNAL HEAVENLY REWARDS** for faithful and loving service.



**HOWEVER, GOD'S WORD COMPLETELY DISAGREES WITH HIM**!!



Matthew 16:27: Jesus says, "For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father's glory with His angels and **THEN** He will **REWARD** each person according to what they have done!"



Matthew 5:11,12: Jesus says, �Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your **REWARD** **IN HEAVEN**!�



I Corinthians 9:24-27: Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize. Everyone who competes in the games goes in to strict training. They do it to get a **CROWN** that will not last; but we do it to get a **CROWN THAT WILL LAST FOREVER**! Therefore I do not run like a man running aimlessly; I do not fight like a man beating the air. No, I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize!



Luke 11:33,34: Jesus says, "Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide purses for yourselves that will not wear out, a **TREASURE** IN HEAVEN** that will never fail, where no thief comes near and no moth destroys. For where your **TREASURE** is, there your **HEART** will be also!"



2 Corinthians 5:9,10: We make it our goal to please Him... for we must all appear before the Judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive what is due him for the things done while in the body, whether good or ***BAD***.



Luke 18:19 and Mark 10:18; Jesus says, "No on is good except God alone!" Those who are born from above do many good works that will be **ETERNALLY REWARDED** but only God is good **ALL THE TIME**. The sins a believer does will also be deducted from their **ETERNAL REWARDS** especially if the believer does not repent and ask forgiveness for some of his sins that he knows are sins.



There are about 400 commandments in the New Covenant and a young believer will not know a lot of these 400 NT commands and James 4:17 says: If anyone knows the good they ought to do and doesn't do it, it is sin for them!!



There are some believers like the thief on the cross who will not have time to do many good works and may not receive any **ETERNAL REWARDS** even though they will be saved!



1 Corinthians 3:13-15: His work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each man's work. If what he has built survives, he will receive his **REWARD**. If it is burned up he will suffer loss; **HE HIMSELF WILL BE SAVED**, but only as one escaping through the flames.



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Posted : 27 Dec, 2018 08:07 PM

Hi Dave, i never apologise as that is what the world would have believers do, instead i would ask to be forgiven, which is what Messiah would have me to do.

Now are you also like the two children churning up the river, or are you different.

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Posted : 30 Dec, 2018 06:24 PM

George, you might want to review your past posts.



It seems you’re ok with calling names, who is “profit” as just one example amoung many and you regularly rag on people who disagree. Then you run crying to the playground monitor because somebody did the same to you.



This is hypocritical, George.



I think you’re throwing a fit because I’ve called you out. You’re being childish.

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Posted : 31 Dec, 2018 12:04 PM

So shall I expect to see a public request sent from you to prophetic asking forgiveness? I say public because your derogatory name calling was public on this forum and you also sent out a public topic request bidding others to issue complaints to the monitor against this member.



I guess you might as well ask readers for forgiveness because you believe it’s ok for you to violate “your rules” (the rules stated in your topic post here), but you prohibit others doing the same.



That will keep you busy for now until I review your posts for other examples of infringements against your own rules. I’m just trying to help you stay true to yourself



George, if you’re going to assert yourself as a phantom monitor here then at least set the example for the rest of us and by keeping your own rules.



I’m not asking you to do something I haven’t already done. I confessed my wrong attitude to the young lady on my yoga leggings post. I confessed to prophetic and I confessed to montanagrace.

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