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Lies that christians are told by the self proclaiming pastors. # 1
Posted : 27 Nov, 2018 06:20 PM
Hello everyone,
The truthseeker is at it one more time, making the people to THINK about what they believe.
Pastors at Calvary chapel tell the people they neeed to make Messiah Lord of their lives. If Messiah is not Lord of all, then He is not Lord at all.
Is that not a lie from the enemy of GOD Almighty, how can anyone MAKE Messiah something the He already is and was before He created all we can see and cannot see.
Job where were you when I .....
Messiah does not need anyone to make Him Lord, because that is what He is, He is the MASTER, whether anyone believes that or not.
Lies that christians are told by the self proclaiming pastors. # 1
Posted : 28 Nov, 2018 12:18 AM
For sure George.
"Making" a lord or "making" a savior implies man making an idol god. I understand what they mean by that. But such phrasing might betray a desire to maintain just a little independence. I think evangelicals might prefer a god they can make who is acceptable to them (which is the essence of idol worship). Many seem to think God demands what belongs to them! The truth is, God's grace and patience affords people opportunity to recognize God as the Almighty. Only he is Lord, Maker and Owner. People are simply called to believe the Lordship of the Creator who MADE them and owns them. And to give Him glory that due His Name
Lies that christians are told by the self proclaiming pastors. # 1
Posted : 28 Nov, 2018 11:34 AM
To find fault in others does not mean there is no fault in ourselves. To make God the Lord of our lives would be to have God rule us, to be in charge of our life. The general advise is fine, but it is not Spirit. In the same regard, to point out that the Messiah is the Lord, is exactly in the same level, it is fine advice, but it is not the Spirit.
Yes in the book of Job God answers to shame the advisers into silence, comparing their knowledge to His, as them being not even in existence when God brought all into existence alone. In this very same deep thought, we compare the thoughts, knowledge, wisdom of man, it is zero. The ones who tel us to make the Lord, Lord of our lives are talking into the wind, and the ones who say the Lord already is the Lord, are talking because they have breath.
Is not that why God says for you to hear..
Isaiah 2:22 Cease ye from man, whose breath is in his nostrils: for wherein is he to be accounted of ?
Isaiah 25:9 And it shall be said in that day, Lo, this is our God; we have waited for him, and he will save us: this is the Lord; we have waited for him, we will be glad and rejoice in his salvation.
Jeremiah 24:7And I will give them an heart to know me, that I am the Lord: and they shall be my people, and I will be their God: for they shall return unto me with their whole heart.
Lies that christians are told by the self proclaiming pastors. # 1
Posted : 29 Nov, 2018 09:33 AM
"Are you a 'sinner' because you sin, OR
Do you sin because you are SINFUL."
"Adam, you talk as one that has no idea who Messiah is, or what He is like."
First the Word can talk what it is like when we do not know Him. Lying and not valiant for the truth. Saying someone talks like they do not know the Messiah and showing no correct way, is correct to those talkers. So it continues, this is them proceeding onwards anyway, from evil, To evil. Slandering their neighbour, this is their ways. Deceiving their neighbour, not speaking the truth, and give their devotion to....INIQUITY. Through this deceit is how they do not know the Messiah...
Jeremiah 9:3 And they bend their tongues like their bow for lies: but they are not valiant for the truth upon the earth; for they proceed from evil to evil, and they know not me, saith the Lord.
4 Take ye heed every one of his neighbour, and trust ye not in any brother: for every brother will utterly supplant, and every neighbour will walk with slanders.
5 And they will deceive every one his neighbour, and will not speak the truth: they have taught their tongue to speak lies, and weary themselves to commit iniquity.
6 Thine habitation is in the midst of deceit; through deceit they refuse to know me, saith the Lord.
But if we do GLORY, because we have to glory to know the Messiah, annointed of the HOLY GHOST, the Lord delights in lovingkindness, judgement, and righteousness..
Jeremiah 9:24 But let him that glorieth glory in this, that he understandeth and knoweth me, that I am the Lord which exercise LOVINGKINDNESS, JUDGMENT, and RIGHTEOUSNESS, in the earth: for in these things I delight, saith the Lord.
Matthew 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, JUDGMENT, MERCY, and FAITH: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
Luke 11:42 But woe unto you, Pharisees! for ye tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, AND PASS OVER JUDGMENT AND THE LOVE OF GOD: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
Now the question to you from God, shall we be saved/reign, because we clothe the outside in holiness? To do judgment and justice is to know the Lord, to JUDGE the cause of the poor and needy, not be for what you will receive with coveteousness, with oppression and violence in heart to your neighbour unaware..
Jeremiah 22:15 Shalt thou reign, because thou closest thyself in cedar? did not thy father eat and drink, and do judgment and justice, and then it was well with him?
16 He judged the cause of the poor and needy; then it was well with him: was not this to know me? saith the Lord.
17 But thine eyes and thine heart are not but for thy covetousness, and for to shed innocent blood, and for oppression, and for violence, to do it.
Jeremiah 9:8 Their tongue is as an arrow shot out; it speaketh deceit: one speaketh peaceably to his neighbour with his mouth, but in heart he layeth his wait.
