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Posted : 1 Sep, 2018 02:38 AM

I know we have all heard the 'end is nigh' before but this time to me it really does feel like it is.



I found this yesterday https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/3297518/The-world-ends-on-Feb-1-2019-possibly.html

and I've been seeing 2 suns at sunset sometimes for the past few weeks.



There is a lot of internet talk about the supervolcano at Yellowstone Park and the ring of fire becoming very volatile.



Pre Mandela effects Revelation used to say there would be an earthquake as the earth has never seen just before an asteroid (Wormwood) hit.



Some are even saying that possibly Comet 21P along with a massive asteroid shower could strike the earth next month.



I'm looking at a road trip to Poland or Bulgaria next month to hedge my bets as they aren't too far from Israel which will stand to the end. Just wondered if anyone else was aware of Planet X, Nibiru, Comet 21P or even Mandela effects. I'd never heard of any of these things until last year and have seen a few strange changes. Something is definitely up.

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Posted : 1 Sep, 2018 10:50 AM

Planet X is a crack pot theory up there with the ancient astronaut theory. Its been disproven left and right. I don't know about the others.

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Posted : 1 Sep, 2018 05:07 PM

I’ve lived long enough to have heard end time conspiracy theories come and go. The only ones I trust are biblical where prophecy has an historic track record of accuracy. Jesus could come any time now. I want to eagerly look forward to seeing him and be found joyfully obedient when he comes, that’s why I’m trying to live in such a way I won’t be ashamed to see him. Not always easy!!

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Posted : 1 Sep, 2018 07:40 PM

But you’re right, catastrophic prospects like volcanic eruptions are frightening to think about especially mega-mad ones like Yellowstone

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Posted : 3 Sep, 2018 09:53 AM

**WHERE IN GOD'S WORD DOES IT SAY THAT THERE WILL BE WORLD WAR AND WORLD CHAOS JUST BEFORE THE GREAT TRIBULATION**??



Matthew 24:3-13: The disciples asked Jesus, "What will be the sign of your coming and the end of the age?" Jesus answered, "... You will hear of **WARS AND RUMORS OF WARS**, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. **NATION WILL RISE AGAINST NATION AND KINGDOM AGAINST KINGDOM**... All these are the beginning of birth pains... Then {At the beginning of the Great Tribulation} you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of Me. At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold but those who stand firm to the end will be saved!"



By declaring that the USA will now have their embassy in Jerusalem on the 70th Anniversary of Israel on May 14th, 2018, Trump has laid the groundwork for **WORLD WAR** and all 21 Muslim countries possibly declaring war on Israel.



Trump has also started a **TRADE WAR** with all the major nations of trhe world which will continually cause more **WORLD CHAOS**!!



Iran has flown in 80,000 Iranian troops to Syria near Israel's border. Israel has responded by bombing the Iranian troops 2 times and Iran has promised to **RETALIATE**!!



Trump eliminated the Atomic Treaty atomic treaty with Iran on May 8th, 2018 and Iran has promised to **RETALIATE**!!



If Israel and Iran go to war Russia and China will side with Iran which will cause the USA to join the war with Israel causing extreme world-wide world War and extreme world-wide **CHAOS** thus setting the stage for the beginning of the Great Tribulation and the coming of 666 from the Abyss or Hell. Many believe that the extremely evil Pope Francis fully qualifies to be the future False Prophet of 666!!



And so the **WORLD CHAOS** and **WORLD WAR** just before the Great Tribulation may be **EXTREMELY CLOSE**



Syrian state media reported on Tuesday night, May 8th, 2018, that Israel conducted an airstrike south of Damascus, reportedly killing nine pro-Iranian fighters in an area previously identified as the site of a suspected Iranian military base.



�Nine fighters belonging to the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps or pro-Iranian Shiite militias have been killed� Rami Abd el-Rahman, director of the Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, told AFP. Iran has promised to **RETALIATE**!



The alleged strike came hours after the Israeli military said it had identified �abnormal movements of Iranian forces in Syria� and called for local governments in the Golan Heights to open their bomb shelters.



