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Here are some reasons why Christian’s fail to obey 1 Corinthians 1:10
Posted : 23 Feb, 2024 05:52 PM

1 Corinthians 1:10 says, “I appeal to you, brothers and sisters, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another in what you say and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly united in mind and thought.”



There are many reasons Christians fail to agree. The author gives some reasons here.



Logical Fallacies



Andreas Köstenberger

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Logic (from the Greek word logos, "reason") is the "science that deals with the principles and criteria of validity of inference and demonstration, the science of the formal principles of reasoning" (Merriam-Webster). While theology, as the study of God, transcends mere logic, it is reasonable to expect that Scripture adheres to common principles of reasoning. Properly used, logic derives true propositions from other true propositions. Even though Scripture may not explicitly state a given truth, we may make true statements that have Scripture's authority behind them if they are properly derived from what Scripture does say following principles of logical reasoning.



A basic understanding of the rules of logic is crucial to sound hermeneutics. Logical fallacies, both formal and informal, are found in every field of study, and biblical exegesis is no exception. In what follows, I will provide examples of some of the most common logical fallacies encountered in biblical studies. They are: (1) false disjunctions, (2) appeals to selective evidence, (3) unwarranted associative jumps, (4) improperly handled syllogisms, (5) false statements, and (6) non sequiturs.



False disjunctions are made when an argument is presented in an either or fashion: either A or B is true, but not both. However, there are times when the answer is "both/and" rather than "either/or." Take the relationship between Galatians 3:28 and 1 Timothy 2:12, for example. It is at times claimed that Paul's assertion in Galatians 3 that in Christ there is "no male and female" eradicates all gender-related distinctions with regard to church ministry, so that the prohibition of women teaching or exercising authority over men in the church in 1 Timothy 2 must be explained as a culturally relative injunction. Both— undifferentiated male-female equality in Christ and limiting authoritative local church offices to men—cannot be true, it is said (or at least implied), so the latter principle must be relativized in such a way that it fits with the former. However, this kind of disjunctive thinking is fallacious. Since 1 Timothy 2:12 is grounded in creation's design and, conversely, the scenario at the fall (vv. 13–14), the passage cannot easily be set aside as culturally bound. More promising is the explanation that Galatians 3:28, in affirming the irrelevance of male-female distinctions with regard to salvation in Christ, is not seeking to address male-female roles in the church at all, so that the passages are pertaining to different (albeit related) topics. Both affirmations are true: men and women are indiscriminately saved by grace through faith in Christ, and the office of elder/overseer is reserved in Scripture for men in keeping with God's creation design.



Appeals to selective evidence are numerous. By definition, we engage in this logical fallacy anytime we only refer to authorities or passages that agree with us on a given issue while failing to account for countervailing evidence or authorities. A specific example comes from the "name it and claim it" theology. In circles that embrace this sort of thinking, it is common to cite Scripture passages that promise answers to prayer for "whatever you ask." For example, in John 14:13–14 Jesus says: "Whatever you ask in my name, this I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If you ask me anything in my name, I will do it." At other times, Scripture stresses the need for faith on the part of the one who prays (Heb. 11:6; James 1:6). However, people can sustain the name-it-and-claim- it approach only by selective use of evidence while ignoring other passages that put certain constraints on the kinds of prayers God will answer: prayers of disciples who take up their cross and follow Jesus, prayers asking for resources to carry out God's mission in the world, and so on. Such proponents also tend to ignore the mystery of suffering (see, for example, Jesus' comments in Luke 13:1–6), fail to explain why God answers certain prayers but not others (such as for the salvation of loved ones), and neglect to point out that there is no scriptural guarantee that God will answer all prayers for healing.



Unwarranted associative jumps, likewise, are treacherous and lurk at every turn. D.A. Carson, in his excellent book Exegetical Fallacies, cites the classic example of Paul's statement in Philippians 4:13, "I can do all things through him who strengthens me." All things? As Carson rightly points out, Paul's statement cannot be legitimately extended to such things as jumping over the moon, integrating complex mathematical equations in one's head, or turning sand into gold.



