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Calvinism, Arminianism, and the Biblical Balance - PART 2 - Tracing the TULIP in the Early Church Fathers.
Posted : 29 Sep, 2013 04:29 PM
This series is a result of my commitment to respond to a thread that was started by Mcubed. The original thread can be found here: http://www.christiandatingforfree.com/cdff/CDFF_generic/forum/forum_details.php?topic_id=18342&forum_sub_cat_id=14
For you M., May it please the Lord to grant you understanding.
These quotes are illustrative of the Early Father's teachings on the doctrines of grace (A.K.A. Calvinism/TULIP). Some of the ideas are more fully developed and expressed while some are more of an embryonic/seed form. THIS IS BUT A SMALL SAMPLING.
TOTAL DEPRAVITY
Ignatius (A.D. 110): �They that are carnal cannot do the things that are spiritual�Nor can the unbelievers do the things of belief.�
Justin Martyr (A.D. 150): �Mankind by Adam fell under death, and the deception of the serpent; we are born sinners�No good thing dwells in us�For neither by nature, nor by human understanding is it possible for me to acquire the knowledge of things so great and so divine, but by the energy of the Divine Spirit�Of ourselves it is impossible to enter the kingdom of God�He has convicted us of the impossibility of our nature to obtain life�Free will has destroyed us; we who were free are become slaves and for our sin are sold�Being pressed down by our sins, we cannot move upward toward God; we are like birds who have wings, but are unable to fly.�
Clement Of Alexandria (A.D. 190): �The soul cannot rise nor fly, nor be lifted up above the things that are on high, without special grace.�
Origen: �Our free will�or human nature is not sufficient to seek God in any manner.�
Eusebius (A.D. 330): �The liberty of our will in choosing things that are good is destroyed.�
Augustine (A.D. 370): �If, therefore, they are servants of sin (), why do they boast of free will?�O, man! Learn from the precept what you ought to do; learn from correction, that it is your own fault you have not the power�Let human effort, which perished by Adam, here be silent, and let the grace of God reign by Jesus Christ�What God promises, we ourselves do not through free will of human nature, but He Himself does by grace within us�Men labor to find in our own will something that is our own, and not God�s; how can they find it, I know not.�
UNCONDITIONAL ELECTION
Clement Of Rome (A.D. 69): �Let us therefore approach Him in holiness of soul, lifting up pure and undefiled hands unto Him, with love towards our gentle and compassionate Father because He made us an elect portion unto Himself�Seeing then that we are the special elect portion of a Holy God, let us do all things that pertain unto holiness�There was given a declaration of blessedness upon them that have been elected by God through Jesus Christ our Lord�Jesus Christ is the hope of the elect��
Clement of Rome - First Epistle to the Corinthians
Chapter XXXII.�We are justified not by our own works, but by faith.
Whosoever will candidly consider each particular, will recognise the greatness of the gifts which were given by him.129 For from him130 have sprung the priests and all the Levites who minister at the altar of God. From him also [was descended] our Lord Jesus Christ according to the flesh.131 From him [arose] kings, princes, and rulers of the race of Judah. Nor are his other tribes in small glory, inasmuch as God had promised, �Thy seed shall be as the stars of heaven.�132 All these, therefore, were highly honoured, and made great, not for their own sake, or for their own works, or for the righteousness which they wrought, but through the operation of His will. And we, too, being called by His will in Christ Jesus, are not justified by ourselves, nor by our own wisdom, or understanding, or godliness, or works which we have wrought in holiness of heart; but by that faith through which, from the beginning, Almighty God has justified all men; to whom be glory for ever and ever.
Amen.
