Thread: 🎶🎶 & another one gone another one gone another another fake miracle bites the dust 🎶🎶 🚫🧙♂️🪄 2 peter 1:16 For we did not follow cunningly devised fables
🎶🎶 & another one gone another one gone another another fake miracle bites the dust 🎶🎶 🚫🧙♂️🪄 2 peter 1:16 For we did not follow cunningly devised fables
Posted : 28 Mar, 2025 04:22 AM
MORRIS, Ind. (AP) — A laboratory analysis turned up nothing miraculous about red marks found on a Communion wafer at a Catholic church in Indiana.
The discovery at St. Anthony of Padua Catholic Church in Morris was unusual enough for a formal inspection, the Archdiocese of Indianapolis said.
But a biochemical analysis revealed only “fungus and three different species of bacteria, all of which are commonly found on human hands,” the archdiocese said Monday, adding that no blood was found.
The Catholic faith teaches that wine and a bread wafer signify the body and blood of Jesus Christ. Typically, they’re consecrated by a priest at Mass.
The host, or bread, with red marks had fallen out of a Mass kit at St. Anthony Church.
“Throughout the history of the Catholic Church, there have been well-documented miracles and apparitions, and each has been thoroughly and carefully reviewed,” the archdiocese said
🎶🎶 & another one gone another one gone another another fake miracle bites the dust 🎶🎶 🚫🧙♂️🪄 2 peter 1:16 For we did not follow cunningly devised fables
Posted : 5 Apr, 2025 11:39 AM
Having just read at least the first part of miracles thread i see you were given that example, and one of raised from the dead before the one in Africa was even mentioned and you dismissed it. So your lack willingness to believe in the cases Milky gave or anyone else has nothing to do with Milkys willingness to believe that miracle in Africa as you didnt know about it when dismissing his accounts.
As far as the one in Africa is concerned im sure it wouldnt matter if it was at home, a church, or anywhere, as shown by the fact that you dismissed the other account given of raised from the dead
Your example isn’t the first time someone “rose from the dead” after being pronounced👉clinically dead”👈
When those of you so fooled by charismania’s “miracles” can produce someone who was dead for at least 4 days like Lazarus then maybe people will believe you’ve really seen a miracle ‼️‼️
kinda confirms that. Those who wont believe often just wont believe unless see themselves like Thomas.
As far as the one in Africa is concerned lets face facts. We can neither prove it was Nor prove it wasnt so will leave it up to God to judge finally on that but the fact that you seem to be dismissing all miracles before even knowing what they, are speaks to your objectivity when looking at them. Effectively looking for a reason not to believe them.
As for me, there is a range. The ones in my family i know were so 100% believe. Others fall into a range and i chose to believe or not based on the individual case. If the evidence is strong i will chose to believe but realise there is a possibility im wrong. If its somewhat weaker i might chose not to believe it but also realise the possibility that im wrong. At the end of the day though i do believe in miracles, but as far as this discussion is concerned i kinda agree with Milky that there is not much point in continuing.
Just a side point on the African one. If i was going to fake it i wouldnt chose a car accident, i definatly wouldnt chose a public road and most definatly not state the day and time because you cant control who else is in that road at that time or the next few hours while the scene is being dealt with. Any member of the public from anywhere could potentially be there or passing thorough there and you wont know it. So when the story comes out it would be quickly quashed because those who were actuslly there at the time would say it never happened. Plus you would have to know which police, ambulance staff, doctors, etc if any were rostered on in that area at that time to be able to bribe them. Otherwise those who actuslly were rostered on or any colleague who knew the roster could come forward and say its not the case. That would go for the mortician and all present in the room where it supposedly happened too. Its not just them but also the people who knew where they were at the time. The amount of people you would have to get on board is huge, alot of whom you dont even know who they are so cant contact.
So if it is to be believed then the accident had to happen and no one is going to premeditate causimg an accident that needs to be bad enough for the passing public to believe could cause death because it actually could cause your death or leave you with life long injuries. No one is going to risk that for a fake story. That is one of the apologetic we use for the bible, no one would die for something they know is fake. The man would not deliberately risk death and leave his wife and family , if any, with no husband or provider knowing its for a fake story.
Which leaves the accident was real and decided afterwards to fake death and coming back to life. That would mean the injuries were not severe enough for him to die so he would have been taken to hospital and would have to bribe the doctor, nurses, orderlies who "removed the body" plus any other patient or visitor in the room while he was bribing them as well as the mortician and all those present in the place where the miracle supposedly happened, and anyone who may have seen him in the 3 days in between.
Plus he would need check ups/treatment during those days for the injuries he incurred so people would have seen doctors etc going to wherever he was taken,, to administer that treatment. Bearing in mind that for the people who saw the crash and those proffesionals who attended at the scene to believe then those injuries would need to be serious.
So for me, though cant prove it was or wasnt a miracle i will chose to believe coz if going to fake someone is more likely to chose heart attack or stroke or something at home or in a place where they can control both who the witneeses are and how many. Even then it would be difficult coz you go to one doctor/mortician to bribe and if they are not corrupt then your game is up and your story can be discredited before it even supposedly happened, and is a very negative view of humanity in general and medical and potencially other proffesionals to think that there are so many corrupt that every one of those contacted would be corrupt enough to take a bribe without a single one saying no and in doing so exposing there scheme.
Like i said. I agree with Milky that there is not much point in continueing so will leave it there.
🎶🎶 & another one gone another one gone another another fake miracle bites the dust 🎶🎶 🚫🧙♂️🪄 2 peter 1:16 For we did not follow cunningly devised fables
Posted : 5 Apr, 2025 12:17 PM
I thought you said you were skeptical⁉️⁉️
I think the word that best suits you is gullible.
Not only that but your facts are wrong.
I have long followed false teacher and false miracle worker Reinhard Bonnke. Have you⁉️⁉️ Do you even know his history⁉️⁉️
Seems you would rather take the easy path like Milky. Just latch on to the first report of a miracle that suits your itching ears and believe it without bothering to check the facts‼️‼️ That’s called gullibility my friend.
Then you wanna take your ball and go home because either you rely on false miracles or you must refer to nature healing as biblical miracles In order to justify your false faith in something that doesn’t exist.
I feel sorry that you would rather remain deceived