Rahman said the strike targeted an �arms depot elonging to Hezbollah and the Iranians.�



Earlier on Tuesday night, US President Donald Trump announced that the United States was pulling out of the Iran nuclear deal and imposing new sanctions on the Islamic Republic, in part due to Iran�s destabilizing activities in the Middle East.



The al-Mayadeen news outlet, which is seen as sympathetic to Hezbollah, reported that fires had broken out in the area following the blasts.



Videos from the scene, which were posted on social media, showed the moment of the strike�s impact and its aftermath. Surveillance footage showed a blast of white light as the bombs hit, followed by what appeared to be secondary explosions, supporting the claim that the targets of the strike were missiles. Cellphone videos also showed trucks burning and fires raging in the direction of the alleged Iranian base.



On November 2017, Western intelligence officials told the BBC that Iran had established a permanent military base in el-Kiswah.



A month later, the alleged Iranian base was targeted by an airstrike, which was attributed to Israel.



The army on Tuesday night did not instruct residents of the Golan Heights to enter bomb shelters, only for local authorities to open public ones in case of emergency.



A number of reservists were also called up, the army said. An IDF spokesperson would not elaborate on which units they came from, but media reports indicated they served in air defense, intelligence and Home Front Command units.



The Israel Defense Forces said it deployed missile defense batteries in northern Israel and �there is high preparedness of IDF troops for an attack.�



The military called on residents to listen to security instructions as needed.



Following Trump�s announcement, Defense Minister Avigdor Liberman met with the heads of Israel�s armed services in the military�s Tel Aviv headquarters to discuss the security situation, his office said.



Earlier on Tuesday, the US Embassy in Israel also prohibited American government employees from visiting the Golan Heights without approval in light of the security situation on the border.



�The IDF is ready and prepared for a variety of scenarios and warns that any action against Israel will be answered with a **FIERCE RETALIATION**,� the army said.



A video released by the IDF showed soldiers setting up the Iron Dome, Patriot, and Arrow missile defense systems.



The military does not generally reveal its deployment of air defenses. Its decision to do so was likely an effort to both reassure residents of northern Israel and warn Iran that the IDF was prepared to counter a missile attack.



On Sunday night, Israeli defense officials warned that Iran was planning to retaliate for two recent deadly airstrikes in Syria, which have been attributed to the Jewish state, by having its proxies fire missiles at military targets in northern Israel sometime in the near future.



Security forces were also preparing for the possibility of attempted infiltrations of military bases and communities in the north by Iran, Hadashot TV news reported on Monday.



Tehran vowed revenge after the T-4 army base in Syria was struck in an air raid on April 9, killing at least seven members of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps. The strike was widely attributed to Israel, though Jerusalem refused to comment on it. (T-4 was the base from which Israel said Iran launched an attack drone into Israel in February.) Late last month, a second strike, allegedly conducted by Israel, against an Iranian-controlled base in northern Syria was said to have killed more than two dozen Iranian soldiers. On Monday, May 14th, Iran�s army chief of staff warned that the regime would respond to any Israeli aggression �at an appropriate time,� as the countries continued to trade threats amid spiraling tensions.



�If the enemy casts a covetous eye on our interests or conducts [even] a slight act of aggression, the Islamic Republic will give an appropriate response at an appropriate time,� Maj. Gen. Mohammad Bagheri said according to regime-affiliated Press TV.



On Sunday, all of Israel�s nightly news broadcasts reported that the Israeli military and intelligence services had identified preliminary efforts **BY IRAN IN SYRIA TO CARRY OUT ITS REPRISAL**, using its Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, the Hezbollah terrorist group and local Shiite militias to launch a barrage of precision-guided missiles, likely at Israeli military targets in the north.



�Israel has recently identified with certainty Iranian preparations to fire at the north,� Channel 10 said. "Iran is very determined to carry out an attack� to avenge the T-4 strike and the deaths of its military personnel, it said.



