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Psalm 12 verses 1 - 8 ( We will look at verses 6-7 )
Posted : 16 Feb, 2020 07:39 AM

I remember a person once told me that Psalm 12 verses 6 - 7 showed that GOD Almighty would preserve- keep the KJVee translation forever.

The problem with this is the Word of GOD Almighty is spirit, and must be understood spiritually.

Will the original manuscripts of the kjvee be next to the two tablets of the instructions of GOD Almighty inside of the ark of the covenant.



What would happen if we placed verse 6 where verse 7 is and vice versa, would that give a more clearer understanding of what is meant.

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Psalm 12 verses 1 - 8 ( We will look at verses 6-7 )
Posted : 19 Feb, 2020 07:20 AM

}**WE ARE ALL WAITING FOR THE NEW HEAVEN THE NEW EARTH AND THE ETERNAL NEW JERUSALEM**!!



**IS IT AN UNPARDONABLE SIN TO **ADD WORDS** OR TO **TAKE WORDS AWAY** FROM THE BOOK OF REVEATION**??



Hebrews 12:26-28: God says, "Once more I will shake not only the earth but also the heavens. The words "once more" indicate the removing of what can be shaken--that is created things--so that what cannot be shaken may remain. Therefore, since we are receiving a *KINGDOM* that can not be shaken let us be thankful...for our God is a consuming fire!



2 Peter 3:10-13: But the Day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will DISAPPEAR with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and *EVERYTHING* in it will be burned up {NIV}. Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives as you {**CHURCH SAINTS*} wait eagerly for the Day of God to come. {NIV} That Day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. But in keeping with His promise **WE** {Excluding the Preterists and the RC church} are looking forward to a New heavens and a New Earth, the home of righteousness.



I Corinthians 15:50--51: I declare to you brothers, that flesh and blood CANNOT INHERIT the *KINGDOM OF GOD*... Listen I tell you a mystery: we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed, in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet."



John 18:36: Jesus says, "My *KINGDOM* is not of this world....But now, my Kingdom is from another place!!"



Matthew 25:31-34: Jesus says, "When the Son of Man comes in His glory , and all the angels with Him, He will sit on His throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate the people one from another..He will put the sheep on the right and the goats on His left. Then the King will say to those on His right, "Come you who are blessed of My Father, take your inheritance, the *KINGDOM* prepared for you!!"



**WE** ARE ALL WAITING FOR THE NEW EARTH, THE NEW HEAVENS AND THE HEAVENLY NEW JERUSALEM!!



Revelation 21:1-5: Then I saw a New heaven and a New Earth, for the {present} first heaven and first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. I saw the Holy City, the **NEW JERUSALEM**, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Now the dwelling of God is with men, and He will live with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them and be their God. He will wipe every tear from their eyes, There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away." He who was seated on the throne said, "I am making **EVERYTHING NEW**!" Then He said, "Write this down, for these words are TRUSTWORTHY and TRUE!"



Hebrews 11:13-16: All these people {Abraham, Sarah Isaac, Jacob, Noah etc} were still living by faith when they died. They did not receive the things promised; they only saw them from a distance. And they admitted that they were aliens and strangers on earth. People who say such things show they are looking for a country of their own. If they had been thinking of the country they had left, they would have had opportunity to return. Instead, they were looking for a BETTER COUNTRY--a HEAVENLY ONE. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared a *CITY* (The *NEW JERUSALEM*} for them!!



Galatians 4:25,26: Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem, because she is in slavery with her children. But the **JERUSALEM** that is **ABOVE** is free, and she is our MOTHER !!



The New Jerusaem is described in Revelation 21:9 to Revelation 22:5. The New Jerusalem will be 12,000 stadia long, high and wide as per Revelation 21:16. A stadia is 606 feet long which is the exact same length as the ancient Greek stadium. 606 feet times 12,000 equals 7,272,000 feet which is 1377 miles plus 1,440 feet. A mile is exactly 5,280 feet. {1377 times 5,280 feet equal 7,270,560 feet.} And so the New Jerusalem will be exactly 1377 miles plus 1,440 feet long, wide and high!!



Revelation 21:9-12,15-16,19,23,27; Revelation 22:1-6: The angel said to John, “Come, I will show you the Bride the Wife of the Lamb.” And he carried me away in the Spirit to a mountain great and high, and showed me the Holy City, Jerusalem, coming down out of Heaven from from God It shone like the glory of God, and its brilliance was like that of a very precious jewel. It had a great high wall {1377 miles plus 1,440 feet HIGH!} with 12 gates, and with 12 angels at the gates.



The angel who talked with me had a measuring rod of gold to measure the City, its gates and its walls. The City was laid out like a square, as long as it was wide. He measured the City with the rod and found it to be 12,000 stadia {A Stadia is exactly 606 feet} in length, and as wide and high as it is long. {1377 miles plus 1,440 feet long, wide and high} The wall was made of Jasper, and the City of pure gold, as pure as glass. The foundations of the city walls were decorated with every kind of precious stone....... The great street of the City was of pure gold, like transparent glass...... Only those written in the Lamb's Book of Life will be able to enter the New Jerusalem!



