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LittleDavid

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BIBILICAL CREATION in 6 literal 24 hour days
Posted : 12 Apr, 2018 09:06 PM

"Prophetic"7744

Once again you're eager to accept Atheistic views concerning the earth's origin when you speak about the "old earth".



Apparently you've uncritically adopted the "old earth" concept from other compromising theologians. You're not alone in rejecting the Genesis Revelation, many theologians have exchanged Holy Spirit Inspiration for evolutionary speculation. Although some of them insist they reject evolution they accept it's premises such as the "old earth" (millions years old).



Richard, I hope you resource qualified scientists and resist speculative philosophies like uniformitarianism in your quest for truth. Many scientists do not recognize old earth uniformitarian philosophy because of its obvious conflict with the facts of science.



As for the dinosaurs, some of them are mentioned in the book of Job and possibly in Genesis.



As for the Grand Canyon, it's contours and geology can be explained by the worldwide destructive force of floodwaters beneath Noah's Ark.

LittleDavid

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BIBILICAL CREATION in 6 literal 24 hour days
Posted : 12 Apr, 2018 08:35 PM

Prophetic 7744, I find it curious you do not accept easter because of its cultistic history, yet you accept atheistic (uniformitarian philosophy) for the earths origin. You're obviously not being consistent. As for Wikipedia definitions, your understanding is only as good as your sources. You may not be aware that Wikipedia has been criticized for its lack of precision and it's bias.



You're also unaware of carbon 14 limitations. You're right, I'm not an expert on carbon 14 dating methods, I just know enough to refer to qualified unbiased scientific sources who are unfettered by philosophic prejudices.



Once again, your errors and misunderstandings continue to mount. For example, I did not indicate light was created on any other day than day one. If you want to insist I said otherwise, perhaps you would quote me.

LittleDavid

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BIBILICAL CREATION in 6 literal 24 hour days
Posted : 12 Apr, 2018 02:06 PM

prophetic 7744, you owe it to yourself to read Genesis one for yourself, perhaps for the first time. Possibly you're being influenced by bad information from secular humanist articles and/or from theologians who agree with them.

You're welcome to read Genesis 1 before l complete my critique. This exercise alone should correct your faulty sun,moon and star chronology. Be especially sure to read about days 1 and 4 specifically. This should help

LittleDavid

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BIBILICAL CREATION in 6 literal 24 hour days
Posted : 12 Apr, 2018 01:52 PM

prophetic7744, thank you for your response. After reviewing your reply, i observed a few scientific and Bible references you cited. I wish to be respectful and hope my choice of words indicate that. I expect to share these with you in the same numerical order as you shared them from your text.

ERROR 1) God created light on day one but did not create the sun, moon and stars until day four.

ERROR 2) Your assertion the "...NEW EARTH..." "...is not mentioned in the 6 day creation..." is not only incoherent but exegetically unsound as well.

ERROR 3) Carbon dating is not scientifically accurate past 10,000 years and therefore cannot varifiy an earlier age for the Neanderthal. Neanderthals are not 25,000 years old, as you insist. They are no more than a few thousand years old and lived recently. Additionally, they are now regarded anatomically consistent with modern man.

ERROR 4) Carbon dating does not prove the Geand Canyon is 200,000 years old and carbon dating does not prove dinosaurs lived 100,000 years ago.



You asserted quite a few errors in the very small space of a single text. It would be better for me to address the rest in several continuous texts.

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BIBILICAL CREATION in 6 literal 24 hour days
Posted : 7 Apr, 2018 08:22 PM

I've been longing for the day when theologians will finally acknowledge the literal 6 day creation as recorded in Genesis chapter one. Although the author of Genesis one intended the account to be interpreted literally, many theologians hesitate to accept a literal interpretation. They insist the findings of "science" conflict with a literal interpretation of Genesis chapter one. But no theologian has ever referenced any such "scientific evidence" but they have referenced uniformitarian philosophy that uniformitarian scientists embrace. It would seem these theologians have inadvertently allowed establishment philosophers to interpret the Genesis record under the pretense of science! Theologians are supposed to be the gatekeepers of theological purity but obviously some of them have let us down--in the very first chapter of the Bible!

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GUESS WHAT???...
Posted : 6 Apr, 2018 10:33 PM

Ella, sorry I took so long. But I can respond to your post with a true story about my favorite woman teacher, Elisabeth Elliot, who illustrates the appropriate application of all the Scripture you mentioned except for the one from Acts. Elisabeth and her husband were missionaries to the Auca Indians who eventually murdered her husband. Elisabeth decided to return to the Aucas and tell them about Jesus and the forgiveness of sin. Yes, she taught the people, including the men, about her forgiveness of them for killing her husband, thus illustrating the forgiveness of Jesus. So of course, she was acting in perfect accord with 1Cor11:5 scripture. But please note the context of 1Cor11:5 is different from the context of 1Cor14 and the context from Timothy, both of which address the body (the Church coming together) in corporate worship.

Ok, as time passed, Elisabeth'a work among the Aucas bore fruit. Many believed her message and were brought to repentance. They also learned about becoming members of Christ's body, his universal church. After learning about the order of the church as declared by Paul, they immediately wanted Elisabeth to be their overseer, but Elisabeth explained the Scripture concerning male leadership. So she declined their request, saying that she is not qualified to lead the church. The Aucas then decided which of their men more closely met Paul's qualifications.

I realize some people, at this point, some men and women may object to what I've written here, but they will find themselves arguing with God, not me. I just pass along God's truth found in his word, I don't create God's truth

LittleDavid

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Do you gathering for worship & praise with other believers
Posted : 6 Apr, 2018 08:42 PM

Prophetic, the passages from Timothy and Corthinans, of which you are wont quote, clearly speak to formal gatherings of the body (the church) and to its male leadership. These men must meet the qualifications Paul listed in his letter to Timothy. Very few men qualify for these positions of leadership. Leadership of Christ's body, the church, is serious bussiness, this is why any-o-man can not simply assert himself into leadership. But Paul's instructions do not speak to women's conduct outside those meetings, Women are not forbidden to tell men things. For example, this CDFF forum does not represent the church. CDFF is not a formal body gathering, as discussed by Paul in Timothy and in Corinthians. Women, therefore, have many opportunities to discuss God's Word even with men; but---they must remain silent regarding the leadership and the teaching of Christ's body, his church, whenever it formally comes together as in its regular corporate worship services

LittleDavid

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Posted : 31 Mar, 2018 08:48 AM

Richard why do you use such lengthy cut and paste responses. Do you have nothing to say?????

LittleDavid

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GUESS WHAT???...
Posted : 31 Mar, 2018 01:01 AM

Prophetic, I may have jumped the gun on you regarding Ella's posts. At first sight, I thought Ella was a gifted teacher who respected Biblical instructions governing worship when believers came together per Paul's instructions. At this point I'm unsure about her convictions. I'm trying chat with her about that now. I don't know, at this point who is right, you or her. But I do apologize for judging you before fully hearing the matter. Very short sighted of me. Again very sorry

LittleDavid

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GUESS WHAT???...
Posted : 31 Mar, 2018 12:51 AM

Ella, when I began reading your posts I kinda rejoiced at what you wrote. You appeared to be a woman who held to all the teaching of scripture. Unless I'm mistaken, you believe women should be pastors over men in church contrary to Paul's instruction?? Is this so?

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