Certain constraints are brought to bear by the context of Paul's statement in his letter to the Philippians, most importantly the importance of contentment and of being able to deal with both poverty and wealth. Another common example of an associative jump is taking 2 Chronicles 7:14 ("If my people who are called by my name humble themselves . . . ") as directly applying to modern-day democracies when the original point of reference was to Israel as a theocracy.



Improperly handled syllogisms are very common as well. An example of a two-step argument for women serving authoritatively in the church based on the application of the term co-worker (Greek synergos) to both Timothy (Rom. 16:21) and women such as Euodia and Syntyche (Phil. 4:2–3) might look as follows:



Syllogism No. 1:



Timothy is a co-worker of Paul.

Timothy functioned authoritatively in the church.

Therefore, all co-workers of Paul functioned authoritatively in the church.

Syllogism No. 2:



Euodia and Syntyche are co-workers of Paul.

All co-workers of Paul functioned authoritatively in the church (the conclusion of the first syllogism).

Therefore, Euodia and Syntyche functioned authoritatively in the church.

However, there are several problems with this kind of reasoning. Most importantly, the first syllogism is invalid: the conclusion does not properly follow from the premises. That is, if one were to say (1) some A is B and (2) all B is C, then one cannot from these premises categorically conclude that (3) all A is C.



At best, one could seek to work inductively and contend that there is a strong likelihood that all co-workers of Paul functioned (or could function) authoritatively in the church. However, this would be a difficult case to prove, because contextual study of the relevant passages suggests that co-worker in the New Testament is a more flexible term that may indicate various forms of partnership, whether joint ministry, financial support, or other ways of collaboration. In any case, our point here is that arguments based on syllogisms, while common and often having surface appeal, may turn out at closer scrutiny to be fallacious and unsustainable.



False statements are also quite common, though perhaps this category would better be labeled "the use of faulty premises." This fallacy may also be related to the just-mentioned faulty use of syllogisms. Remember, even if a syllogism is formally valid, as we have seen, the conclusion may still be false if one or both of the premises are faulty. An example of this is the common manner of citing Proverbs 29:18: "Where there is no vision, the people perish," with vision being used to indicate a leader's or group's forward-looking plans, desires, and expectations instead of the prophetic revelation that seems to be in view here. This is wisely brought out by the ESV translation of the verse: "Where there is no prophetic vision the people cast off restraint" (emphasis added).



While I could continue, I'll close with one of my favorite categories, that of non sequiturs (Latin for "does not [logically] follow"). Many examples could be given, but perhaps most common under this rubric are illegitimate arguments from silence. For example, consider the not-uncommon assertion that the reason why Mark and John don't mention the virgin birth is that they either didn't know about it or, if they did, didn't believe in it. This clearly doesn't follow logically and is both a non sequitur and an illegitimate argument from silence. What about other reasons, such as Mark's desire for concision or John's reference to Jesus' eternal preexistence as the Son of God?



Even more importantly, I'd love to have a nickel for every time I've heard the argument that because Jesus never explicitly addressed the subject of homosexuality, we can safely surmise that He condoned such a practice. This assertion, of course, overlooks the fact that Jesus unequivocally stated, "Have you not read that he who created them [the man and the woman] from the beginning made them male and female, and said, 'Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh?'" (Matt. 19:4–5). It is hard to infer from this strong affirmation of heterosexual marriage that Jesus condoned same-sex marriage.



These examples highlight the importance of engaging in proper logical reasoning when interpreting Scripture. I don't have space to address numerous other fallacies here, such as those related to emotive appeals, cavalier dismissals, improper analogies, simplistic appeals to authority, fallacies based on equivocal argumentation, and the improper use of obviously and similar expressions. Suffice it to say that every worker who truly desires God's approval in his handling of Scripture (2 Tim. 2:15) will do well to apply himself earnestly to sound principles of logic and proper reasoning.

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Here are some reasons why Christian’s fail to obey 1 Corinthians 1:10
Posted : 24 Feb, 2024 09:00 AM

That all makes my brain hurt.