Israel Radio on Sunday night said the Iranian planning for an attack was at �an advanced stage.� Israel was working to prevent or counter such an attack, but was also preparing for the possibility that the Iranians �succeed in hitting a base in the north with missiles,� Channel 10 reported. The Israel Defense Forces was threatening to hit all Iranian targets in Syria if Tehran launched an attack on Israeli territory, the TV report said.



On May 10th Iran sent 20 missiles into Northern Israel. Israel retaliated by bombing 18 Iranian bases in Syria!! Iran has promised so **RETALIATE** so war with Iran and Syria is EXTREMELY CLOSE!!



Could this be the beginning of a World War just before the beginning of the Great Tribulation???



Also because of this World War and World Chaos there will be tremendous inflation and a loaf of bread will cost a full day's wages as per Revelation 6:6 just before the coming Great Tribulation!!



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Posted : 3 Sep, 2018 06:00 PM

Stop your spreading of fear uncertainty and doubt.

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Posted : 5 Sep, 2018 01:58 PM

Well I've personally experienced a lot of strange things this year such as Mandela effects where even Bible verses I have studied for 30 years have changed. Like the Lion laying with the Lamb in Isaiah 11. There is also a complete new chapter about King Davids sin of counting Israel and having to choose his punishment. Not to mention extra plagues in Exodus such as the plague of darkness.



As far as planet x goes I never heard of it until a few weeks ago when I wanted to know why I could see two suns in the sky at sunset.



Then it turns out the extra volcanic activity around the world is a result of the planet affecting the magnetic plates under the earth.



Rev 6 kicks off with an earthquake, then throw in Trumps latest middle east peace talks and Thessalonians 5:3 peppered with some 9 11 conspiracy with it being a favorite free mason date I'm hedging my bets and getting out of the kill zone fairly sharp.



Motor will be packed tomorrow then I'm off to eastern europe on holiday to be on the safe side.



I haven't spent thousands of hours studying the Bible to not try and avoid the coming destruction.



Denial, procrastination and location will be the biggest killers.



Ignore the numpty preppers with a few tins of beans and bottles of water in their basement. They will suffocate under a 12 foot high pile of ash. The Christian preppers are even worst, they will advise you to anoint your front door with olive oil so the plague of darkness will pass over.

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Posted : 5 Sep, 2018 02:55 PM

**WHAT SHOULD GOD'S SAINTS EXPECT DURING THE 1260-DAY GREAT TRIBULATION WHICH MAY BE EXTREMELY CLOSE**??



According to Revelation 13:5,7,8: The Beast {666} will have authority over **EVERY** tribe, people, **NATION** and language in the world for 42 {30-day} months {1260 days} and everyone whose name is not written in the Lamb's Book of Life will worship **666**. **666** is called �THE BEAST� 36 {6x6} times in the book of Revelation.



Question: How will the Beast {666} and His False Prophet gain control of every nation of the world in the first week of the 1260-day Tribulation?? According to Daniel 7:24b a Roman King will subdue 3 kings.



Rev 6:8; �There before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death, {666} and Hades {The False prophet who will cause people to go to hell or hades with the mark of 666} was following close behind him. They were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth.



NOTE: China, India and Russia are 3 kingdoms that make up a fourth of the earth!



Rev 13:4-10: Men worshiped the dragon {Satan} because he had given authority to the Beast {666} and they also worshiped the beast and asked, �Who is like the Beast? Who can make war against him?� The Beast will exercise his authority for 42 {30-day} months {1260 days}, He will be given authority over **EVERY** tribe, people, language and **NATION**. All inhabitants of the earth will worship the Beast--all whose names have not been written in the **LAMB'S** Book of Life. Whoever has ears let him hear: "If anyone is to go into captivity, into captivity they will go. If anyone is to be killed with the sword, with the sword he will be killed." This calls for patient endurance and faithfulness on the part of God's saints! Revelation 14:12 adds: This calls for patient endurance on the part of the saints who obey His commands and remain faithful to Jesus!



Revelation 12:11: They triumphed over him {666}, by the blood of the **LAMB** and by the word of their testimony; they did not love their lives so much as to shrink from death!