I understand these things, do you? They forsook the law of the Lord, not obeyed His voice, not walked as the Lord walks, (we see in Christ how to walk) they walk after the imagination of THEIR OWN HEART Instead.
Jeremiah 9:12 Who is the wise man, that may understand this? and who is he to whom the mouth of the Lord hath spoken, that he may declare it, for what the land perisheth and is burned up like a wilderness, that none passeth through?
13 And the Lord saith, Because they have forsaken my law which I set before them, and have not obeyed my voice, neither walked therein;
14 But have walked after the imagination of their own heart, and after Baalim, which their fathers taught them:
Now, whether anyone reads this or not, God punishes the entire world, both circumcised and uncircumcised, (remember judgment above or forgot already) ALL who are UNCIRCUMCISED IN HEART...
Jeremiah 9:25 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will punish all them which are circumcised with the uncircumcised;
26 Egypt, and Judah, and Edom, and the children of Ammon, and Moab, and all that are in the utmost corners, that dwell in the wilderness: for all these nations are uncircumcised, and all the house of Israel are uncircumcised in the heart.
God gives An HEART To KNOW HIM..
Jeremiah 24:7 And I will give them an heart to know me, that I am the Lord: and they shall be my people, and I will be their God: for they shall return unto me with their whole heart.
There is NO RESPECT OF PERSONS WITH GOD. You only respect yourself. Sinning in the law or sinning out of the law, all will be JUDGED, THE DOERS OF THAT LAW OF CHRIST SHALL BE JUSTIFIED, NOT THE HEARERS. The LAW IS WRITTEN IN THOSE HEARTS, WITH CONSCIENCES, FORGIVING OR REVEALING THE DECEIVERS..
Romans 2:11 For there is no respect of persons with God.
12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;
13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;)
Does this sound familiar? Shall you reign because you omit the greater works of the law, faith mercy and judgment? Because you see yourself as clothed correctly on the OUTSIDE? Loving the upper most rooms and seats, exaltation pride, not humility sitting lowest, unaware to the men who hear you. Taking away the KEY OF KNOWLEDGE, not entering into the Kingdom of Heaven yourselves, so you hinder anyone seeking to enter. Pushing either grace and no works or continuing in sins to make Christ the minister of sin, they are wicked opinions, designed solely to attempt to mislead people..
Luke 11:43 Woe unto you, Pharisees! for ye love the uppermost seats in the synagogues, and greetings in the markets.
44 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are as graves which appear not, and the men that walk over them are not aware of them.
Luke 11:52 Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered.
53 And as he said these things unto them, the scribes and the Pharisees began to urge him vehemently, and to provoke him to speak of many things:
54 Laying wait for him, and seeking to catch something out of his mouth, that they might accuse him.
Look at the actual example, straining at a gnat, to question about whether we are sinful nature or sinners in sin, instead of knowing there are no differences, no excuses, because it is commanded what to do, do not think the superficial cleaning means a thing, because the hardest part to clean is the inside, which needs to be cleaned or the outside and all is still unclean. Appearing righteous to men because you care more about their eyesight of you than of the Lord seeing all your fullness of hypocrisy and iniquity on the inside because you cannot confess we must be filled with righteousness and no unrighteousness at all Yes the pharisees and seducees are repeated again in gracenot works and prophetic blind so called guides..
Matthew 23:24 YE BLIND GUIDES, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.
25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.
26 Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.
27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.
28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.
Lies that christians are told by the self proclaiming pastors. # 1
Posted : 29 Nov, 2018 10:51 AM
**There are over 400 New Covenant commandments in the New Testament. About 300 **DO'S** and about **100 DO'NTS and breaking even one of these 400 New Covenant Commandments is a **SIN** that must be repented of and forgiven!!
Some of these commandments are mentioned below:
Anyone who looks at a women with lust has committed **ADULTERY**! Matthew 5:27,28: Jesus says, "You have heard that it was said , 'Do not commit adultery." But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery in his heart!" {This of course would include pictures or movies of woman like in porn!}
Hebrews 4:12,13: The Word of God is living and active, sharper than any double edged sword... It judges the **THOUGHTS** and attitudes of the heart. Nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight. **EVERYTHING** is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of Him to whom we must give account!
I Corinthians 11:4,5,14-16 Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head. But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head.... If a man has long hair it is a **DISGRACE** to him! {This would include a long beard!} But if a woman has long hair it is her glory! If anyone wants to be contentious about this, we have no other practice--nor do the churches of God. {Unfortunately there are many sinful artists who make pictures and sculptures that show a sinful Jesus with **LONG HAIR**???}
I Timothy 2:9-11: I also want women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, adorning themselves not with **BRAIDED HAIR** or **GOLD** {Including all rings} or **PEARLS** or **EXPENSIVE CLOTHES**, but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God! A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to **TEACH** or have authority over a **MAN**, she must be quiet!
I Corinthians 14:34,35: Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their husbands at home; for it is **DISGRACEFUL FOR A WOMAN TO SPEAK IN THE CHURCH**!!
Joyce Meyer who is the only well known preacher that is so conceited that she proudly claims that she **NEVER SINS ANYMORE** has committed the above sins thousands of times and has never repented of her terrible sins!!