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Here are some reasons why Christian’s fail to obey 1 Corinthians 1:10
Posted : 24 Feb, 2024 03:31 PM

😃🤣😇



Does mine too

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Here are some reasons why Christian’s fail to obey 1 Corinthians 1:10
Posted : 24 Feb, 2024 03:41 PM

I like logic but sometimes it’s just plain hard to learn.



I got interested in logic when an atheist tried to tell me,“there’s no such thing as truth”.



Preach I like schooled me on identifying irrational statements such as the atheist statment above.



He told us to ask the atheist this, “if there is no such thing as truth, then is what you just said the truth?”

🤣😂🤣😎

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Here are some reasons why Christian’s fail to obey 1 Corinthians 1:10
Posted : 24 Feb, 2024 03:43 PM

Sorry, shoulda been, “Preacher I liked…”

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Here are some reasons why Christian’s fail to obey 1 Corinthians 1:10
Posted : 24 Feb, 2024 07:24 PM

Acts 15:37-40

37 Barnabas wanted to take John, also called Mark, with them, 38 but Paul did not think it wise to take him, because he had deserted them in Pamphylia and had not continued with them in the work. 39 They had such a sharp disagreement that they parted company. Barnabas took Mark and sailed for Cyprus, 40 but Paul chose Silas and left, commended by the believers to the grace of the Lord.

1 Corinthians 11: 19

No doubt there have to be differences among you to show which of you have God’s approval.

Galatians 2:11-12

When Cephas came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he stood condemned. 12 For before certain men came from James, he used to eat with the Gentiles. But when they arrived, he began to draw back and separate himself from the Gentiles because he was afraid of those who belonged to the circumcision group.

There have always been divisions. There will always be divisions.

The Old Testament, there was Korah's rebellion.

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Here are some reasons why Christian’s fail to obey 1 Corinthians 1:10
Posted : 24 Feb, 2024 10:32 PM

You’re right W&T, but there should not be divisions among true believers. But because we sin, some divisions will occur



In Acts 15:37-40, Paul, Barnabas and Mark’s relationship actually deepened as we read in future accounts. No disagreement remained. But clearly Paul, who was commissioned as an apostle obviously had greater authority intrusted to him and was right to question Mark’s commitment. Barnabas should have recognized Paul’s concern.

1 Corinthians 11: 19 makes the distinction between those without God’s approval and those who have it. Differences must result when an erring person is challenged and exposed.

Galatians 2:11-12 Peter is clearly in the wrong and needed to be confronted by Paul because Peter’s irresponsible example was seriously leading others in the wrong direction, even Barnabas!

Korah was nothing but a rebel against Moses and a rebel against God who appointed Moses.



You’re right, “There have always been divisions. There will always be divisions.” But there must always be those who obey God rather than men and who are willing to confront sin and false teaching from a brother or from a false brother.

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Posted : 25 Feb, 2024 07:37 PM

Speaking of irrational statements,

I had one guy on here who kept telling me and other posters to stop reading the works of human writers or listening to them. He said we should read only the Bible.

But there is a serious logical problem with his statement.

Since his statement about not reading the works of man was written and said by him—and he’s a man, then we should not listen to him either because he’s a man ‼️‼️

Talk about a line of contradictory reasoning that 👉refutes itself👈‼️‼️‼️



Check out the “law of no contradiction” in your logic text

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Posted : 25 Feb, 2024 07:39 PM

Speaking of irrational statements,

I had one guy on here who kept telling me and other posters to stop reading the works of human writers or listening to them. He said we should read only the Bible.

But there is a serious logical problem with his statement.

Since his statement about not reading the works of man was written and said by him—and he’s a man, then we should not listen to him either because he’s a man ‼️‼️

Talk about a line of contradictory reasoning that 👉refutes itself👈‼️‼️‼️



Check out the “law of no contradiction” in your logic text

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Here are some reasons why Christian’s fail to obey 1 Corinthians 1:10
Posted : 25 Feb, 2024 07:43 PM

Law of Non-Contradiction, rather. Sometimes also referred to as the Law of Contradiction.

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Posted : 25 Feb, 2024 08:39 PM

A line of contradictory reasoning, some Buddhists want to want nothing and to reach a state of wanting nothing.

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