Some of the many eternal rewards for the martyrs like Jesus is that they will be immediately be awake in heaven, receive their new heavenly bodies and are before the throne of God **BEFORE** the Last Day as per Revelation 7:9,14-17 and Revelation 15:1-4!!



NOTE: **666** is called the Beast 36 or **6X6** times in Revelation.



Immediately after miraculously conquering 3 kingdoms or one fourth of the earth 666 will appoint 10 kings who had never before ruled over the 10 most powerful kingdoms of the earth.



Rev 17:12-14: The 10 horns you saw {On 666} are 10 kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but will give their authority as kings along with the Beast {666}. They have one purpose and will give their authority to the Beast {666}. They will make war against the Lamb but the Lamb will overcome them {On the Last Day} because He is King of kings and Lord of lords.� {See Rev 19:20,21}



The following 10 powerful nations have **OVER 50% OF THE WORLD'S POPULATION** and **ABOUT 70% OF THE WORLD'S MILITARY POWER** and certainly have the military, political and �religious� power to control and rule all the nations of the world: #1. United States #2. Russia #3. China {1.3 Billion} #4. Great Britain #5. France #6. India {1.1 Billion} #7. Germany #8. Japan #9. Brazil #10. Egypt. Brazil borders every nation in South America except for Chile. Egypt is the university, intellectual and theological center of Islam. And then 666 will have �Authority over every tribe, people, language and nation� as per Rev 13:7b, from his headquarters in the evil city on 7 hills or Rome. The idea that 666 will choose a European Union of 10 nations with about 5 % of the world's population and about 10 % of the world's military power to control the world just because these nations are close to Rome is just an idea which is not supported by God's Word.



Revelation 13:14-17: �He {The False Prophet-Pope Francis??} will deceive the inhabitants of the earth. He will order them to set up an image in honor of the Beast {666} who was wounded by the sword {On June 9th AD 68} and yet lived {Nero Caesar?}. He will have power to give breath to the image of the first Beast {666}, so that it could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed.�



�He also forced everyone... to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast {NERO CAESAR?} or the number of his name 666!�



Since these 2 world-wide laws: To worship the statue of 666 {Possibly on TV} or be killed; and not being able to buy or sell anything; there will be a huge falling away among most of the people who claim to be Christians but are not the called, the chosen and the faithful. Moses and Elijah will begin their 1260-day testimony {Rev 11:3} 3 1/2 days before the coming of 666 & the 1260-day Great Tribulation and 1263 1/2 days before the Last Day. {***THE FIRST END-TIME EVENT***} Moses and Elijah will warn us of the coming of 666 & his False Prophet.



In Matthew 24:3,9-13: The disciples asked Jesus, �What will be the sign of your Coming and the end of the age?? Jesus answered�.. {During the 1260-day Great Tribulation} �Then *YOU* will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and *YOU will be hated by all nations **BECAUSE OF ME**. At that time many will turn away from the Faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of *MOST will grow cold, but he {The Called, Chosen & Faithful} who stands firm to the **END** will be saved.� Rev 2:10: Jesus says, �Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you the Crown of Life!�



God will miraculously take care of His Faithful and Courageous Tribulation Saints {Just as he took care of the Israelites for 40 years in the Wilderness} even though they won�t be able to buy or sell anything as per Rev 13:17a. {See Matthew 6:25-34 where storing up items are forbidden} There are a few Post-Tribbers such as Jim Bakker who are teachinng that we should store up at least a year's supply of food for the Great Tribulation which is a direct contradiction to God's Word in Matthew 6:31-34.



Matthew 6:31-34: Jesus says, �Do not worry, saying, �What shall we eat?� or �What shall we drink?� or �What shall we wear?� For the pagans run after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them. But seek first His Kingdom and His righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well. Therefore, do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own!�



**JESUS SAYS DO NOT WORRY WHAT TO SAY WHEN YOU ARE BROUGHT TO TRIAL DURING THE GREAT TRIBULATION**!!



Luke 21:12-15: Jesus says, "They will put you in prison, and you will be brought before kings and governors, and all on account of My name. And so you will bear testimony to Me. But make up your mind not to worry beforehand how you will defend yourselves. For I will give you words and wisdom, that none of your adversaries will be able to resist or contradict. Mark 13:11 adds: Jesus says, "Whenever you are arrested and brought to trial, do not worry beforehand what to say. Just say whatever is given you at the time, for it is not you speaking, but the **HOLY SPIRIT**!"