I Thessalonians 5:14-18: We urge you brothers, warn those who are idle, encourage the timid, **HELP THE WEAK**, be patient with everyone. Make sure that nobody pays back wrong for wrong, but always try to be kind to everyone else. Be **JOYFUL ALWAYS**, **PRAY CONTINUALLY**; give thanks in **ALL CIRCUMSTANCES**, for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus!!
I John 2:5,6: Whoever claims to live in Him **MUST** LIVE AS JESUS DID**!
I John 1:8-10: If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the **TRUTH IS NOT IN US**! If we **CONFESS OUR SINS**, He is faithful and just and will **FORGIVE US OUR SINS** and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned {Like Adam7777} we make Him out to be a liar and **HIS WORD IS NOT IN US**!!
Luke 11:1-4: One of His disciples asked Jesus, "Lord, teach us to pray!" Jesus says, "When you pray, say: "'Father, hallowed be your name, your Kingdom come. Give us each day our daily bread, **FORGIVE US OUR SINS**, for we also forgive everyone who sins against us!!" {Satan's followers like Adam7777 and Joyce Meyer and Satan will never repent of their sins or ask forgiveness for their sins since they claim that they **NEVER SIN ANY MORE**??}
Galatians 6:1: Brothers, if someone is caught in a sin, you who are spiritual should restore him gently. But watch yourself, or you may also be tempted. Carry each others burdens, and in this way you fulfill the law of Christ!!
James 5:16: **CONFESS YOUR SINS** to each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous man is powerful and effective!!
Revelation 3:19: Jesus says, "Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline, so be earnest and repent!!"
Hebrews 12:5-11: Do not make light of the Lord's discipline, and do not lose heart when He rebukes you, because the Lord disciplines those He loves, and **HE CHASTENS **EVERYONE** He accepts as His son! Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as His children. For what children are not disciplined by their father? **IF YOU ARE NOT DISCIPLINED--AND**EVERYONE UNDERGOES DISCIPLINE--THEN YOU ARE **NOT LEGITIMATE**, not true sons and daughters at all. Moreover, we have all had human fathers who disciplined us and we respected them for it. How much more should we submit to the Father of spirits and live! They disciplined us for a little while as they thought best; but God disciplines us for our good, in order that we may share in His holiness. No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it!
Now Adam7777 goes even on step further than Joyce Meyer since he claims that he has **NEVER SINNED** and was **PERFECT** the moment he was saved and he did not receive many spiritual qualities in **INCREASING MEASURE ** after he was saved???
2 Peter 1:5-11: Make every effort to add to your faith (A free gift when you are saved-Ephesians 2:8} goodness, knowledge; and to knowledge, self-control; and to self-control, perseverance; and to perseverance, godliness; and to godliness, brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness, **LOVE** For if you possess these qualities in **INCREASING MEASURE**, they will keep you from being ineffective and unproductive in your knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. But if anyone does not have them, he is near sighted and blind, and has forgotten that he was cleansed of **HIS PAST SINS**! Therefore, my brothers, be all the more eager to make your calling and **ELECTION** sure and you will receive a **RICH WELCOME** into the **ETERNAL KINGDOM**of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!!
Satan's followers claim that there are **NO ETERNAL HEAVENLY REWARDS** for faithful and loving service and that we can only get earthly rewards???
**BUT WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY**??
**WE** fix our eyes **NOT ON WHAT IS SEEN**, but on what is **UNSEEN**, since what is seen is temporary, but what is **UNSEEN IS ETERNAL**!!
Revelation 22:12 Jesus says, �Behold I am coming soon! My **REWARD** is **WITH ME**, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done!�
Matthew 16:27: Jesus says, �The Son of Man is going to come in His Father's glory with His angels and **THEN** He will **REWARD** each person according to what he has done!�
Luke 11:33,34: Jesus says, "Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide purses for yourselves that will not wear out, a **TREASURE** IN HEAVEN** that will never fail, where no thief comes near and no moth destroys. For where your **TREASURE** is, there your **HEART** will be also!"
Luke 14:13,14: Jesus says, "When you give a banquet, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, the blind, and you will be **BLESSED**. Although they cannot repay you you will be **REPAID AT THE RESURRECTION** of the righteous!"
2 Corinthians 5:9,10: We make it our goal to please Him... for we must all appear before the Judgment seat of Christ, that each one may **RECEIVE WHAT IS DUE HIM** for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.
1 Corinthians 3:13-15: His work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each man's work. If what he has built survives, he will receive his **REWARD**. If it is burned up he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames.
I Corinthians 9:24-27: Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize. Everyone who competes in the games goes in to strict training. They do it to get a **CROWN** that will not last; but we do it to get a **CROWN THAT WILL LAST FOREVER**! Therefore I do not run like a man running aimlessly; I do not fight like a man beating the air. No, I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize!
Revelation 2:10 Jesus says, �Do not be afraid of what you are about to suffer... Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you the **CROWN OF LIFE**!�
Matthew 5:11,12: Jesus says, �Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your **REWARD** **IN HEAVEN**!�
Lies that christians are told by the self proclaiming pastors. # 1
Posted : 1 Dec, 2018 04:52 AM
False opinion 6.
"Now Adam7777 goes even on step further than Joyce Meyer since he claims that he has **NEVER SINNED** and was **PERFECT** the moment he was saved and he did not receive many spritual qualities in **INCREASING MEASURE ** after he was saved???