Barnabas (A.D. 70): �We are elected to hope, committed by God unto faith, appointed to salvation.�
Ignatius: �To the predestined ones before all ages, that is, before the world began, united and elect in a true passion, by the eternal will of the Father��
Ignatius: "The history of Isaac, too, is not without a symbolical character. For in the Epistle tothe Romans, the apostle declares: �Moreover, when Rebecca had conceived by one, even by our father Isaac,� she received answer from the Word, �that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of Him that calleth, it was said unto her, Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people are in thy body; and the one people shall overcome the other, and the elder shall serve the younger.�From which it is evident, that not only [were there] prophecies of the patriarchs, but also that the children broughtforth by Rebecca were a prediction of the two nations; and that the one should be indeed
the greater, but the other the less; that the one also should be under bondage, but the other free; but [that both should be] of one and the same father. Our God, one and the same, is also their God, who knows hidden things, who knoweth all things before they can come to pass; and for this reason has He said, �Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.�
Justin Martyr: �In all these discourses I have brought all my proofs out of your own holy and prophetic writings, hoping that some of you may be found of the elect number which through the grace that comes from the Lord of Sabaoth, is left or reserved [set apart] for everlasting salvation.�
Mathetes (A.D. 130) - Epistle to Diognetus Chapter XL
Then the fear of the law is chanted,and the grace of the prophets is known, and the faith of the gospels is established, and the tradition of the Apostles is preserved, and the grace of the Church exults; which grace if you grieve not, you shall know those things which the Word teaches, by whom He wills, and when He pleases. For whatever things we are moved to utter by the will of the Word commanding
us, we communicate to you with pains, and from a love of the things that have
been revealed to us.
Irenaeus (A.D. 198): �God hath completed the number which He before determined with Himself, all those who are written, or ordained unto eternal life�Being predestined indeed according to the love of the Father that we would belong to Him forever.�
Clement Of Alexandria (A.D. 190): �Through faith the elect of God are saved. The generation of those who seek God is the elect nation, not [an earthly] place, but the congregation of the elect, which I call the Church�If every person had known the truth, they would all have leaped into the way, and there would have been no election�You are those who are chosen from among men and as those who are predestined from among men, and in His own time called, faithful, and elect, those who before the foundation of the world are known intimately by God unto faith; that is, are appointed by Him to faith, grow beyond babyhood.�
Cyprian (A.D. 250): �This is therefore the predestination which we faithfully and humbly preach.�
John Chrysostom (c. 347-407), Homily on Ephesians, 1.1.4, 5, 6. �What he means [with 'he hath chosen us in him'] is this: The one through whom he has blessed us is the one through whom he has elected us� Christ chose us to have faith in him before we came into being, indeed even before the world was founded. The word �foundation� was well chosen, to indicate that it was laid down from some great height. For great and ineffable is the height of God, not in a particular place but rather in his remoteness [i.e. transcendence] from nature. So great is the distance between creature and Creator.�
��You have been elected�, he says, �in order to be holy and unblemished before his face�� He himself has made us saints, but we are called to remain saints. A saint is one who lives in faith, is unblemished and leads a blameless life.�
��to become virtuous and to believe and to advance, this too was the work of the One who called us��
�So that our love for him may become more fervent, he desires nothing from us except our salvation. He does not need our service or anything else but does everything for this end. One who openly expresses praise and wonder at God�s grace will be more eager and zealous.�
Jerome (c. 347-420), Epistle to the Ephesians, 1.1.4. �It is asked how anyone can be saintly and unblemished in God�s sight� We must reply [that] Paul does not say he chose us before the foundation of the world on account of our being saintly and unblemished. He chose us that we might become saintly and unblemished, that is, that we who were not formerly saintly and unblemished should subsequently be so� So understood it provides a counter-argument to one who says that souls were elected before the world came to be because of their sanctity and freedom from any sinful vice.�
