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Is Jesus God's son or is Jesus actually God?
Posted : 25 Jul, 2015 06:00 PM

I grew up in a Moravian church and we were always taught that Jesus is the son of God. However as an adult I have attended Evangelical and Pentecostal churches which have taught that Jesus is God. I have found it hard to get my head around this as there are so many instances where Jesus refers to God as his father in the bible.

How does everyone else view Jesus (Son of God or is actually God?)

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Is Jesus God's son or is Jesus actually God?
Posted : 26 Jul, 2015 02:04 PM

Hello

Thank you for your question, and honesty.

Messiah Yeshua,is both the Son of GOD,and the son of man,He has 2/two natures within Himself,He has both the Nature of GOD,thus He is the Son of GOD,AND He has the nature of man,as He had become a man in order to show us who the Father is,and what the Father is like.

If you have seen me,you have seen the Father.

The 2/two natures of Messiah are sinless,both as the Son of GOD,qnd the son of man.

The Holy Spirit placed Yeshua within the womb of Mary,thus we have His human nature. Being the Son of GOD,he is no less equal to the Father because He had taken the form of a man,but rather He shows forth His Omnipotance,and His Omniscience,by becoming something He is not,a man.

Jesus is equal with the Father in all things,as all things were created by Him and for His good pleasure.

Jesus has 2/two natures in order to mediate between GOD,and man in himself.

Messiah reveals to sinful man,perfect GOD because no man can see GOD and live,in Himself Messiah reveals to the Father perfect man,thus the reason for having 2/two natures.

If Messiah is not both the Son of GOD,and the son of man then His life would have meant nothing.



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Is Jesus God's son or is Jesus actually God?
Posted : 27 Jul, 2015 11:50 AM

John 1-3 (KJV)

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.



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Is Jesus God's son or is Jesus actually God?
Posted : 3 Aug, 2015 05:53 AM

John 8

53Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself? 54Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God: 55Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying. 56Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. 57Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? 58Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM.



Exodus 3

13And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them? 14And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.



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Is Jesus God's son or is Jesus actually God?
Posted : 5 Aug, 2015 07:02 PM

It's what one might call a paradox. Jesus is both the son of God and God himself. God presents himself through the form of man, becoming both 100% human and 100% God. After reading the scriptures, we can see a picture of a God who reveals himself in 3 forms all working together in perfect harmony (Trinity). If you are unconvinced of Jesus' oneness with his father you should read through the NT. The books of Colossians, Titus, and Philipians shine light on the truth of who Jesus is. Jesus and his disciple's claim that Jesus is more than a mere man leave us with 2 choices. Either we believe he is God or just that they're all crazy.

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Is Jesus God's son or is Jesus actually God?
Posted : 21 Aug, 2015 10:48 AM

Deut.4:35



35 You were shown these things so that you might know that YHWH is God; besides him there is no other.



Deut.4:39



Acknowledge and take to heart this day that YHWH is God in heaven above and on the earth below. There is no other.



Isaiah 42



5 This is what YHWH says� He who created the heavens and stretched them out, who spread out the earth and all that comes out of it, who gives breath to its people, and life to those who walk on it:



Isaiah 42



8 I am YHWH: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images."



Isaiah 44



6 �This is what YHWH says � Israel�s King (Yahshua had not yet been installed as YHWH's proxy King) and Redeemer, Yahuah Almighty: I am the first and I am the last; apart from me there is no God.



Isaiah 44



24 �This is what YHWH says� your Redeemer, who formed you in the womb: I am YHWH, the maker of all things, who stretches out the heavens, who spreads out the earth by myself.



Isaiah 45



5 I am YHWH, and there is no other; apart from me there is no God.



Isaiah 46



5 "To whom will you compare me or count me equal? To whom will you liken me that we may be compared? 8 "Remember this, fix it in mind, take it to heart, you rebels. 9 Remember the former things, those of long ago; I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like me. 10 I make known the end from the beginning, from ancient times, what is still to come. I say: My purpose will stand, and I will do all that I please.





Isaiah 43:10 King James Version (KJV)



10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the Lord, (YHWH) and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.



John 3:16 King James Version (KJV)



16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever

believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.



beget



verb be�get



: to cause (something) to happen or exist



: to become the father of (someone)



transitive verb



1

: to procreate as the father : sire

2

: to produce especially as an effect or outgrowth



http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/beget



I Timothy 2:5 KJV



5 For there is one God, and one mediator BETWEEN God and men, the MAN Christ Jesus



John 17:3 KJV



....And this is life eternal, that they might know THEE, the only true God, AND Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.





1 Corinthians 8:4-6New International Version (NIV)



4 So then, about eating food sacrificed to idols: We know that �An idol is nothing at all in the world� and that �There is no God but one.� 5 For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as indeed there are many �gods� and many �lords�), 6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.



John 20:17King James Version (KJV)



17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.



Romans 15:6 (English-NIV)

so that with one heart and mouth you may glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.



2 Corinthians 1:3 (English-NIV)

Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of compassion and the God of all comfort,



2 Corinthians 11:31 (English-NIV)

The God and Father of the Lord Jesus, who is to be praised forever, knows that I am not lying.



Ephesians 1:3 (English-NIV)

Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in the heavenly realms with every spiritual blessing in Christ.



Colossians 1:3 (English-NIV)

We always thank God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, when we pray for you,



1 Peter 1:3 (English-NIV)

Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! In his great mercy he has given us new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,



Ephesians 1:17 (English-NIV)

I keep asking that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the glorious Father, may give you the Spirit of wisdom and revelation, so that you may know him better.



Revelation 3:12 (KJV)



Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.



Ephesians 4:4-6



4 there is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called

5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism;

6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

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Posted : 13 Nov, 2016 03:23 PM

Mysteriously, Jesus is both the Son of God and "actually God."



The Son of God:



1. Jesus is the WORD that became FLESH or the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD in St John 1



2. St John 3: 16 - God gave His ONLY BEGOTTEN SON.



Actually God:



1. THE WORD that became FLESH in John 1 WAS GOD, meaning GOD became flesh - a Son. And we (Peter, James and John) beheld His glory as of the only begotten Son of God...(see Matt 17)



2. "And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life" (1 Jn 5:20)



Note: "...the Son of God" who came "...is the true God..." and there is only One God (see Eph 4: 6).

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