2 Peter 1:5-11: Make every effort to add to your faith (A free gift when you are saved-Ephesians 2:8} goodness, knowledge; and to knowledge, self-control; and to self-control, perseverance; and to perseverance, godliness; and to godliness, brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness, **LOVE** For if you possess these qualities in **INCREASING MEASURE**, they will keep you from being ineffective and unproductive in your knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. But if anyone does not have them, he is near sighted and blind, and has forgotten that he was cleansed of **HIS PAST SINS**! Therefore, my brothers, be all the more eager to make your calling and **ELECTION** sure and you will receive a **RICH WELCOME** into the **ETERNAL KINGDOM**of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ"
Prophetic says we need to repent and cant have Gods love perfected in us. Read 2 Peter 1:5-11 more carefully, AND WE SEE, we need these qualities ALREADY IN US, "But if anyone does not have them, he is near sighted and blind" because this reproof is to those who clearly DO NOT HAVE THESE QUALITIES. confirmed by the words here of abound meaning to have in large amounts..2 Peter 1:8 FOR IF THESE THINGS BE IN YOU, AND ABOUND, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Prophetic leaves off the important part of 2 Peter 1, Christ GAVE US ALL THINGS THAT PERTAIN UNTO GODLINESS, through the knowledge of Him that called us, to be part taker of His divine nature, escaping corruption of lust and BEING SANCTIFIED, MADE CLEAN, through His word and the receiving o the Holy Ghost. Who keeps His word,(walking in the love of God) verily and truly above prophetics mistaken opinions, they have the love of God PERFECTED IN THEM. We are called to love one another that the false prophetic shows he loves none but himself or can confess that Gods love IS PERFECTED IN US..
2 Peter 1:3 According as his divine power HATH GIVEN UNTO US ALL THINGS THAT PERTAIN UNTO LIFE AND GODLINESS, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:
4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, HAVING ESCAPED THE CORRUPTION THAT IS IN THE WORLD THROUGH LUST.
All do sin, it is falling short of the glory of God, and requires this change. Called, justified and glorified...
Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD;
Romans 8:30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and WHOM HE CALLED, THEM HE ALSO JUSTIFIED: and whom he justified, THEM HE ALSO GLORIFIED.
John 15:3 NOW YE ARE CLEAN THROUGH THE WORD THAT I HAVE SPOKEN UNTO YOU.
Hebrews 10:14 For by one offering he hath PERFECTED FOR EVER THEM THAT ARE SANCTIFIED.
1 Corinthians 6:11 And such were some of you: BUT YE ARE WASHED, BUT YE ARE SANCTIFIED, BUT YE ARE JUSTIFIED IN THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS AND BY THE SPIRIT OF OUR GOD.
Jude 1:1 Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, TO THEM THAT ARE SANCTIFIED BY GOD THE FATHER, AND PRESERVED IN JESUS CHRIST, AND CALLED:
2� Mercy unto you, and peace, and LOVE, BE MULTIPLIED.
1 John 2:5 But WHOSO KEEPETH HIS WORD, IN HIM VERILY IS THE LOVE OF GOD PERFECTED: hereby know we that we are in him.
1 John 4:12 No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, GOD DWELLETH IN US, AND HIS LOVE IS PERFECTED IN US
Colossians 4:12 Epaphras, who is one of you, a servant of Christ, saluteth you, always labouring fervently for you in prayers, that ye may STAND PERFECT AND COMPLETE IN ALL THE WILL OF GOD.
John 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
John 14:24 HE THAT LOVETH ME NOT KEEPETH NOT MY SAYINGS: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
Jude 1:21 KEEP YOURSELVES IN THE LOVE OF GOD, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
4 FOR IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR THOSE WHO WERE ONCE ENLIGHTENED, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
6 IF THEY SHALL FALL AWAY, TO RENEW THEM AGAIN UNTO REPENTANCE; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
Prophetic, "FORGOT" to include the ACTUAL commandment...
"Therefore, my brothers, be all the more eager to make your calling and **ELECTION** sure and you will receive a **RICH WELCOME** into the **ETERNAL KINGDOM**of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!! ""
2 Peter 1:10 Therefore, my brothers and sisters,[a] make every effort to confirm your calling and election. FOR IF YOU DO THESE THINGS YOU WILL NEVER STUMBLE, 11 and you will receive a rich welcome into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
Kjv says abound, niv only says increasing amounts. Being FILLED with the fruits of righteousness, this is love abounding(to have in large amounts) and increasing, not decreasing, after all this IS TO BE SINCERE AND WITHOUT OFFENCE TILL THE DAY OF CHRIST?
Philippians 1:9 And this I pray, that your LOVE MAY ABOUND YET MORE AND MORE IN KNOWLEDGE and in all judgment;
10 That ye may approve things that are excellent; THAT YE MAY BE BE SINCERE AND WITHOUT OFFENCE TILL THE DAY OF CHRIST.
11 BEING FILLED WITH THE FRUITS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS, which are by Jesus Christ, unto the glory and praise of God.
