(Heb 11:7) By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.
Noah and house through faith was saved to righteousness.
righteousness=Jesus Christ (Jer 23:6) .....and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.
And was baptized with water
Water baptism=Flood 1Pe 3:20 ... wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water. 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us ......
If so there must be more reference to people in the Old Testament being saved by faith in Jesus Christ and water baptized right up to baptism by the Holy Ghost.(Mar 1:8) I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.
It seems Jesus Christ was just as prevalent in the Old Testament as he is in the New Testament.
PJ, I love the parable but what I was asking for Biblical reference to was this.
You said �But one must believe upon him to accept his election.�
Im pretty sure Im with ya here but in order to use this (elect so saved or saved so elect) one would need Biblical reference to it, Im not so sure that the sower parable explains it to well to use it for that.
And Margo, can you give reference to consider (elect so saved and saved so elect) is the same thing?
(1Pe 2:24) Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.
We are dead to sin and shouldn�t sin, but do, but because we are dead to sin we shouldn�t sweat the sin so much because if we do then we are just living in guilt and not glorifying God, and so trying not to sin to hard that it becomes a work?
(1Th 1:3) Remembering without ceasing your work of faith, and labour of love, and patience of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ, in the sight of God and our Father;
Very amusing Two, Both offered their horses free will to leave the pasture, Im thinking Hobbs gate was open for the horses to walk out and Calvins gate was closed and the horses needed to jump the gate to get out?
But I think its more like them darn horses ate all the apples off the trees and were all thrown out. hehe