Ambrose Of Milan (A.D. 380): �In predestination the Church of God has always existed.�
Augustine (A.D. 380): �Here certainly, there is no place for the vain argument of those who defend the foreknowledge of God against the grace of God, and accordingly maintain that we were elected before the foundation of the world because God foreknew that we would be good, not that He Himself would make us good. This is not the language of Him who said, �You did not choose Me, but I chose you� ().�
Marius Victorinus (4th century), Against the Arians, I.2. �God in his love has predestined us to adoption through Christ. How could God possibly have Christ for his Son by adoption?� We speak of ourselves as heirs of God the Father and heirs through Christ, being sons through adoption. Christ is his Son, through whom it is brought about that we become sons and fellow heirs in Christ.�
- Fulgentius of Ruspe (c. 465-533), On the Truth of Predestination, 3.6. �The eternal firmness and firm eternity of God�s predestinating will consist not only in the ordaining of works. God also knows in advance the number of the elect. No one of that number may lose his eternal grace, nor may any outside that total attain the gift of eternal salvation. For God, who knows all things before they come to pass, is not confused about the number of the predestined, any more than he doubts the effectiveness of the works he has ordained.�
LIMITED ATONEMENT
Barnabas (A.D. 70): �[Christ speaking] I see that I shall thus offer My flesh for the sins of the new people.�
Justin Martyr (A.D. 150): �He endured the sufferings for those men whose souls are [actually] purified from all iniquity�As Jacob served Laban for the cattle that were spotted, and of carious forms, so Christ served even to the cross for men of every kind, of many and various shapes, procuring them by His blood and the mystery of the cross.�
Irenaeus (A.D. 180): �He came to save all, all, I say, who through Him are born again unto God, infants, and little ones, and children, and young men, and old men�Jesus is the Savior of them that believe; but the Lord of them that believe not. Wherefore, Christ is introduced in the gospel weary�promising to give His life a ransom, in the room of, many.�
Tertullian (A.D. 200): �Christ died for the salvation of His people�for the church.�
Cyprian (A.D. 250): �All the sheep which Christ hath sought up by His blood and sufferings are saved�Whosoever shall be found in the blood, and with the mark of Christ shall only escape�He redeemed the believers with the price of His own blood�Let him be afraid to die who is not reckoned to have any part in the cross and sufferings of Christ.�
Lactantius (A.D. 320): �He was to suffer and be slain for the salvation of many people�who having suffered death for us, hath made us heirs of the everlasting kingdom, having abdicated and disinherited the people of the Jews�He stretched out His hands in the passion and measured the world, that He might at the very time show that a large people, gathered out of all languages and tribes, should come under His wings, and receive the most great and sublime sign.�
Eusebius (A.D. 330): �To what �us� does he refer, unless to them that beleive in Him? For to them that do not believe in Him, He is the author of their fire and burning. The cause of Christ�s coming is the redemption of those that were to be saved by Him.�
Julius (A.D. 350): �The Son of God, by the pouring out of His precious blood, redeemed His set apart ones; they are delivered by the blood of Christ.�
Hilarion (A.D. 363): �He shall remain in the sight of God forever, having already taken all whom He hath redeemed to be kings of heaven, and co-heirs of eternity, delivering them as the kingdom of God to the Father.�
Ambrose (A.D. 380): �Before the foundation of the world, it was God�s will that Christ should suffer for our salvation�Can He d.a.m.n thee, whom He hath redeemed from death, for whom He offered Himself, whose life He knows is the reward of His own death?�
Pacian (A.D. 380): �Much more, He will not allow him that is redeemed to be destroyed, nor will He cast away those whom He has redeemed with a great price.�
Epiphanius (A.D. 390): �If you are redeemed�If therefore ye are bought with blood, thou are not the number of them who were bought with blood, O Manes, because thou deniest the blood�He gave His life for His own sheep.�
