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Posted : 31 May, 2015 01:40 PM

It's what ruins some people because they don't know which way to use it. I don't know what I would do with allot of money; but I'm sure there is a reason that I don't have much.

MATTHEW 19:23 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Even the rich can be forgiven and serve the Lord you just need to see your need for salvation and ask.

MATTHEW 19:24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

If you can still see your need for Him with a lot of money your rare. So where do you go to get the directions you need from God? Find a church that does there best to serve Christ, join and go to Sunday school.

If you're not saved today you can use this as a guide.

"Dear heavenly Father I am sorry your Son took the punishment that I deserve. I ask you Christ please forgive me of my sins.

Tell a pastor at a Christian Church that you have asked Christ for salvation.

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Posted : 2 Jun, 2015 04:10 AM

You wrote, "It's what ruins some people because they don't know which way to use it."



No, "it" is not what ruins people, it is others seeking to enslave you through the fiction that is called "money". Money is not real, it is fiction, which is why Yeshua said, "the truth shall set you free". Money is not even an "it" as in "a thing", money is a system of transmutative physics. The Word of Elohim tells us, "My people perish for a lack of knowledge". It is not money which causes people to perish, it is the lack of knowledge about money.



You wrote, "I don't know what I would do with allot of money; but I'm sure there is a reason that I don't have much."



You do not know the truth of which Yeshua spoke of, if you do not know what money is and how it involves you in life. To get into a thorough examination of this subject of money, is to prove that the religions called Judaism and Christianity are not real. This is why Yeshua was killed, to keep Him from telling men the truth which sets men free.



You wrote, "MATTHEW 19:23 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven."



The men of earth that seek to manipulate all things in the creation through this fictional system, are the wicked, they are the offspring of the Devil [See John 8:42-44]. Yeshua clashed with them in the Temple. They were imposters who were lying and deceiving the people, much in the way that so-called "Christian ministers" do to this very day.



You wrote, "Even the rich can be forgiven and serve the Lord you just need to see your need for salvation and ask."



No, this is not entirely true. You may recall the rich young ruler, who was told to "go and give all that you have, then come and follow me, but he went away sad". To walk with Yeshua and the true chosen of Elohim, is to comprehend the reason why the early church did not use money. This is why it is written, that "the believers had all things in common".



They comprehended what life is really all about, and Christianity cannot teach this, they are guilty of the corruptions that deceive and beguile men. All ministers in Christianity are fakes, as is this system of money they deceive men with. They are the blind leading the blind.

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Posted : 2 Jun, 2015 02:01 PM

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1 Timothy 6:9-11 (KJV)



9 But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition.



10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.



11 But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness.



"Those that Hate Others"



Matthew 5:43-48 (KJV)



43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.



44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;



45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.



46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?



47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?



48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.



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Posted : 2 Jun, 2015 03:28 PM

Thanks for the wonderful post HWKNS .GODSJUDE thank you for your wise input!! !!!! Wisdom indeed!!!

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Posted : 8 Jun, 2015 06:28 PM

(ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE)

i BELIEVE ONE CAN STILL SEE THEIR NEED FOR GOD EVEN WITH ALOT OF MONEY, REASON BEING;MONEY CAN'T BUY HEALTH, OR HAPPINESS OR LONG LIFE OR EVERLASTING LIFE EVEN MORE IT CAN'T BUY PEACE SO EVEN IF I WERE TO HAVE MILLIONS, THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS WHICH MONEY CAN'T AFFORD I WOULD STILL BE MISSING IT SO REALLY THAT PERSON WOULD STILL SEE THEIR NEED FOR GOD.



SECONDLY IF WERE TO HAVE LOTS OF CASH, HEY IT'S HOW TO CHOOSE TO WATCH IT, I COULD BELIEVE THAT YOU KNOW WHAT I REALLY WOULDN'T IF IT WEREN'T FOR GOD AND HENCE CHOOSE TO BLESS OTHERS AS WELL.



THANKS.

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Posted : 8 Jun, 2015 07:37 PM

mursieme anything is possible but life doesnt happen that way!





(ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE)



i BELIEVE ONE CAN STILL SEE THEIR NEED FOR GOD EVEN WITH ALOT OF MONEY, REASON BEING;MONEY CAN'T BUY HEALTH, OR HAPPINESS OR LONG LIFE



Money cant buy the best of everything? Money cant afford you to fly all the world seeking out the best treatments and specialty doctors? Money cannot buy you staff of all kinds to cater to your every need ? Money doesnt buy false security?