**666 AND HIS FALSE PROPHET AND OTHER FALSE PROPHETS WILL PERFORM GREAT SIGNS AND WONDERS THAT WILL ALMOST DECEIVE GOD'S ELECT**!!



Revelation 13:13,14: The False Prophet will perform great signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to the earth in full view of the people. Because of the signs he will be given power to performon behalf of the Beast {666}, he deceived the inhabtants of the earth!



2 Thessalonians 2:9,10: The coming of the Lawless One {666} will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie, and all the ways that wickedness deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refuse to love the truth and so be saved.



Matthew 24:24,25: Jesus says, "False messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive even the elect--if that were possible. See, I have told you ahead of time!"



**AND THEN THE PRE-TRIBBERS QUOTE THE FOLLOWING SCRIPTURES:



Romans 5:9: Since we have been justified by His blood, how much more shall we be saved from **GOD'S WRATH** through Him!.



I Thessalonians 5:9: God did not appoint us to suffer **WRATH** but to receive salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ!



However, God's Tribulation saints will not be hurt by **GOD'S WRATH** during the Great Tribulation! The horrific 7 Trumpet Plagues and 7 Bowl Plagues and eternal torment in Hell; are reserved only for the unbelievers and will not hurt God's saints in any way just as the 10 Old Testament Egyptian plagues miraculously did not hurt any of God's people; as shown by the following Scripture in Revelation:



Revelation 9:4-6: They were told to only harm those people who did not have the seal of God on their heads. They were not given power to kill them, but only to torture them for 5 months. During these days men will seek death, but will not find it they will long to die but death will elude them.



Revelation 9:18,20,21: A third of mankind will be killed by the plagues of fire, smoke and sulfur that comes out of their mouths.... The rest of mankind that were not killed by these plagues still did not repent of the work of their hands, they did not stop worshiping demons and idols of gold... Nor did they repent of their murders, their magic arts, their sexual immorality or their thefts!



Revelation 16:2: The first angel went and poured out his bowl on the land, and ugly and painful sores broke out on the people who had the mark of the beast and worshiped his image!



Revelation 16:6: They have shed the blood of your saints and prophets, and You have given them blood to drink as they deserve!



Revelation 16:9: They were seared by the intense heat and cursed the name of God who had control over these plagues, but they refused to repent and glorify Him!



Revelation 16:10: Men gnawed their tongues in agony and cursed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, but they refused to repent of what they had done.



Revelation 14:9,10: If anyone worships the Beast and his image and receives his mark on the forehead or on the hand, he, too, will drink of the wine of God's fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of **HIS WRATH** He will be tormented with burning sulfur...and the smoke of their torment rises for ever and ever!



**AND THE MANY PLAGUES OF GOD'S 2 WITNESSES, MOSES AND ELIJAH, WILL ONLY HURT THEIR UNSAVED ENEMIES**!!



Revelation 11:3-6: Jesus says, "I will appoint My 2 witnesses and they will prophesy for 1260 days, clothed in sackcloth. If anyone tries to harm them fire comes from their mouths and devours their enemies. This is how anyone who wants to harm them must die. They have power to shut up the heavens so that it will not rain during the time they are prophesying and they have power to turn the waters into blood and to strike the earth with every kind of plague as often as they want!!"



All of God's saints, 144,000 Jewish missionaries and Moses and Elijah will try to convert everyone who does not have the mark of the beast which is an unpardonable sin as per Revelation 14:9-11!



Revelation 17:14: They will make war against the **LAMB** but the **LAMB** will overcome them beecause He is **LORD** of lords and **KING** of kings and with Him will be His **CALLED** **CHOSEN** and **FAITHFUL** followers! {Riding on heavenly white horses immediately after the Marriage Feast of the Lamb as per Revelation 19:7-21!}



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