Jerome (A.D. 390): �Christ is sacrificed for the salvation of believers�Not all are redeemed, for not all shall be saved, but the remnant�All those who are redeemed and delivered by Thy blood return to Zion, which Thou hast prepared for Thyself by Thine own blood�Christ came to redeem Zion with His blood. But lest we should think that all are Zion or every one is Zion is truly redeemed of the Lord, who are redeemed by the blood of Christ form the Church�He did not give His life for every man, but for many, that is, for those who would believe.�
IRRESISTBLE GRACE
Barnabas (A.D. 70): �God gives repentance to us, introducing us into the incorruptible temple.�
Ignatius: �Pray for them, if so by they may repent, which is very difficult; but Jesus Christ, our true life, has the power of this.�
Justin Martyr (A.D. 150): �Having sometime before convinced us of the impossibility of our nature to obtain life, hath now shown us the Savior, who is able to save them which otherwise were impossible to be saved�Free will has destroyed us; we are sold into sin.�
Irenaeus (A.D. 180): �Not of ourselves, but of God, is the blessing of our salvation�Man, who was before led captive, is taken out of the power of the possessor, according to the mercy of God the Father, and restoring it, gives salvation to it by the Word; that is, by Christ; that many may experimentally learn that not of himself, but by the gift of God, he receives immortality.�
Tertullian (A.D. 200): �Do you think, O men, that we should ever have been able to have understood these things in the Scriptures unless by the will of Him that wills all things, we had received grace to understand them?�But by this it is plain, that [faith] is not given to thee by God, because thou dost not ascribe it to Him alone.�
Cyprian (A.D. 250): �Whatsoever is grateful is to be ascribed not to man�s power, but to God�s gift. It is God�s, I say, all is God�s that we can do. Yea, that in nothing must we glory, since nothing is ours.�
Arnobius (A.D. 303): �You place the salvation of your souls in yourselves, and trust that you may be made gods by your inward endeavor, yet it is not our own power to reach things above.�
Lactantius (A.D. 320): �The vistory lies in the will of God, not in thine own. To overcome is not in our power.�
Athanasius (A.D. 350): �To believe is not ours, or in our power, but the Spirit�s who is in us, and abides in us.�
Jerome (A.D. 390): �This is the chief righteousness of man, to reckon that whatsoever power he can have, is not his own, but the Lord�s who gives it�See how great is the help of God, and how frail the condition of man that we cannot by any means fulfill this, that we repent, unless the Lord first convert us�When [Jesus] says, �No man can come to Me,� He breaks the proud liberty of free will; for man can desire nothing, and in vain he endeavors�Where is the proud boasting of free will?�We pray in vain if it is in our own will. Why should men pray for that from the Lord which they have in the power of their own free will?�
Augustine (A.D. 370): �Faith itself is to be attributed to God�Faith is made a gift. These men, however, attribute faith to free will, so grace is rendered to faith not as a gratuitous gift, but as a debt�They must cease from saying this.�
PERSEVERANCE OF THE SAINTS
Clement Of Rome (A.D. 69): �It is the will of God that all whom He loves should partake of repentance, and so not perish with the unbelieving and impenitent. He has established it by His almighty will. But if any of those whom God wills should partake of the grace of repentance, should afterwards perish, where is His almighty will? And how is this matter settled and established by such a will of His?�
Clement Of Alexandria (A.D. 190): �Such a soul [of a Christian] shall never at any time be separated from God�Faith, I say, is something divine, which cannot be pulled asunder by any other worldly friendship, nor be dissolved by present fear.�
Tertullian: �God forbid that we should believe that the soul of any saint should be drawn out by the devil�For what is of God is never extinguished.�
Augustine: �Of these believers no one perishes, because they were all elected. And they were elected because they were called according to the purpose�the purpose, however, not their own, but God�s�Obedience then is God�s gift�To this, indeed, we are not able to deny, that perseverance in good, progressing even to the end, is also a great gift of God.�
compiled from my own notes and various internet sources.
Calvinism, Arminianism, and the Biblical Balance - PART 2 - Tracing the TULIP in the Early Church Fathers.