To increase and have in large amounts, (not like niv tries to say to increase amounts and not have in large amounts already) in love one toward another, to have your heart UNBLAMABLE in HOLINESS, (prepared and ready not without being ready as the devil preaches and wants)
1 Thessalonians 3:12 And the Lord MAKE YOU TO INCREASE AND ABOUND IN LOVE one toward another, and toward all men, EVEN AS WE DO TOWARD YOU:
13 To the end HE MAY STABLISH YOUR HEARTS UNBLAMABLE IN HOLINESS before God, even our Father AT THE COMING OF OUR Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints.
Here the niv shows what it MISSED in its translation of ABOUND in the kjv. Read and see it is admitting that ABOUND IS OVERFLOW, SO IN 2 Peter 1:8 it should have shown that these things need to be in us overflowing, abounding, in us in large amounts, as that is DOING THEM..
1 Thessalonians 3:11 Now may our God and Father himself and our Lord Jesus clear the way for us to come to you. 12 May the Lord MAKE YOUR LOVE INCREASE AND OVERFLOW for each other and for everyone else, JUST AS OURS DOES FOR YOU. 13 May he strengthen your hearts SO THAT YOU WILL BE BLAMELESS AND HOLY in the presence of our God and Father when our Lord Jesus comes with all his holy ones.
John 10:20 And many of them said, He hath a devil, and is mad; why hear ye him?
John 10:21 Others said, These are not the words of him that hath a devil. Can a devil open the eyes of the blind?
Lies that christians are told by the self proclaiming pastors. # 1
Posted : 1 Dec, 2018 05:11 AM
**There are over 400 New Covenant commandments in the New Testament. About 300 **DO'S** and about **100 DO'NTS and breaking even one of these 400 New Covenant Commandments is a **SIN** that must be repented of and forgiven!!
Some of these commandments are mentioned below:
Anyone who looks at a women with lust has committed **ADULTERY**! Matthew 5:27,28: Jesus says, "You have heard that it was said , 'Do not commit adultery." But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery in his heart!" {This of course would include pictures or movies of woman like in porn!}
Hebrews 4:12,13: The Word of God is living and active, sharper than any double edged sword... It judges the **THOUGHTS** and attitudes of the heart. Nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight. **EVERYTHING** is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of Him to whom we must give account!
I Corinthians 11:4,5,14-16 Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head. But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head.... If a man has long hair it is a **DISGRACE** to him! {This would include a long beard!} But if a woman has long hair it is her glory! If anyone wants to be contentious about this, we have no other practice--nor do the churches of God. {Unfortunately there are many sinful artists who make pictures and sculptures that show a sinful Jesus with **LONG HAIR**???}
I Timothy 2:9-11: I also want women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, adorning themselves not with **BRAIDED HAIR** or **GOLD** {Including all rings} or **PEARLS** or **EXPENSIVE CLOTHES**, but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God! A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to **TEACH** or have authority over a **MAN**, she must be quiet!
I Corinthians 14:34,35: Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their husbands at home; for it is **DISGRACEFUL FOR A WOMAN TO SPEAK IN THE CHURCH**!!
Joyce Meyer who is the only well known preacher that is so conceited that she proudly claims that she **NEVER SINS ANYMORE** has committed the above sins thousands of times and has never repented of her terrible sins!!
I Thessalonians 5:14-18: We urge you brothers, warn those who are idle, encourage the timid, **HELP THE WEAK**, be patient with everyone. Make sure that nobody pays back wrong for wrong, but always try to be kind to everyone else. Be **JOYFUL ALWAYS**, **PRAY CONTINUALLY**; give thanks in **ALL CIRCUMSTANCES**, for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus!!
I John 2:5,6: Whoever claims to live in Him **MUST** LIVE AS JESUS DID**!
I John 1:8-10: If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the **TRUTH IS NOT IN US**! If we **CONFESS OUR SINS**, He is faithful and just and will **FORGIVE US OUR SINS** and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned {Like Adam7777} we make Him out to be a liar and **HIS WORD IS NOT IN US**!!
Luke 11:1-4: One of His disciples asked Jesus, "Lord, teach us to pray!" Jesus says, "When you pray, say: "'Father, hallowed be your name, your Kingdom come. Give us each day our daily bread, **FORGIVE US OUR SINS**, for we also forgive everyone who sins against us!!" {Satan's followers like Adam7777 and Joyce Meyer and Satan will never repent of their sins or ask forgiveness for their sins since they claim that they **NEVER SIN ANY MORE**??}
I John 2:3-5: We know we have come to know Him {Jesus} if we obey His commands. The man who says, "I know Him," but does not do what He commands is a liar and the truth is not in him. But if anyone **OBEYS HIS WORD**, God's love is truly made complete in him! {Adam7777 refuses to obey the command of Jesus in Luke 11:1-4!! above}
Matthew 4:4: Jesus says, "Man does not live on bread alone, but on **EVERY WORD FROM THE MOUTH OF GOD**!"
Galatians 6:1: Brothers, if someone is caught in a sin, you who are spiritual should restore him gently. But watch yourself, or you may also be tempted. Carry each others burdens, and in this way you fulfill the law of Christ!!
James 5:16: **CONFESS YOUR SINS** to each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous man is powerful and effective!!
Revelation 3:19: Jesus says, "Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline, so be earnest and repent!!"