OR EVERLASTING LIFE EVEN MORE IT CAN'T BUY PEACE SO EVEN IF I WERE TO HAVE MILLIONS, THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS WHICH MONEY CAN'T AFFORD I WOULD STILL BE MISSING IT SO REALLY THAT PERSON WOULD STILL SEE THEIR NEED FOR GOD.



Thats the whole point! People that are rich dont see a need for any more peace. They think they already have it! They dont know of the peace that only comes from God because they have made themselves a world where they are their own god. They are deceived!



SECONDLY IF WERE TO HAVE LOTS OF CASH, HEY IT'S HOW TO CHOOSE TO WATCH IT, I COULD BELIEVE THAT YOU KNOW WHAT I REALLY WOULDN'T IF IT WEREN'T FOR GOD AND HENCE CHOOSE TO BLESS OTHERS AS WELL.



Have you ever been around the rich? They think very highly of themselves ie pride! They also think poor people are poor because the poor are stupid and because they are lazy. Rich people have alot of cash to do all kinds of things but mostly they tend to do evil. Sure there are exceptions but not many!



We just have to trust Gods word. Jesus talked about money and the rich man because the rich usually rely on noone but themselves, their money, and what their money can hire!! Rich people buy all kinds of things they dont need! Rich people indulge in all kinds of things that noone needs! They dont need rescuing nor do they think they need to surrender to anyone to get their needs met.Being rich only gives people a false sense of security! How many rich people do you know who rely on God and give away lots of money? I mean really! How many?









Jesus said that it was easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to go to heaven. Why would this be?



Does this mean that it will be hard for e.g. Warren Buffett to go to heaven? Can a rich man go to heaven only by giving away all of his goods to the poor, as Jesus advised one young rich man? And could this be why Warren Buffett set up a charitable foundation?



It is entirely possible for a rich man to go to heaven. The problem is that a rich man can more easily trust in his own merits or wealth. There are many proverbs that talk about that, like Proverbs 11:28



Whoever trusts in his riches will fall, but the righteous will flourish like a green leaf.



When we trust in ourselves and don't rely on Jesus and his death and resurrection for our salvation, then we cannot enter the kingdom of heaven. When Jesus told the rich man to go sell everything he was testing him to see whether his trust and security was in Jesus or in his riches (himself).



And Jesus looked around and said to his disciples, �How difficult it will be for those who have wealth to enter the kingdom of God!� 24 And the disciples were amazed at his words. But Jesus said to them again, �Children, how difficult it is to enter the kingdom of God! 25 It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God.� 26 And they were exceedingly astonished, and said to him, �Then who can be saved?� 27 Jesus looked at them and said, �With man it is impossible, but not with God. For all things are possible with God.� Mark 11:23-27









This is explained by Jesus in Matthew chapter 6:



No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon. (Matthew 6:24) (See also: Luke 16:13)



The problem with this rich man is that he loves his money more than God; this is a transgression of the Greatest Commandment, �You shall love the L&#7439;&#640;&#7429; your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might.� (Deut 6:5)



For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. (Matthew 6:21)





It is human nature to serve the money that is serving you if your eyes are focused on it ie loving it! The rich become prideful and they are their own gods because they have so much power through their riches.



Trust Jesus' words. He taught on this for a reason. You either follow his words or you dont.

Do not lean on your own understanding. Jesus Christ gave us his word to train us up to walk the narrow path which is the only way to the eternal life .

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Posted : 8 Jun, 2015 07:46 PM

Which by the way:

You dont have to be rich to love money!

Even the poor can get wrapped up in desiring stuff all the time!



Even the poor can have a thought process where they think just a little more money will solve all their problems!



Its not just the rich that are guilty of loving money and always wanting more!

God wants us truly trust him. He has told us that we have no reason to ever worry about anything. He gives us what we need and most of the time more than we need! Praise the Lord!!





Do Not Worry

25"For this reason I say to you, do not be worried about your life, as to what you will eat or what you will drink; nor for your body, as to what you will put on. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothing? 26"Look at the birds of the air, that they do not sow, nor reap nor gather into barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not worth much more than they?�





The Lord provides always!

Gods grace to you

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Posted : 16 Jun, 2015 03:31 PM

1 Timothy 6:10 says that money, in itself, is not the problem. The problem is loving the stuff.



1 Timothy 6:10

For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.



I think that a person might be more prone to make money an idol if they do not have it. Because just because a person is poor does not mean that they do not need money. (and like was said before poor people almost have to make money a concern of there's)



I think that we can learn from Proverbs 30:8-9:

8Keep deception and lies far from me, Give me neither poverty nor riches; Feed me with the food that is my portion, 9That I not be full and deny You and say, "Who is the LORD?" Or that I not be in want and steal, And profane the name of my God.

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