Posted : 29 Sep, 2013 05:51 PM
I was an adopted child, for reals... I have twin sister too and we both were adopted by our parents into a catholic family. why we were chosen by this particular couple on that day to be a part of their growing family we will never know... never even thought to ask Mom and Dad why us? My eldest sister and older brother were also adopted, and after us 4 came 4 more kids born of my parents who are my brothers and sisters. There have been times in our life that me and sissy had been curious in thought but never had any real desire to know our paternal parent. We were treated no differently and same as natural born family, the same in all respects. Loved nourished, corrected... and my folks did not spare the rod if ya get me! But never in my life did I ever feel that I was short changed, or treated differently than my younger siblings just because I was not naturally born from our parents and neither did any of them ever consider us as anything but their own family all the way to the end of our beloved parents lives not so long ago. Every July 3rd is mine and my twins chosen day that our folks celebrated as nearly the same as our birthday, we still call each other in remembrance on that special day and our siblings do too.
Calvinism, Arminianism, and the Biblical Balance - PART 2 - Tracing the TULIP in the Early Church Fathers.
Posted : 29 Sep, 2013 06:52 PM
:waving:...Me too...:glow:..for reals...what a Blessing to be adopted into a wonderful human family...my elder adoptive brother was returned the center because...the people wanted a girl instead ???...He is a Gift from GOD and yet doesn't know that or Him...I was Chosen out of a group of girls...God is so very GOOD...Yahshua was adopted too!!!...and we are Blessed to be apart of His Adoptive family!!!...:bouncy:...X <>< O
Calvinism, Arminianism, and the Biblical Balance - PART 2 - Tracing the TULIP in the Early Church Fathers.
Posted : 29 Sep, 2013 07:27 PM
Paul was already warning the young church of error and confusion and vain disputes entering into the believers, I'll stick with those who heard Jesus speak for themselves. That's about as early as I need to go. Whatever happened in the early church after the death of the apostles, the fruit of it was the church that brought the dark ages and persecution against the saints.
Calvinism, Arminianism, and the Biblical Balance - PART 2 - Tracing the TULIP in the Early Church Fathers.
Posted : 29 Sep, 2013 08:27 PM
This series is a result of my commitment to respond to a thread that was started by Mcubed.
For you M., May it please the Lord to grant you understanding.
Come at me with Scriptures not early church fathers. They did good but had A LOT OF BAD THEOLOGY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Here is more about the early church fathers.
Ignatius Bishop of Antioch (98-117A.D.) � Epistle to the Magnesians
For if we are still practicing Judaism, we admit that we have not received God�s favor�it is wrong to talk about Jesus Christ and live like Jews. For Christianity did not believe in Judaism, but Judaism in Christianity.
"Epistle of Barnabas" Chapter 4vs 6-7 (between 130A.D. and 138 A.D.)
Take heed to yourselves and be not like some piling up you sins and saying that the covenant is theirs as well as ours. It is ours, but they lost it completely just after Moses received it.
Justin Martyr - Dialogue with Trypho (Between 138A.D. and 161 A.D.)
We too, would observe your circumcision of the flesh, your Sabbath days, and in a word, all you festivals, if we were not aware of the reason why they were imposed upon you, namely, because of your sins and the hardness of heart.
The custom of circumcising the flesh, handed down from Abraham, was given to you as a distinguishing mark, to set you off from other nations and from us Christians. The purpose of this was that you and only you might suffer the afflictions that are now justly yours; that only your land be desolated, and you cities ruined by fire, that the fruits of you land be eaten by strangers before your very eyes; that not one of you be permitted to enter your city of Jerusalem. Your circumcision of the flesh is the only mark by which you can certainly be distinguished from other men�as I stated before it was by reason of your sins and the sins of your fathers that, among other precepts, God imposed upon you the observence of the sabbath as a mark.
Origen of Alexandria (185-254 A.D.) � A ecclesiastical writer and teacher who contributed to the early formation of Christian doctrines.
We may thus assert in utter confidence that the Jews will not return to their earlier situation, for they have committed the most abominable of crimes, in forming this conspiracy against the Savior of the human race�hence the city where Jesus suffered was necessarily destroyed, the Jewish nation was driven from its country, and another people was called by God to the blessed election.