Hebrews 12:5-11: Do not make light of the Lord's discipline, and do not lose heart when He rebukes you, because the Lord disciplines those He loves, and **HE CHASTENS **EVERYONE** He accepts as His son! Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as His children. For what children are not disciplined by their father? **IF YOU ARE NOT DISCIPLINED--AND**EVERYONE UNDERGOES DISCIPLINE--THEN YOU ARE **NOT LEGITIMATE**, not true sons and daughters at all. Moreover, we have all had human fathers who disciplined us and we respected them for it. How much more should we submit to the Father of spirits and live! They disciplined us for a little while as they thought best; but God disciplines us for our good, in order that we may share in His holiness. No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it!
Now Adam7777 goes even on step further than Joyce Meyer since he claims that he has **NEVER SINNED** and was **PERFECT** the moment he was saved and he did not receive many spiritual qualities in **INCREASING MEASURE ** after he was saved???
2 Peter 1:5-11: Make every effort to add to your faith (A free gift when you are saved-Ephesians 2:8} goodness, knowledge; and to knowledge, self-control; and to self-control, perseverance; and to perseverance, godliness; and to godliness, brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness, **LOVE** For if you possess these qualities in **INCREASING MEASURE**, they will keep you from being ineffective and unproductive in your knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. But if anyone does not have them, he is near sighted and blind, and has forgotten that he was cleansed of **HIS PAST SINS**! Therefore, my brothers, be all the more eager to make your calling and **ELECTION** sure and you will receive a **RICH WELCOME** into the **ETERNAL KINGDOM**of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!!
Satan's followers claim that there are **NO ETERNAL HEAVENLY REWARDS** for faithful and loving service and that we can only get earthly rewards???
**BUT WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY**??
**WE** fix our eyes **NOT ON WHAT IS SEEN**, but on what is **UNSEEN**, since what is seen is temporary, but what is **UNSEEN IS ETERNAL**!!
Revelation 22:12 Jesus says, �Behold I am coming soon! My **REWARD** is **WITH ME**, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done!�
Matthew 16:27: Jesus says, �The Son of Man is going to come in His Father's glory with His angels and **THEN** He will **REWARD** each person according to what he has done!�
Luke 11:33,34: Jesus says, "Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide purses for yourselves that will not wear out, a **TREASURE** IN HEAVEN** that will never fail, where no thief comes near and no moth destroys. For where your **TREASURE** is, there your **HEART** will be also!"
Luke 14:13,14: Jesus says, "When you give a banquet, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, the blind, and you will be **BLESSED**. Although they cannot repay you you will be **REPAID AT THE RESURRECTION** of the righteous!"
2 Corinthians 5:9,10: We make it our goal to please Him... for we must all appear before the Judgment seat of Christ, that each one may **RECEIVE WHAT IS DUE HIM** for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.
1 Corinthians 3:13-15: His work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each man's work. If what he has built survives, he will receive his **REWARD**. If it is burned up he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames.
I Corinthians 9:24-27: Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize. Everyone who competes in the games goes in to strict training. They do it to get a **CROWN** that will not last; but we do it to get a **CROWN THAT WILL LAST FOREVER**! Therefore I do not run like a man running aimlessly; I do not fight like a man beating the air. No, I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize!
Revelation 2:10 Jesus says, �Do not be afraid of what you are about to suffer... Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you the **CROWN OF LIFE**!�
Matthew 5:11,12: Jesus says, �Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your **REWARD** **IN HEAVEN**!�
I John 2:3-5: We know we have come to know Him {Jesus} if we obey His commands. The man who says, "I know Him," but does not do what He commands is a liar and the truth is not in him. But if anyone **OBEYS HIS WORD**, God's love is truly made complete in him!
**ADAM7777 REFUSES TO TEACH THAT WE CAN EARN ETERNAL HEAVENLY REWARDS FOR FAITHFUL AND LOVING SERVICE WHICH IS TAUGHT BY OVER 30 PASSAGES IN GOD'S WORD**
Matthew 4:4: Jesus says, "Man does not live on bread alone, but on **EVERY WORD FROM THE MOUTH OF GOD**!"
Lies that christians are told by the self proclaiming pastors. # 1
Posted : 2 Dec, 2018 04:11 AM
False opinion 6.
"Now Adam7777 goes even on step further than Joyce Meyer since he claims that he has **NEVER SINNED** and was **PERFECT** the moment he was saved and he did not receive many spritual qualities in **INCREASING MEASURE ** after he was saved??? "
2 Peter 1:5-11: Make every effort to add to your faith (A free gift when you are saved-Ephesians 2:8} goodness, knowledge; and to knowledge, self-control; and to self-control, perseverance; and to perseverance, godliness; and to godliness, brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness, **LOVE** For if you possess these qualities in **INCREASING MEASURE**, they will keep you from being ineffective and unproductive in your knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. But if anyone does not have them, he is near sighted and blind, and has forgotten that he was cleansed of **HIS PAST SINS**! Therefore, my brothers, be all the more eager to make your calling and **ELECTION** sure and you will receive a **RICH WELCOME** into the **ETERNAL KINGDOM**of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ"
Prophetic says we need to repent and cant have Gods love perfected in us. Read 2 Peter 1:5-11 more carefully, AND WE SEE, we need these qualities ALREADY IN US, "But if anyone does not have them, he is near sighted and blind" because this reproof is to those who clearly DO NOT HAVE THESE QUALITIES. confirmed by the words here of abound meaning to have in large amounts..2 Peter 1:8 FOR IF THESE THINGS BE IN YOU, AND ABOUND, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Prophetic leaves off the important part of 2 Peter 1, Christ GAVE US ALL THINGS THAT PERTAIN UNTO GODLINESS, through the knowledge of Him that called us, to be part taker of His divine nature, escaping corruption of lust and BEING SANCTIFIED, MADE CLEAN, through His word and the receiving o the Holy Ghost. Who keeps His word,(walking in the love of God) verily and truly above prophetics mistaken opinions, they have the love of God PERFECTED IN THEM. We are called to love one another that the false prophetic shows he loves none but himself or can confess that Gods love IS PERFECTED IN US..