Then the angel showed me the river of the Water of Life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and the Lamb {Jesus} down the middle of the great street of the City. On each side of the river stood the Tree of Life, bearing 12 crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month... The throne of God and of the **LAMB** will be in the City, and his servants will serve Him. They will see His face and His name will be on their foreheads. There will be no more night!! They will not need the light of the lamp or the light of the sun, for the Lord God will give them light. And they will reign **FOR EVER AND EVER**. The angel said to me, “These words are TRUSTWORTHY and TRUE!!”



JESUS WILL WRITE ON US THE NAME OF THE CITY OF GOD THE **NEW JERUSALEM**!!



Revelation 2:18; 3:12,21: Jesus says, "To him who overcomes I will give him a white stone with a new name written on it, known only to him who receives it... I will write on him the name of the City of My God, the **NEW JERUSALEM**, which is coming down out of heaven from My God....And I will give the right to sit with Me on My throne, just as I overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne."



According to Revelation 22:3 the only 2 thrones in the **NEW JERUSALEM** will be the thrones of the **FATHER** and of the **LAMB** Jesus Christ.



IS IT AN UNPARDONABLE SIN TO **ADD** OR **TAKE WORDS AWAY** FROM THE PROPHECIES IN REVELATION**??



**Everything in the Book of Revelation was **WRITTEN BY JESUS** since He told his angel what to inspire John to write as per Revelation 22:16 below!

Revelation 22:16-19: "I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony **FOR THE CHURCHES**. I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book. If anyone **ADDS** anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this book {Including Eternal Hell in Rev 14:9-11}. And if anyone **TAKES WORDS AWAY** from this book of prophesy {Like the Preterists and the Roman Catholic Church} God will take away from that person any share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The New Jerusalem}, which are described in this book!"



Revelation tells of our **ETERNAL HOME, THE NEW JERUSALEM** which will be 12,000 stadia or 1377 miles long, high and wide with its ** NEW HEAVENS** and a NEW EARTH** Jesus promised it would be an **UNPARDONABLE SIN** To **ADD WORDS** or **TAKE WORDS AWAY** from the book of Revelation. However, there are some who believe only in a **EARTHLY KINGDOM**!!



There are some who teach that our ETERNAL HOME THE NEW JERUSALEM WITH ITS NEW HEAVEN AND NEW EARTH IS JUST SYMBOLIC and will not take place in the future. This would include the Preterists who believe in an earthly Kingdom and that all the future prophecies in the book of Revelation and in the Olivet teaching of Jesus in Matthew 24,25, Mark 13 and Luke 21 were totally completed in AD 70.



Did you know that Martin Luther did not believe that the books of James and Revelation were not part of God's Word?? And John Calvin wrote his famous institutes of God's Word which included every book in our present Bible and **DID NOT INCLUDE THE BOOK OF REVELATION.??? Presently the Roman Catholic, Lutheran and Calvinistic churches claim that Revelation is part of God's Word.



However, most Lutheran and Calvinistic Churches such as the Christian Reformed, the Protestant Reformed and Orthodox Presbyterian churches have a completely symbolic view of Revelation and rarely even mention the words of Revelation in any of their sermons. And the Roman Catholic church only believe in a future Earthly Kingdom which will be ruled by Roman Catholic Popes.

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Psalm 12 verses 1 - 8 ( We will look at verses 6-7 )
Posted : 21 Feb, 2020 10:52 AM

Soooo what is this FINE thread all about? What did we learn other than "student Quiznos" putting down fellow Christian KJVonly with his "christian" love of her? Of course "ha Chuck" chimes right in and says.....



"ha Chuck" writes,



"The words of the LORD are pure words....." Psalm 12 should be understood in its original context: "The Torah" and furthermore what G-D speaks is pure and will be preserved. Period." end quote.



I don't know of one Christian that does not know all of Father's WORDS are pure in the Bible and further more the first 5 books of the Bible, which IS THE Torah that is also pure and preserved in the Bible today! Oh and CERTAINLY understood in its original context!!! So what is "ha Chuck's" point other than to TEACH what we already know! LMBO! Is this smack down clown of

Christianity for real???



"ha Chuck" also writes,



"I never said Paul was a false apostle. I said even though I could make a case Paul was a false apostle. Gentiles misunderstand his writings." end quote.



Did you get all that political double talk friends? One moment Paul is not a "false apostle" and THEN master teacher "ha Chuck" claims by his gifted expertise, that he "could make a case Paul was a false apostle" in his self righteous "spirit" mind! LMBO! Is this political clown for real or what?



All of us "Gentile" Christians understand Paul's writings perfectly, its just ha Chuck imagination and hallucinations of what he thinks Christians understand, is the REAL problem in his own head! Wow! Self righteous much?

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