John Chrysostom (344-407 A.D.) � One of the "greatest" of church fathers; known as "The Golden Mouthed." A missionary preacher famous for his sermons and addresses.
The synagogue is worse than a brothel�it is the den of scoundrels and the repair of wild beasts�the temple of demons devoted to idolatrous cults�the refuge of brigands and dabauchees, and the cavern of devils. It is a criminal assembly of Jews�a place of meeting for the assassins of Christ� a house worse than a drinking shop�a den of thieves, a house of ill fame, a dwelling of iniquity, the refuge of devils, a gulf and a abyss of perdition."�"I would say the same things about their souls� As for me, I hate the synagogue�I hate the Jews for the same reason.
From "The Roots of Christian Anti-Semitism" by Malcolm Hay
St. Augustine (c. 354-430 A.D.), Confessions, 12.14
How hateful to me are the enemies of your Scripture! How I wish that you would slay them (the Jews) with your two-edged sword, so that there should be none to oppose your word! Gladly would I have them die to themselves and live to you!
Peter the Venerable � known as "the meekest of men, a model of Christian charity"
Yes, you Jews. I say, do I address you; you, who till this very day, deny the Son of God. How long, poor wretches, will ye not believe the truth? Truly I doubt whether a Jew can be really human� I lead out from its den a monstrous animal, and show it as a stock in the amphitheater of the world, in the sight of all the people. I bring thee forward, thou Jew, thou brute beast, in the sight of all men.
From "The Roots of Christian Anti-Semitism" by Malcolm Hay
Martin Luther � 1543
On The Jews and Their Lies
What then shall we Christians do with this damned, rejected race of Jews? Since they live among us and we know about their lying and blasphemy and cursing, we can not tolerate them if we do not wish to share in their lies, curses, and blasphemy. In this way we cannot quench the inextinguishable fire of divine rage nor convert the Jews. We must prayerfully and reverentially practice a merciful severity. Perhaps we may save a few from the fire and flames [of hell]. We must not seek vengeance. They are surely being punished a thousand times more than we might wish them. Let me give you my honest advice.
First, their synagogues should be set on fire, and whatever does not burn up should be covered or spread over with dirt so that no one may ever be able to see a cinder or stone of it. And this ought to be done for the honor of God and of Christianity in order that God may see that we are Christians, and that we have not wittingly tolerated or approved of such public lying, cursing, and blaspheming of His Son and His Christians.
Secondly, their homes should likewise be broken down and destroyed. For they perpetrate the same things there that they do in their synagogues. For this reason they ought to be put under one roof or in a stable, like gypsies, in order that they may realize that they are not masters in our land, as they boast, but miserable captives, as they complain of incessantly before God with bitter wailing.
Thirdly, they should be deprived of their prayer-books and Talmuds in which such idolatry, lies, cursing, and blasphemy are taught.
Fourthly, their rabbis must be forbidden under threat of death to teach any more...
Fifthly, passport and traveling privileges should be absolutely forbidden to the Jews. For they have no business in the rural districts since they are not nobles, nor officials, nor merchants, nor the like. Let them stay at home...If you princes and nobles do not close the road legally to such exploiters, then some troop ought to ride against them, for they will learn from this pamphlet what the Jews are and how to handle them and that they ought not to be protected. You ought not, you cannot protect them, unless in the eyes of God you want to share all their abomination...
To sum up, dear princes and nobles who have Jews in your domains, if this advice of mine does not suit you, then find a better one so that you and we may all be free of this insufferable devilish burden - the Jews...
Let the government deal with them in this respect, as I have suggested. But whether the government acts or not, let everyone at least be guided by his own conscience and form for himself a definition or image of a Jew. When you lay eyes on or think of a Jew you must say to yourself: Alas, that mouth which I there behold has cursed and execrated and maligned every Saturday my dear Lord Jesus Christ, who has redeemed me with his precious blood; in addition, it prayed and pleaded before God that I, my wife and children, and all Christians might be stabbed to death and perish miserably. And he himself would gladly do this if he were able, in order to appropriate our goods...