2 Peter 1:3 According as his divine power HATH GIVEN UNTO US ALL THINGS THAT PERTAIN UNTO LIFE AND GODLINESS, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:
4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, HAVING ESCAPED THE CORRUPTION THAT IS IN THE WORLD THROUGH LUST.
All do sin, it is falling short of the glory of God, and requires this change. Called, justified and glorified...
Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD;
Romans 8:30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and WHOM HE CALLED, THEM HE ALSO JUSTIFIED: and whom he justified, THEM HE ALSO GLORIFIED.
John 15:3 NOW YE ARE CLEAN THROUGH THE WORD THAT I HAVE SPOKEN UNTO YOU.
Hebrews 10:14 For by one offering he hath PERFECTED FOR EVER THEM THAT ARE SANCTIFIED.
1 Corinthians 6:11 And such were some of you: BUT YE ARE WASHED, BUT YE ARE SANCTIFIED, BUT YE ARE JUSTIFIED IN THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS AND BY THE SPIRIT OF OUR GOD.
Jude 1:1 Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, TO THEM THAT ARE SANCTIFIED BY GOD THE FATHER, AND PRESERVED IN JESUS CHRIST, AND CALLED:
2� Mercy unto you, and peace, and LOVE, BE MULTIPLIED.
1 John 2:5 But WHOSO KEEPETH HIS WORD, IN HIM VERILY IS THE LOVE OF GOD PERFECTED: hereby know we that we are in him.
1 John 4:12 No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, GOD DWELLETH IN US, AND HIS LOVE IS PERFECTED IN US
Colossians 4:12 Epaphras, who is one of you, a servant of Christ, saluteth you, always labouring fervently for you in prayers, that ye may STAND PERFECT AND COMPLETE IN ALL THE WILL OF GOD.
John 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
John 14:24 HE THAT LOVETH ME NOT KEEPETH NOT MY SAYINGS: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
Jude 1:21 KEEP YOURSELVES IN THE LOVE OF GOD, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
4 FOR IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR THOSE WHO WERE ONCE ENLIGHTENED, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
6 IF THEY SHALL FALL AWAY, TO RENEW THEM AGAIN UNTO REPENTANCE; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
Prophetic, "FORGOT" to include the ACTUAL commandment...
"Therefore, my brothers, be all the more eager to make your calling and **ELECTION** sure and you will receive a **RICH WELCOME** into the **ETERNAL KINGDOM**of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!! ""
2 Peter 1:10 Therefore, my brothers and sisters,[a] make every effort to confirm your calling and election. FOR IF YOU DO THESE THINGS YOU WILL NEVER STUMBLE, 11 and you will receive a rich welcome into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
Kjv says abound, niv only says increasing amounts. Being FILLED with the fruits of righteousness, this is love abounding(to have in large amounts) and increasing, not decreasing, after all this IS TO BE SINCERE AND WITHOUT OFFENCE TILL THE DAY OF CHRIST?
Philippians 1:9 And this I pray, that your LOVE MAY ABOUND YET MORE AND MORE IN KNOWLEDGE and in all judgment;
10 That ye may approve things that are excellent; THAT YE MAY BE BE SINCERE AND WITHOUT OFFENCE TILL THE DAY OF CHRIST.
11 BEING FILLED WITH THE FRUITS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS, which are by Jesus Christ, unto the glory and praise of God.
To increase and have in large amounts, (not like niv tries to say to increase amounts and not have in large amounts already) in love one toward another, to have your heart UNBLAMABLE in HOLINESS, (prepared and ready not without being ready as the devil preaches and wants)
1 Thessalonians 3:12 And the Lord MAKE YOU TO INCREASE AND ABOUND IN LOVE one toward another, and toward all men, EVEN AS WE DO TOWARD YOU:
13 To the end HE MAY STABLISH YOUR HEARTS UNBLAMABLE IN HOLINESS before God, even our Father AT THE COMING OF OUR Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints.
Here the niv shows what it MISSED in its translation of ABOUND in the kjv. Read and see it is admitting that ABOUND IS OVERFLOW, SO IN 2 Peter 1:8 it should have shown that these things need to be in us overflowing, abounding, in us in large amounts, as that is DOING THEM..