Such a desperate, thoroughly evil, poisonous, and devilish lot are these Jews, who for these fourteen hundred years have been and still are our plague, our pestilence, and our misfortune.
I have read and heard many stories about the Jews which agree with this judgment of Christ, namely, how they have poisoned wells, made assassinations, kidnapped children, as related before. I have heard that one Jew sent another Jew, and this by means of a Christian, a pot of blood, together with a barrel of wine, in which when drunk empty, a dead Jew was found. There are many other similar stories. For their kidnapping of children they have often been burned at the stake or banished (as we already heard). I am well aware that they deny all of this. However, it all coincides with the judgment of Christ which declares that they are venomous, bitter, vindictive, tricky serpents, assassins, and children of the devil, who sting and work harm stealthily wherever they cannot do it openly. For this reason, I would like to see them where there are no Christians. The Turks and other heathen do not tolerate what we Christians endure from these venomous serpents and young devils...next to the devil, a Christian has no more bitter and galling foe than a Jew. There is no other to whom we accord as many benefactions and from whom we suffer as much as we do from these base children of the devil, this brood of vipers.
Translated by Martin H. Bertram, "On The Jews and Their Lies, Luther's Works, Volume 47"; Philadelphia: Fortress Press, 1971.
Martin Luther - 1543
Of The Unknowable Name and The Generations of Christ
But your [God�s] judgment is right, justus es Dominie. Yes, so shall Jews, but no one else be punished, who held your word and miracles in contempt and ridiculed, insulted and damned it for such a long time without interruption, so that they will not fall, like other humans, heathens and all the others, into sin and death, not up in Hell, nor in the middle of Hell but in the pit of Hell, as one cannot fall deeper...
Even if they were punished in the most gruesome manner that the streets ran with their blood, that their dead would be counted, not in the hundred thousands, but in the millions, as happened under Vespasian in Jerusalem and for evil under Hadrian, still they must insist on being right even if after these 1,500 years they were in misery another 1,500 years, still God must be a liar and they must be correct. In sum, they are the devil�s children, damned to Hell...
The Jews too got what they deserved. They had been called and elected to be God�s mouth as Jeremiah says...Open your mouth wide and I will fill it; they however, kept tightly closed their muzzles, eyes, ears, nose, whole heart and all senses, so he polluted andsprayedthem so full that it oozes from them in all places and devil�s filth comes from them.
Yes, that tastes good to them, into their hearts, they smack their lips like swine. That is how they want it. Call more: �Crucify him, crucify him.� Scream more: �His blood come upon us and our children.� (Matthew 27:25) I mean it came and found you...
Perhaps, one of the merciful Saints among us Christians may think I am behaving too crude and disdainfully against the poor, miserable Jews in that I deal with them so sarcastically and insulting. But, good God, I am much too mild in insulting such devils�
John Calvin
A Response To Questions and Objections of a Certain Jew
Their [the Jews] rotten and unbending stiffneckedness deserves that they be oppressed unendingly and without measure or end and that they die in their misery without the pity of anyone.
Excerpt from "Ad Quaelstiones et Objecta Juaei Cuiusdam Responsio," by John Calvin; The Jew in Christian Theology, Gerhard Falk, McFarland and Company, Inc., Jefferson, NC and London, 1931.
Calvinism, Arminianism, and the Biblical Balance - PART 2 - Tracing the TULIP in the Early Church Fathers.
Posted : 29 Sep, 2013 08:34 PM
I love my Christian brother and sister; We are one in Y-shua. I want to say more but I keep erasing., because I do not want to come against my family in Y-shua weather I LIKE WHAT THEY DID NOT. THE SCRIPTURE DEFENDS ITSLFE!!!
stock in the amphitheater of the world, in the sight of all the people. I bring thee forward, thou Jew, thou brute beast, in the sight of all men.