1 Thessalonians 3:11 Now may our God and Father himself and our Lord Jesus clear the way for us to come to you. 12 May the Lord MAKE YOUR LOVE INCREASE AND OVERFLOW for each other and for everyone else, JUST AS OURS DOES FOR YOU. 13 May he strengthen your hearts SO THAT YOU WILL BE BLAMELESS AND HOLY in the presence of our God and Father when our Lord Jesus comes with all his holy ones.
Even praise and glory of men is treasure on earth, when we seek in secret from the Lord, not broadcasting, that is treasure in Heaven, which clearly is within us not on earth. SALVATION CLEARLY IS NOT GIVEN WHEN THERE IS NO REWARD, AND REWARD IS THEREFORE SALVATION..
Matthew 6:1 TAKE HEED that ye DO NOT your alms BEFORE MEN, TO BE SEEN OF THEM: OTHERWISE YOU HAVE NO REWARD of your Father which is in heaven.
Matthew 6:16 Moreover when ye fast, BE NOT, as the HYPOCRITES, of a sad countenance: for they disfigure their faces, THAT THEY APPEAR UNTO MEN TO FAST. Verily I say unto you, THEY HAVE THEIR REWARD.
17 But thou, when thou fastest, anoint thine head, and wash thy face;
18 THAT THOU APPEAR NOT UNTO MEN TO FAST, but unto thy Father which is in secret: and thy Father, which seeth in secret, shall reward thee openly.
19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
Lies that christians are told by the self proclaiming pastors. # 1
Posted : 2 Dec, 2018 05:16 AM
AMEN!! Repentance leading to faith for salvation is the **FREE GIFT OF GOD**!!
Titus 3:3,4: At one time we too were foolish, disobedient, deceived and enslaved by all kinds of passions and pleasures. We lived in malice and envy, being hated and hating one another. But when the kindness and **LOVE** of God our Savior appeared , He saved us, **NOT BECAUSE OF RIGHTEOUS THINGS WE HAD DONE**, but because of **HIS MERCY**!!
Romans 2:4: Do you show contempt for the riches of **HIS KINDNESS**, forbearing and patience, not realizing that **GOD'S KINDNESS** is intended to lead you to **REPENTANCE?
John 6:37,39,44,65: Jesus says, "**ALL** that the Father gives Me **WILL** come to Me, and whoever comes to Me I will **NEVER** drive away... And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that I shall **LOSE NONE** of all that He has given Me, but raise them up at the Last Day.... No one can come to Me **UNLESS** the Father who sent Me **DRAWS HIM**, and I will raise him up at the Last Day!!... No one can come to Me **UNLESS** the Father has **ENABLED THEM**!!"
Ephesians 2:8,9: For it is by **GRACE** you have been saved, through **FAITH**�and this **NOT FROM YOURSELVES**, it is the **GIFT OF GOD**�not by works. So that no one can boast. For we are **GOD'S WORKMANSHIP**, created in Christ Jesus to do **GOOD WORKS**, which God prepared in advance for us to do!
Romans 9:15,16,18: God says, "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion." It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God's mercy...Therefore God has mercy on whom He wants to have mercy, and He hardens whom He wants to harden. {But God's saints still preach God's Word to everyone}
Revelation 17:14: They will make war against the **LAMB** but the **LAMB** will overcome them because He is **LORD** of lords and **KING** of kings and with Him will be His **CALLED** **CHOSEN** and **FAITHFUL** followers!! {Riding on white horses right after the Marriage Feast of the **LAMB** as per Revelation 19:7-20!}
**HOWEVER**: **AFTER THEY ARE SAVED BELIEVERS ARE RESPONSIBLE TO SINCERELY REPENT OF AND ASK FORGIVENESS FOR THEIR SINS** in order to keep in a close relationship with the Lord and to gain Eternal Heavenly **REWARDS** for their faithful and loving service!!
Revelation 3:3;19,20: Jesus says to the church in Sardis, "Remember, therefore, what you have received and heard; hold it fast, and **REPENT**!"... Those whom I love, I rebuke and discipline, so be earnest and **REPENT**. Here I am. I stand at the door and knock!"
John 1:8-10: If we claim to be without sin {Like Joyce Meyer and Adam7777}, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. **IF WE CLAIM WE HAVE NOT SINNED {Like Adam7777} WE MAKE HIM OUT TO BE A LIAR AND HIS WORD IS NOT IN US**!!
Luke 11:1-4: The **DISCIPLES** asked Jesus, "Lord teach as to pray." Jesus replied **TO HIS DISCIPLES**, "When you pray, say: '**FATHER**, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come. Give us each day our **DAILY** bread. **FORGIVE US OUR SINS**, for we also forgive everyone who sins against us!'" {Adam7777, Joyce Meyer and Satan refuse to ask forgiveness for their sins!}
2 Corinthians 5:9,10: We make it our goal to please Him... for we must all appear before the Judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive what is due him for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.
1 Corinthians 3:13-15: His work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each man's work. If what he has built survives, he will receive his **REWARD**. If it is burned up he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames.
I Corinthians 9:24-27: Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize. Everyone who competes in the games goes in to strict training. They do it to get a **CROWN** that will not last; but we do it to get a **CROWN THAT WILL LAST FOREVER**! Therefore I do not run like a man running aimlessly; I do not fight like a man beating the air. No, I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize!
